Drivers becoming politicians
#1
Posted 23 August 2005 - 21:10
Is Carlos' the only driver who has made the most of his popularity to start a political career ?
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#2
Posted 23 August 2005 - 21:19
Patrick Tambay is a deputy mayor according to the latest Ex-Green' 'Un.
I'm sure Ron Dennis would do well in politics - as would Bernie...
#3
Posted 23 August 2005 - 21:20
#4
Posted 23 August 2005 - 22:37
#5
Posted 23 August 2005 - 23:06
Yes, I found him here: http://www.cg06.fr/c...s-p-tambay.htmlOriginally posted by Bonde
Patrick Tambay is a deputy mayor according to the latest Ex-Green' 'Un.
Still I have to ask: what is the "Ex-Green' 'Un"
#6
Posted 23 August 2005 - 23:38
Rally champion and sometime circuit racer Paul Adams is a current MP
Ian 'Inky' Tulloch was/is mayor of the little town in the deep south from where he hails.
Inky would/should rank amongst the best saloon drivers from NZ that never ventured far from these islands, and is more recently a truck racer.
#7
Posted 23 August 2005 - 23:47
#8
Posted 24 August 2005 - 00:02
#9
Posted 24 August 2005 - 00:18
#10
Posted 24 August 2005 - 06:07
#11
Posted 24 August 2005 - 06:27
Not of Pau but Vergèze.Originally posted by D-Type
Maurice Trintignant was Mayor of Pau wasn't he
#12
Posted 24 August 2005 - 08:27
Wimille certainly had political ambitions, which I've attempted to research, but to little avail. I get the feeling they were beginning to take shape before being scuppered by WW2.
Willie
#13
Posted 24 August 2005 - 09:15
Originally posted by fausto
Oscar Larrauri is into politics in the same party as Reutemann (Peronistas), Martin Schanche is also involved in a "very right" wing party, in Norway....
Mr Schanche's often colourful behaviour on the rallycross circuit has been replicated in his political life. A disagreement with a Labour politician at a school debate prompted Schanche to punch his opponent in the face, not a promising start to a political career (although I suppose Prescott might disagree).
Reversing the theme I seem to remember a House of Commons "celebrity" race at Brands many years ago...
#14
Posted 24 August 2005 - 09:20
Originally posted by wdm
I think it's true to say that others were pushing Reutemann to run for president, but he himself felt uncomfortable with this...
Willie
..and this observation neatly mirrors the fact that in his previous life Frank Williams was tipping him for "presidency" of the WDC until his uncomfortable performance in Las Vegas back in '81.
#15
Posted 24 August 2005 - 09:50
#16
Posted 24 August 2005 - 10:07
I think he might have been Mayor of Hobart. Don't, however, quote me on that, I'm not sure at all other than the fact that he was in there somewhere.
Of greater stature was the late Syd Negus. After giving away racing he ran as an independent for the Australian Senate on a ticket aimed at ending death duties. He was successful.
Calling in at Bathurst on his way from Canberra to Perth one year (when Wayne was racing there?), he and his wife were encouraged to use their safety belts on that trip even though their use wasn't yet mandatory. They didn't... his wife never made it home.
#17
Posted 24 August 2005 - 10:08
Originally posted by Bonde
[BI'm sure Ron Dennis would do well in politics - as would Bernie... [/B]
Bernie did make a major donation to the Labour Party, didn't he? And I'm sure it was good politics, because he got the money back too.;)
#18
Posted 24 August 2005 - 10:33
Larry "Boom Boom" Cannon of 70s Indy fame was a politician of some sort, but I never sussed out exactly what!
#19
Posted 24 August 2005 - 10:48
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#20
Posted 25 August 2005 - 06:57
#21
Posted 25 August 2005 - 07:23
Originally posted by Bonde
...The name Max Mosely comes to mind in the context 'politician'...
Mosley's father, Oswald Mosley, was a relevant politician and member of the parliament.
#22
Posted 25 August 2005 - 07:41
He certainly held posts in the Conservative party and was also a Privy Counsellor. I'm not sure how active he was in the Lords though.Originally posted by Vanwall
And can we count Edward Assheton, aka Viscount Curzon, but best known as the 6th Earl Howe?
Re Max: he did harbour ambitions to be a Conservative MP, but was advised that his surname and father's reputation would be something of a liability.
#23
Posted 25 August 2005 - 09:23
Possible exceptions starring Jim Clark of course, and maybe Jack Brabham who never said enough to be really political - he just bashed on and DID IT.
Stewart, Senna, Prost, Lauda, Fangio....politicians, manipulative advantage seekers the lot of them...it goes with the territory.
DCN
#24
Posted 25 August 2005 - 10:21
Originally posted by WHITE
Mosley's father, Oswald Mosley, was a relevant politician and member of the parliament.
"A relevant politician"
Now there's a novelty...
#25
Posted 25 August 2005 - 12:23
Originally posted by Vitesse2
Re Max: he did harbour ambitions to be a Conservative MP, but was advised that his surname and father's reputation would be something of a liability.
Although he stood down before the election Max Mosley was at one time a prospective parliamentary candidate for his father's party, the post war Union Movement that is, rather than the pre-war British Union of Fascists. He also acted as an election agent for the UM. Guess that background wouldn't have helped with any mainstream political ambitions
#26
Posted 25 August 2005 - 12:30
Originally posted by Doug Nye
Huh - my reaction to the title of this thread is that almost ALL serious racing drivers have been politicians - wangling maximum advantage for themselves by whatever means might become available.
Possible exceptions starring Jim Clark of course, and maybe Jack Brabham who never said enough to be really political - he just bashed on and DID IT.
Stewart, Senna, Prost, Lauda, Fangio....politicians, manipulative advantage seekers the lot of them...it goes with the territory.
DCN
Hmm. Material for a new thread perhaps?
Other top drivers uninterested in racing politics ... Brooks? Amon? Peterson? Daniel Sexton? Tom bach Pryce?
#27
Posted 25 August 2005 - 12:35
Originally posted by Vanwall
.....Other top drivers uninterested in racing politics ... Brooks? Amon? Peterson? Daniel Sexton? Tom bach Pryce?
One assumes you never saw the Gurney for President stickers?
#28
Posted 25 August 2005 - 12:41
#29
Posted 25 August 2005 - 13:03
This might explain why so few drivers have ended up with a career in politics ;)
#30
Posted 25 August 2005 - 13:13
Originally posted by Vanwall
.....BTW, why aren't you engaged with watching the Australians getting their medicine at Trent Bridge?
I never knew they were sick...
When it comes to that, I'm not all that well. Is there any left over for me?
.....Where on earth is Trent Bridge? What river does that cross?.....
#31
Posted 25 August 2005 - 14:56
Heh.Originally posted by Vanwall
Nah! Too young. BTW, why aren't you engaged with watching the Australians getting their medicine at Trent Bridge?
Ray professes no knowledge of or interest in the world's greatest game.
Right now I'm sitting here bloody frustrated because it's been bloody raining in Nottingham .... and as I have to go off to work in an hour I'll miss what little extra play we'll get.
Surprisingly, Ray, the Trent Bridge crosses the River Trent
#32
Posted 25 August 2005 - 15:08
I remember Mike Kable once making a very apt statement about that game. Mike wasn't prone to making many apt statements, so this one stuck.
"It's ridiculous that two teams can play for five days and still not get a result."
Maybe it's Mike who should have become a politician?
#33
Posted 25 August 2005 - 15:36
He obviously wasn't either a connoisseur or a student of the game, since on one occasion South Africa and England still managed to draw a "timeless" test which was supposed to end in a positive result, no matter how long it took. It ended after ten days otherwise England would have missed the boat home ....Originally posted by Ray Bell
You are, apparently, talking about cricket...
I remember Mike Kable once making a very apt statement about that game. Mike wasn't prone to making many apt statements, so this one stuck.
"It's ridiculous that two teams can play for five days and still not get a result."
Maybe it's Mike who should have become a politician?
#34
Posted 25 August 2005 - 15:46
Originally posted by RS2000
Didn't Richard Petty serve as a Republican in North Carolina state congress (maybe still does)? At one time he was being talked about for representing NC or a NC congressional district in Washington (well NC has sent less likely people to DC in the past...)
I think it was 1996 when he ran for secretary of state. The accounts of his campaign weren't very good, though amusing...glorified autograph sessions where he announced things like 'I know nothing about the issue, but I plan to devote two days a week to this position' and the like....the capper was getting into a game of bumper tag on the interstate with a motorist who was too slow for his liking. When asked to comment he joked about putting the guy in a ditch Ultimately his popularity wasn't nearly enough to overcome his campaign....
Prost was the first name that came to my mind, having practiced with several F1 teams...
#35
Posted 25 August 2005 - 15:58
Originally posted by Vitesse2
.....It ended after ten days otherwise England would have missed the boat home
Why would that be a problem?
#36
Posted 25 August 2005 - 16:23
Cos they were being mistaken for Australians.Originally posted by Ray Bell
Why would that be a problem?
#37
Posted 25 August 2005 - 21:06
Originally posted by Ray Bell
Why would that be a problem?
Rumours of war. It was March 1939 - the day after the Test ended, while the players were on their way to Cape Town from Durban, the Wehrmacht rolled over the border into Czechoslovakia.
#38
Posted 29 August 2005 - 16:19
#39
Posted 29 August 2005 - 17:43
Originally posted by KJJ
Although he stood down before the election Max Mosley was at one time a prospective parliamentary candidate for his father's party, the post war Union Movement that is, rather than the pre-war British Union of Fascists. He also acted as an election agent for the UM. Guess that background wouldn't have helped with any mainstream political ambitions
Last night there was a programme on BBC2 about the Notting Hill race riots of 1958 (which, on a more constructive note, was the instigation for the Notting Hill Carnival we have today). Showed Oswald Mosely campaigning in his final politcal appearance before exile in Paris....supported by a young and enthusiastic-looking Max.
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#40
Posted 02 November 2005 - 17:47
One of the greatest Sicilian drivers at the Targa Florio, also known with the pseudonym "Codones", good hillclimber he drove Ferrari GTO, Dino 206S, Porsches. In 1971 he run the Targa in a works Alfa Romeo 33/3 with Nino Todaro (retired).
He is now the Chancellor of the University of Catania.
#41
Posted 04 November 2005 - 08:34
#42
Posted 06 November 2005 - 14:31
Originally posted by DOHC
Bernie did make a major donation to the Labour Party, didn't he? And I'm sure it was good politics, because he got the money back too.;)
I was in the offices when the money arrived back, after they had had the money for a year, courtesy of the UK press saying it was a bride to allow continued tabbaco money. He open the envelope, took out the cheque for £1 million, and said "I see they kept the interest!"
#43
Posted 06 November 2005 - 14:42
Originally posted by f1steveuk
the UK press saying it was a bride to allow continued tabbaco money.
Not the first time he's been said to be married to money.
#44
Posted 06 November 2005 - 15:09
#45
Posted 06 November 2005 - 15:28
MCS:
You're a funny man!
#46
Posted 18 May 2007 - 16:20
As well as having the good sense to marry a Welsh woman the new French Prime Minister Francois Fillon appears to be a keen motor sport fan. Some of the mainstream media are saying that he has competed in the Le Mans 24 Hour Race.........er I hesitate to say this but wikipedia gets it right by pointing out that this is infact the Le Mans Classic event. In 2006 for example he competed in a 1960 Ferrari 250GT Berlinetta.
Anyway M. Fillon defends Motor Sport on his blog, here for instance
#47
Posted 18 May 2007 - 16:29
ciao,
Stirling
#48
Posted 18 May 2007 - 16:49
Jacques Heuclin ran several times the 24h of LE Mans and was major and deputé
André Moynet was pilot during the war then minister then he built a car in 1968 for le Mans; Another car named Moynet came at Le Mans in 1975;
#49
Posted 18 May 2007 - 16:52
#50
Posted 18 May 2007 - 16:55
Lord (David) Steel is quite into the historic/endurance rallying scene these days - I think he's involved with HERO. Seem to recall that he likes Auntie Rovers.