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#1 jrally

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Posted 20 August 2005 - 13:47

I would like to know if someone knows these results concening the German Rally Championship in the early seventies :

1970 - Rallye Trifels (from 6th to 10th)
1970 - Rallye Hugenotten (2-10)
1971 - Rallye Nordland (2-10)
1971 - Rallye Hessen (7-10)
1972 - Rallye Harze-Winter-Fahrt (8-10)
1972 - Rallye Bavaria (6-10)
1972 - Rallye Hugenotten (6-10)
1973 - Rallye Hugenotten (6-10)
1973 - Rallye Hubertus (6-10)

Thanks in advance
jrally

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#2 gdecarli

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Posted 20 August 2005 - 15:07

I couldn't any info on Autosprint (Italian magazine)

Ciao,
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#3 jrally

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Posted 20 August 2005 - 23:52

Thanks Guido !

Concerning Italian Rallyes :
Do You know the results (top-10) of the following rallyes :

1970-999 minuti (24-25/4)
1970-4 Regioni (03-05/6)
1970-Alpe della Luna (18-19/7)
1970-Alpi Orientali (26-27/7)

Thanks
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Posted 21 August 2005 - 00:32

Thanks Guido !

Concerning Italian Rallyes :
Do You know the results (top-10) of the following rallyes :

1970-999 minuti (24-25/4)
1970-4 Regioni (03-05/6)
1970-Alpe della Luna (18-19/7)
1970-Alpi Orientali (26-27/7)

Thanks
jrally

#5 jrally

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Posted 21 August 2005 - 15:00

It hasn't been upgrade, the answer ! :

#6 Reyna

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Posted 21 August 2005 - 20:40

Just found the 999 minuti rallye.

here:

http://foro-gratis.l...tohistoria.html

#7 gdecarli

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Posted 21 August 2005 - 21:16

No, I'm sorry your are not lucky: I haven't any Autosprint on those dates.
You can find a complete list of my collection on my website.
On Autosprint #29/1970 there is the calendar of next week races (July 25h and 26th) but no evidence of Rally Alpi Orientali.

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Posted 22 August 2005 - 18:42

Originally posted by jrally
I would like to know if someone knows these results concening the German Rally Championship in the early seventies :

1970 - Rallye Trifels (from 6th to 10th)
1970 - Rallye Hugenotten (2-10)
1971 - Rallye Nordland (2-10)
1971 - Rallye Hessen (7-10)
1972 - Rallye Harze-Winter-Fahrt (8-10)
1972 - Rallye Bavaria (6-10)
1972 - Rallye Hugenotten (6-10)
1973 - Rallye Hugenotten (6-10)
1973 - Rallye Hubertus (6-10)

Thanks in advance
jrally


Nordland Rallye 1971
After the rallye there seems to have been a lot of confusion over the final result. These provisional results were given in “sport auto” 6/1971 and should have been confirmed in the next issue – alas, I couldn’t find any confirmation ... So: handle with care:

1. Warmbold / Mehmel (BMW 2002 TI)
2. Hainbach / Biebinger (Opel Kadett)
3. Röhrl / Maracek (Ford Capri 2600 GT)
4. Zweibäumer / Dörfler (BMW 1600/2)
5. Huthwelker / Prottung (NSU TT)
6. Spiro / Bröns (BMW 2002 TI)
7. Dr. Oehm / Dötenbier (Opel Kadett 1900)
8. Denker / Trews (?)
9. Syberg / Syberg (DK, Opel Kadett 1900)
10. Krüger / Oving (?)

#9 eukie

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Posted 22 August 2005 - 18:53

Originally posted by jrally
I would like to know if someone knows these results concening the German Rally Championship in the early seventies :

1970 - Rallye Trifels (from 6th to 10th)
1970 - Rallye Hugenotten (2-10)
1971 - Rallye Nordland (2-10)
1971 - Rallye Hessen (7-10)
1972 - Rallye Harze-Winter-Fahrt (8-10)
1972 - Rallye Bavaria (6-10)
1972 - Rallye Hugenotten (6-10)
1973 - Rallye Hugenotten (6-10)
1973 - Rallye Hubertus (6-10)

Thanks in advance
jrally


Hessen Rallye 1971
Again some confusion after the rallye ... This is the result table publ. in “rallye racing” 7/1971 (with some add. from “sport auto” 7/1971)
1. Achim Warmbold / Hans-Christoph Mehmel (BMW 2002 TI) 5759,2
2. Walter Röhrl / Herbert Maracek (Ford Capri RS 2600) 5785,6
3. Reinhard Hainbach / Wulf Biebinger (Opel Kadett) 5897,0
4. Klaus Miersch / Hasso Streger (Opel Commodore) 5963,2
5. Jean Ragnotti / René Thimonier (F, Opel Kadett) 5963,9
6. Sandro Munari / Mario Manucci (I, Lancia HF) 5980,3
7. Manfred Walch / Johannes Rothfuß (Porsche 911 S) 6087,1
8. Rainer Zweibäumer / Joachim Dörfler (BMW 1602) 6114,3
9. Friedhelm Gaupp / Ulrich Fuchs (Opel Kadett) 6146,8
10. Gerd Behret / Horst Blesinger (Porsche 911 S) 6177,8
11. Klaus-Joachim Kleint / Jochen Berger (Ford Capri) 6182,5

#10 eukie

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Posted 22 August 2005 - 19:29

Results for 1972 taken from "sport auto":

Harz-Winterfahrt 1972
8. Riemer / Elges (BMW 2002)
9. Dr. Eymann / Schons (BMW 2002 TI)
10. Knop / Rausch (BMW 2002)

Rallye Bavaria 1972
6. Jansen / Maier (Ford Capri)
7. Selzer / Bierlich (Ford Escort)
8. Soltwedel / Herget (Ford Escort)
9. Tita / Zech (BMW 2002)
10. Blocker / Voss (Opel Ascona)

Hugenotten-Rallye 1972
6. Moosmaier / Wiegand (Porsche 911 S)
7. Hauck / Disson (Porsche 911 S)
8. Selzer / Bierlich (Ford Escort)
9. Fricke / Hartisch (Opel Ascona)
10. Rausch / Fischer (BMW 2002)

#11 eukie

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Posted 22 August 2005 - 19:43

Hugenotten-Rallye 1973 (rallye racing 11/1973)
6. Dehnelt / Carle (Porsche Carrera)
7. Rausch / Weimer (BMW 1602)
8. Smolej / Druba (BMW 2002)
9. Miersch / Wisniewski (Opel GT)
10. Angel / Kowalski (Porsche 911 S)

Rallye Hubertus 1973 (provisonal results - rallye racing 11/1973)
6. Miersch / Wisniewski (Opel GT)
7. Rausch / Weimer (BMW 1602)
8. Fellbaum / Pfister (BMW 2002)
whereas „sport auto“ (published one month later) has Rausch / Weimer as 6th :confused:

#12 jrally

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Posted 22 August 2005 - 23:41

Thank You very much for all the help, eukie !

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Posted 22 August 2005 - 23:59

So, resume from German Rallyes just misses :


1970 - Rallye Trifels (from 6th to 10th)
1970 - Rallye Hugenotten (2-10)
1973 - Rallye Hubertus (9-10)

someone could help ?

Thanks in advance
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#14 jrally

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 16:41

Does someone knows (if possible with complete names) the following top-10 results :

Sachs Baltic 72 and 74
Pneumant/DDR 70 and 71
Janner 78

Thanks
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Posted 27 August 2005 - 23:59

Jänner Rally 1978

(from Autosprint 3/1978 page 35)

Bad Zell (Austria), January 13-15, 1978

Valid For European Rally Championship (Coef. 1) and Austrian Rally Championship
  • Wolfgang Sulc - Fritz Weixelbraun (Volkswagen 1302)
  • Fischer - Weintirl (Datsun 120)
  • Wittman - Nestinger (Opel Kadett)
I have no more info.

Ciao,
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#16 jrally

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Posted 28 August 2005 - 09:56

Thanks, Guido !

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Posted 30 August 2005 - 13:03

Could someone give a help here, please ?

Thanks
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#18 eukie

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Posted 30 August 2005 - 13:11

Jänner Rallye 1978

1. Wolfgang Sulc / Weixelbaum (A, VW 1302S) 12461 pts.
2. Georg Fischer / Weinzierl (A, Datsun Sunny) 12588
3. Franz Wittmann / Nestinger (A, Opel Kadett GT/E) 12631
4. Stigler / Stigler (A, VW Golf GTI) 13000
5. Albrecht / Rochet (A, Ford Escort RS2000) 13261
6. Jürgen Bertl / Hesse (D, VW Golf GTI) 13360
7. Attila Ferjancz / Tandari (H, Renault 17 Gordini) 13549
8. Schneider / Leismüller (A, Ford Escort RS2000) 13662
9. Geringer / Winter (A, Ford Escort RS2000) 13671
10. Osterer / Frais (A, Opel Kadett GT/E) 13706
r. Peter Mattig / ? (D, Opel Kadett GT/E)
r. Josef Haider / ? (A, ?)

source: Motorsport aktuell 4/1978 + rallye racing 3/1978

#19 jrally

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Posted 30 August 2005 - 13:18

Thanks eukie,

I was interested in the full names of the following crews :

5. Albrecht / Rochet (A, Ford Escort RS2000) 13261
8. Schneider / Leismüller (A, Ford Escort RS2000) 13662

do You know them ?

Thanks
regards
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#20 eukie

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Posted 30 August 2005 - 13:28

Sachs Rallye Baltic 1972

1. Walter Röhrl / Jochen Berger (D, Ford Capri) 7593 pts.
2. Sobieslav Zasada / Komorowski (PL, Porsche 911 S) 7632
3. Kristensen / Toudal (DK, BMW 2002 Tii) 8150
4. Olsen / Richardt (DK, Volvo 142 GL) 8345
5. Christensen / Moller (Toyota Corolla) 8377
6. John Haugland / Antonsen (N, Skoda 120 S) 8378
7. Wilhelmsson / Johansson (Volvo 142) 8430
8. Tangeland / Fadum (BMW 1600 Ti) 8442
9. Sorensen / Petersen (BMW 2002) 8489
10. Johannes Schnoor / Schwartz (D, BMW 1602) 8496
r. Klaus Miersch (D, Opel Ascona)
?. Nielsen / Iversen (DK, Volvo 142)
?. Glad / Glad (DK, Austin Clubman GT)
?. Carlsson / Jönsson (S, Opel Ascona 1.9 SR)

source: sport auto 11/1972

#21 eukie

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Posted 30 August 2005 - 13:33

Originally posted by jrally
Thanks eukie,

I was interested in the full names of the following crews :

5. Albrecht / Rochet (A, Ford Escort RS2000) 13261
8. Schneider / Leismüller (A, Ford Escort RS2000) 13662

do You know them ?

Thanks
regards
jrally


No, I'm sorry. :(

#22 eukie

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Posted 30 August 2005 - 14:03

Rallye DDR 1970 (March 18-21)

1. Hommel / Bork (DDR, Wartburg) 25667 pts
2. Smorawinski / Zembrzuski (PL, BMW 2002) 29387
3. Callesjöl / Olsson (S, Ford Capri) 45170
4. Strelow / Malsch (Wartburg) 63539
5. Asmus / Piehler (Trabant) 65116
6. Nowicki / Komorowski (PL, Renault Gordini R8) 87581
7. Nielsen / Lind-Isaaksen (BMW 2002) 89932
8. Ullmann / Lange (Trabant) 97097
9. Kramer / Kramer (Trabant) 138578
10. Ehrlich / Schöne (Wartburg) 172040
11. Suhr / Hiddel (Wartburg) 177881
r. Komornicki / Mystkowski (PL, Alpine Ranault)
r. Karlsson / Björkström (S, Opel Kadett)
r. Lannzjö / Sundin (S, Opel Kadett)
r. Skogstad / Paulsen (BMW 2002)

113 Starters, 11 Finishers
source: rallye racing 5/1970


Pneumant Rallye DDR 1971 (March 17-21)

1. Zasada / Wedrychowski (BMW 2002 TI) 3546 pts
2. Gries / Würfel (Wartburg) 7700
3. Bohne / Wellmann (BMW 2002 TI) 9025
4. Spiro / Brons (BMW 2002 TI) 9910
5. Mucha / Jaworowicz (Fiat 125 P) 10680
6. Culmbacher / Ernst (Wartburg) 11481
7. Pedersen / Kristensen (Triumph Mk1)
8. Britth / Repling (Opel Kadett)
9. Hommel / Bork (Wartburg)
10. Jahnke / Wittig (Ford Escort)

source: sport auto 5/1971 + rallye racing 5/1971


Int. ADAC Sachs Rallye Baltic 1974 (Aug28-Sep1)

1. Reinhard Hainbach / Gerd Wisniewski (D, Ford Capri) 12602 pts
2. Jensen / Eisenberg (DK, Toyota Corolla) 12716
3. Kristensen / Toudal (DK, BMW 2002 tii) 12739
4. Berth / Winther Nielsen (DK, BMW 2002 tii) 12801
5. Glad / Glad (DK, Opel Commodore) 12829
6. Christensen / Sidorenco (DK, Toyota Celica) 12936
7. Möller / Jensen (BMW 2002 tii) 13143
8. Johannes Schnoor / Blöcher (D, BMW 1602) 13152
9. Bindner / Andreasen (Opel Ascona 1.9 SR) 13262
10. Britth / Sager (Fiat 124 ST) 13383
r. John Haugland / Grild Anstonsen (N, Skoda)
? Simek / Ladecky (Skoda)
? Soukup / Zapadlo (Skoda)
? Jelinek / Kvaizar (Skoda)

source: rallye racing 10/1974

#23 jrally

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Posted 30 August 2005 - 15:17

Once more, Thanks a lot, eukie !

but once more, some missing names :


Rallye DDR 1970 (March 18-21)
3. Callesljö / Olsson (S, Ford Capri) 45170
9. Kramer / Kramer (Trabant) 138578
10. Ehrlich / Schöne (Wartburg) 172040


Pneumant Rallye DDR 1971 (March 17-21)
7. Pedersen / Kristensen (Triumph Mk1)


Sachs Rallye Baltic 1972
10. Johannes Schnoor / ??? Schwartz (D, BMW 1602) 8496

Int. ADAC Sachs Rallye Baltic 1974 (Aug28-Sep1)
2. Jensen / Eisenberg (DK, Toyota Corolla) 12716
7. Möller / Jensen (BMW 2002 tii) 13143

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#24 jrally

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Posted 31 August 2005 - 23:07

And about the Jamt Rally in 1974 ?
Is it possible to get one classification with complete names ?

Thanks in advance
jrally

#25 Rainer Nyberg

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Posted 11 September 2005 - 17:40

Some added info from eukie's results. (source: RALLYNYTT Feb/1978)

Jänner Rallye 1978

1. Wolfgang Sulc / Weixelbaum (A, VW 1302S, Gr.2 ) 12461 pts.
2. Georg Fischer / Weinzierl (A, Datsun Sunny, Gr.2 ) 12588 (12589)
3. Franz Wittmann / Nestinger (A, Opel Kadett GT/E, Gr.2 ) 12631
4. Andreas Stigler / Stigler (A, VW Golf GTI, Gr.1 ) 13000
5. Alois Albrecht / Rochet (A, Ford Escort RS2000, Gr.1 ) 13261
6. Jürgen Bertl / Hesse (D, VW Golf GTI, Gr.1 ) 13360
7. Attila Ferjancz / Tandari (H, Renault 17 Gordini, Gr.2 ) 13549
8. Wolfgang Schneider / Leismüller (A, Ford Escort RS2000, Gr.1 ) 13662
9. Willi Geringer / Winter (A, Ford Escort RS2000, Gr.1 ) 13671
10. Walter Osterer / Frais (A, Opel Kadett GT/E, Gr.2 ) 13706
DNF Peter Mattig / ? (D, Opel Kadett GT/E, Gr.2 ) head gasket
DNF Josef Haider / ? (A, ? Opel Kadett GT/E, Gr.2 ) accident
DNF Herbert Grünsteidl / ? (A, Lada 1500S, Gr2) accident

51 starters. 21 finishers. Co-efficient 1.

#26 Rainer Nyberg

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Posted 11 September 2005 - 18:03

Originally posted by jrally
And about the Jamt Rally in 1974 ?




JÄMT-RALLYT 1974

14-16 june





1)  Per Eklund			 SWE	 Saab 96 V4	  Gr.2   15,565

2)  Stig Blomqvist		 SWE	 Saab 96 V4	  Gr.2   15,666

3)  Bengt Nilsson		  SWE	 Opel Ascona	 Gr.2   15,969

4)  Erik Johansson		 SWE	 Opel Ascona	 Gr.2   16,235 

5)  Per Inge Walfridsson   SWE	 Volvo 142	   Gr.2   16,296

6)  Lasse Jansson		  SWE	 Saab 99 EMS	 Gr.1   16,913

7)  Kurt Malmgren		  SWE	 Saab 96 V4	  Gr.2   17,009

8)  Ingemar Frohm		  SWE	 Opel Ascona	 Gr.2   17,071

9)  Karl-Gunnar Hillberg   SWE	 Opel Ascona	 Gr.1   17,215

10) Håkan Nilsson		  SWE	 Saab 96 V4	  Gr.2   17,419

11) Lars Erik Walfridsson  SWE	 Volvo 142	   Gr.2   17,492

12) Bengt Ottosson		 SWE	 Datsun 160J SSS Gr.1   17,571

13) Kjell Granquist		SWE	 Volvo 142	   Gr.2   17.604

14) Göran Lagerström	   SWE	 BMW 2002		Gr.2   17,618

15) Valter Jensen		  NOR	 BMW 2002Tii	 Gr.1   17,678

16) Ragnar Guhlenlus	   SWE	 Opel Ascona	 Gr.1   17,685

17) Sven Paulson		   SWE	 Opel Ascona	 Gr.1   17,707

18) Torleif Landin		 SWE	 Opel Ascona	 Gr.1   17,726

19) Bernt-Inge Steffansson SWE	 Volvo 142 GL	Gr.1   17,778

20) Bertil Jerrebo		 SWE	 Volvo 142	   Gr.2   17,881


#27 jrally

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Posted 12 September 2005 - 00:22

Once more, thanks Mr. Nyberg !

just to ask if You know the complete names of the following co-drivers :

Kurt Malmgren-K.Ingelsson (I think it's Klas)
Ingemar Frohm-A.Skarstrom
Karl Gunnar Hillberg-R.O.Palsson
Hakan Nilsson-A.Bergqvist

thanks in advance
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Posted 29 September 2005 - 13:01

South Swedish Rally

1984 - does anyone knows the complete names of winners of group N, Carlsson and Lindberg ?
1989 - does anyone knows the complete names of winners of group N, Angerd and Sturedahl ?

1994 - does anyone knows in what overall position had finnished the F2 category winner, Magnus Gustavsson ?

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#29 jrally

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Posted 12 October 2005 - 13:04

Rallyes in Austria :

Does anyone knows :
the results of ARBO rally in Austria of 78,80 and 82 (with groups) ?
the results of Janner Rally of 77,78,80 and 81 (with groups) ?
the results of OEASC Rally of 74,78,79 and 80 (with groups) ?
the results of Semperit Rally of 70,71,72 and 73 (with groups) ?
the results of 1000 minuten Rally of 70,71 and 72 (with groups) ?

Thanks in advance
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Posted 12 October 2005 - 19:23

Originally posted by jrally
Rallyes in Austria :

Does anyone knows :
the results of ARBO rally in Austria of 78,80 and 82 (with groups) ?
the results of Janner Rally of 77,78,80 and 81 (with groups) ?
the results of OEASC Rally of 74,78,79 and 80 (with groups) ?
the results of Semperit Rally of 70,71,72 and 73 (with groups) ?
the results of 1000 minuten Rally of 70,71 and 72 (with groups) ?

Thanks in advance
Regards
jrally


Janner 11-13 January 1980
1° F. Wittmann/ K. Nestinger Audi 80 GLE 3 h 20 ' 44 "
2° S. Haider/ Pattermann Opel Ascona + 1 ' 22 "
3° S. Engseth/ R. Stohl Lada 1500 + 5 ' 09 "
4° W. Wiedner/Zehetner Fiat 131 Abarth + 5 ' 57 "
5° G. Fischer/ Weinziel Sunbeam Talbot Ti + 10 ' 14 "
6° Stiegler/ Lukarsh Volkswagen Gof GTi + 13 ' 44 "
7° Matting/ Gumpert Opel Ascona + 16 ' 16 "
8° Bittner/ Borutka Opel Kadett GTE + 18 ' 14 "
9° Heel/ Raft Ford Escort + 18 ' 31 "
10° Leitner/Stuerlinger Volkswagen 1302 + 26 ' 46 "

Arboe 27-28 September 1980
1° H. Demuth/Fischer Opel Ascona 4 h 10 ' 23 "
2° "Didi" / Paul Fiat 131 Abarth + 2 "
3° F. Wittmann/K. Nestinger Audi 80 GLE + 4 ' 41 "
4° A. Ferjancz/Tandari Renault 5 Alpine + 8 ' 32 "
5° Essig/Oberortner Opel Kadett + 20 ' 14 "
6° Karasek/Decilia Opel Kadett + 20 ' 18 "
7° Kalnay/Hinterleitner Ford Escort + 22 ' 29 "
8° Unterbuchberger/Zeilberger Opel Ascona + 24 ' 10 "
9° Tratter/ Tratter Opel Kadett + 28 ' 58 "
10° Trajbold/ Trajbold Skoda 130 RS + 30 ' 03 "

Jorge do you help me for this old rallyes :
Wiesbaden 1952 - 1955 - 1957 - 1958

Thanks in advance
Luca

#31 jrally

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 12:51

Could someone help me with those results of Italian Rally Championship, please ?

1970
Alpi Orientali (28-29/6)
Alpe della Luna (17-19/9)

1971
999 Minutos (17-18/4)
Adriatico (15-16/5)
Alpi Orientali (26-27/6)
Medio Adriatico (25-26/9)

1974
4 Regioni (29-31/5)
Alpi Orientali (29-30/6)
Liburna (30-01/12)

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#32 gdecarli

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 20:12

Originally posted by jrally
1971
999 Minutos (17-18/4)
Adriatico (15-16/5)

1974
4 Regioni (29-31/5)
Alpi Orientali (29-30/6)
Liburna (30-01/12)

Yes, me! Only the ones listed here. I write you an e-mail.

Ciao,
Guido

#33 jrally

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 21:39

Thanks a lot, Guido !

Regards
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#34 Rob Ryder

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Posted 22 October 2005 - 08:22

Not results, but can anyone give me the actual dates for the following rallies?
Thanks in advance
Rob

Mintex Rally (GB) 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972 & 1973
Hackle Rally (GB) 1974 & 1975
Four Regions Rally (Ita) 1972
Rally di Siclia 1972 & 1976
Zlatni Piassatzi (Bul) 1986 & 1987
Rally Australia 1988

#35 jrally

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Posted 22 October 2005 - 09:26

Hello, Mr. Rob,

Here some dates :

1972 Mintex Rally (GB) - 26-27/02
1973 Mintex Rally (GB) - 23-24/02
1972 Four Regions Rally (Ita) - 01-04/06
1972 Rally di Sicilia 03-05/03
1976 Rally di Sicilia 27-28/03
1986 Zlatni Piassatzi (Bul) 10-11/05
1987 Zlatni Piassatzi (Bul) 09-10/05
1988 Rally Australia 04-06/11

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#36 Rob Ryder

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Posted 22 October 2005 - 10:29

Brilliant jrally, Thanks. Only 6 rallies remaining :)

#37 jrally

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Posted 22 October 2005 - 11:20

Hackle 1974 was to be taken place in April 6 but was postponed to September 7. He was held on that date .

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Posted 22 October 2005 - 11:33

Hackle 1975 was in 22 March !

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Posted 22 October 2005 - 11:43

Mr. Ryder !

Do you know the official name of Mintex Rally in 70 and 71 ?

Was it the Seven Dales Rally ?

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#40 Rob Ryder

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Posted 22 October 2005 - 12:43

Originally posted by jrally
Mr. Ryder !
Do you know the official name of Mintex Rally in 70 and 71 ?
Was it the Seven Dales Rally ?
Regards
jrally


Mr. Ryder ? :eek: You do mean Rob? ;)

Thanks for the clue JRally! I did not connect the Seven Dales with Mintex.

I have checked the fixture lists in Motor Sport magazines...
??-??/?/1969 not listed
21-22/2/1970 Seven Dales Forest Rally (Leeds, Yorkshire)
??-??/?/1971 not listed
26-27/2/1972 Mintex Seven Dales Rally (Selby, Yorkshire)
23-24/2/1973 Mintex Dales Rally (Selby, Yorkshire)
21-22/2/1974 Mintex Dales Rally (Selby, Yorkshire)

Maybe it is safe to assume the same dates for 1969 and 1971?
22-23/2/1969 ??
27-28/2/1971 ??

Motor Sport magazine did not give many British rally results, but did list the Britsh/International rally dates.
If I can help you just let me know.
Rob

#41 jrally

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Posted 22 October 2005 - 13:32

Yes, I presume so... that the Mintex was the Seven Dales Rally !

But not 100% sure ...
If someone has other opinion ...

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#42 RS2000

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Posted 22 October 2005 - 15:58

Seven Dales Rally was 22/23 February 1969. Third round of Motoring News rally championship. Ran on airfield stages and road selectives. One forest stage only? - because heavy snow prevented access to others.
It did become the Mintex.

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Posted 22 October 2005 - 21:55

Thank you, RS2000 !
A mistery solved ...

Do You know what rallyes made part of the RAC British Championship in 1970 ?

Thanks in advance
Regards
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#44 eukie

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Posted 26 October 2005 - 08:47

Originally posted by jrally
Rallyes in Austria :

Does anyone knows :
the results of ARBO rally in Austria of 78,80 and 82 (with groups) ?
the results of Janner Rally of 77,78,80 and 81 (with groups) ?
the results of OEASC Rally of 74,78,79 and 80 (with groups) ?
the results of Semperit Rally of 70,71,72 and 73 (with groups) ?
the results of 1000 minuten Rally of 70,71 and 72 (with groups) ?

Thanks in advance
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jrally


Still required?

Semperit Rallye 1970
May 28-30
1. Wilfried Gass / Frey (Porsche) 4126,5
2. Helle Bein / Mehmel (BMW 2002) 4250,6
3. Schindler / Hruschka (Porsche 914/6) 4254,4
4. Neger / Sternecker (BMW 2002)
5. Zelenka / Zelenka (Ford Escort)
6. Utz / Brust (BMW 2002)
7. Neukom / Hopf (BMW 2002)
8. Sergio Barbasio / Manucci (Lancia Fulvia)
9. Achim Warmbold / Biebinger (Opel Kadett)
10. Lux / Siebert (VW 1500)
r Gunther Janger / Walter Wessiak (Porsche)
? Komornicki / Krupa (Alpine)
? Nowicki / Komorowski (Gordini)
Serienwagen TW:
1. Warmbold 2. Dietmayer / Quidenus (BMW 2002) 3. Bohrn / Gubier (Opel Kadett)
Spezial TW:
1. Bein 2. Neger 3. Zelenka
Serienwagen GT:
1. Müller / Säckl (VW Porsche 914)
Spezial GT:
1. Gass 2. Schindler 3. Barbasio


Semperit Rallye 1971
June 3-5
1. Sandro Munari / Manucci (Lancia Fulvia) 6062 pts.
2. Achim Warmbold / Dörfler (BMW 2002) 6194
3. Rainer Zweibäumer / Biebinger (BMW 2002) 6399
4. Walch / Rothfuß (Porsche) 6513
5. Dr. Fischer / Tatzl (VW) 6658
6. Schindler (VW)
10. Horst Rack / Köhler (Porsche)
ret.: Janger, Bosch, Russling (all VW)

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Posted 26 October 2005 - 13:01

Thanks a lot, Eukie !

Regarding Semperit 70, do you know what was the final position and final time of : Muller and Sackl ? and how many starters and finnishers (also for 71) ?

Here a little resume of what I'm still looking for :

Rallye Trifels 1970
Rallye Hugenotten 1970
Nordland 1971 (8th to 10th and with cars)
Sachs Winter 1971 (co-drivers of Ottensmann (7th) and Rosenberger (10th)
Hubertus 1973 (9th and 10th)

Alpi Orientale 1970
Alpe della Luna 1970
Alpi Orientale 1971
Medio Adriatico 1971

and those results (with groups) from Austria

Thanks in advance
Regards
jrally

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Posted 29 October 2005 - 11:05

I would like to know if someone could help me to find these informations :

local of start

64-Austria and Sweden
66-Austria,Geneve
67-East Germany,Austria,Geneve and Donau
68-Austria and Spain
69-Austria,Donau,Baltic and Spain
70-East Germany,1000m Austria
71-Wiesbaden,Donau,1000m Austria,Tour of Belgium
74-Hessen,Donau,Taurus
75-Hessen

starters/finnishers
65 - Spain (finnishers)
66 - Germany (finnishers)
67 - Sweden (finnishers),East Germany,Austria (finnishers),Geneve,3 Stadt
68 - East Germany,Austria,Donau (finnishers),Spain and Geneve (starters)
69 - Sweden (finnishers),Austria,Donau,Baltic and 3 Stadt
70- Wiesbaden,Semperit,Lorraine,Donau
71- Lyon-Charbonnieres,East Germany,Circuit of Ireland,Wiesbaden,Semperit,Donau,1000m Austria and Tour of Belgium
72-Semperit and 1000m Austria
73- Lyon-Charbonnieres,Circuit of Ireland,Paris-St.Raphael,Vltava (finnishers),Donau,S.Martino di Castrozza, Baltic and Tour Auto (starters)
74-San Marino,Ireland,Paris-St.Raphael (starters),Hessen,Donau,Taurus,Baltic,OEASC and RACE
75-Maritim Nordland,Lucien Bianchi,Hessen, 4 Regioni (starters),Donegal,Alpi Orientali (starters), Taurus and RACE
76- Sachs Winter (finnishers),Welsh (finnishers),Donegal,Donau,Baltic and Manx
77-Baltic

Any help ?
Thanks in advance
jrally

#47 Rainer Nyberg

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Posted 29 October 2005 - 11:42

Swedish Rally (KAK-Rallyt), February, 1969, 123 started/ 58 finished

#48 jrally

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Posted 29 October 2005 - 12:42

Thank you, Mr. Nyberg !

regards
jrally

#49 eukie

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Posted 29 October 2005 - 19:48

That`s what I`ve got for 1971 from “rallye racing” (rr) and “sport auto (D)” (sa)

Lyon-Charbonnieres
121 / ? (rr) // 113 / 47 (sa)

Pneumant (East Germany)
128 / ? (rr)

Wiesbaden
Start: Nürnberg (?) / Finish: Wiesbaden
230 / 90 (rr) // 229 / 91 (sa)

Semperit
90 / ?
Start: Bregenz / Finish: Wien (rr)

Donau
Start: Wien / Finish: Brasov (rr)

1000 Minuten (Austria)
1. Munari / Manucci (Lancia Fulvia); 2. Pinto / Eisendle (Lancia Fulvia); 3. Janger / Wessiak (VW 1302); 4. Trombotto / Macaluso (Fiat 124); 5. Zasada / Bien (BMW 2002); 6. Fischer / Tazl (VW 1302); 7. Malat / Gottlieb (VW 1302); 8. Bochnicek / Kernmayr (Citroen DS); 9. Lux / Nestinger; 10. Dietmayer / Moser
Start: Wien / Finish: Laxenburg (near Wien)
55 / 19 (rr + sa!!)

Jorge, do you have the exact dates of the rallyes you asked for?

Regards,
Marco

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Posted 30 October 2005 - 01:15

Thanks Marco, for your help !

the dates ? (I will use 'L' for local, 'S' for starters and 'F' for finnishers


1964
25-28/05 - Austria (L)
09-13/06 - Sweden (L)

1965
01-04/04 - Spain (F)

1966
12-15/05 - Austria (L)
10-12/06 - Genève (L)
13-17/07 - Germany (F)

1967
08-13/02 - Sweden (F)
07-09/04 - East Germany (LSF)
10-14/05 - Austria (LF)
15-18/06 - Geneve (LSF)
19-22/07 - Donau (L)
05-08/10 - 3 Stadt (LSF)

1968
04-07/04 - East Germany (LSF)
15-19/05 - Austria (LSF)
17-20/08 - Donau (F)
10-13/10 - Spain (LSF)
17-20/10 - Geneve (S)

1969
14-18/05 - Austria (LSF)
31-03/07 - Donau (LSF)
19-21/09 - Baltic (LSF)
03-05/10 - 3 Stadt (LSF)
16-19/10 - Spain (L)

1970
18-21/03 - East Germany (L)
21-24/05 - Wiesbaden (LSF)
28-30/05 - Semperit (SF)
30-31/05 - Lorraine (SF)
29-01/08 - Donau (F)
16-18/10- 1000 m (L)

1971
17-20/03 - East Germany (F)
09-13/04 - Circuit of Ireland (SF)
03-05/06 - Semperit (F)
12-15/08 - Donau (SF)
11-13/11 - Tour of Belgium (LSF)

1972
08-10/06 - Semperit (SF)
13-15/10 - 1000 m (LSF)

1973
09-11/03 - Lyon Charbonnières (SF)
19-22/04 - Circuit of Ireland (SF)
20-27/05 - Paris-St. Raphael (SF)
06-07/07 - Moldau (F)
30-01/08 - S.M. di Castrozza (SF)
28-01/09 - Sachs Baltic (LSF)
14-24/09 - Tour Auto de France (S)

1974
01-03/03 - San Marino (LSF)
11-14/04 - Circuit of Ireland (SF)
10-12/05 - Paris-St. Raphael (S)
24-26/05 - Hessen (LSF)
27-29/07 - Donau (LSF)
30-31/08 - Taurus (LSF)
28-01/09 - Sachs Baltic (LSF)
18-20/10 - OEASC (LSF)
25-28/10 - RACE (SF)

1975
01-04/05 - Maritim Nordland (LSF)
09-11/05 - Lucien Bianchi (SF)
30-31/05 - Hessen (LSF)
30-31/05 - 4 Regioni (S)
20-22/06 - Donegal (SF)
28-29/06 - Alpi Orientali (S)
15-16/08 - Taurus (LSF)
24-26/10 - RACE (F)

1976
06-08/02 - Marktredwitz (LSF)
04-06/05 - Welsh (F)
27-30/05 - Hessen (LSF)
19-20/06 - Donegal (SF)
31-01/08 - Donau (SF)
08-11/09 - Sachs Baltic (LSF)
17-18/09 - Manz Trophy (SF)

1977
08-11/09 - Sachs Baltic (LSF)

That's it !
Regards
jorge