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On the wagon

Started by David Beard , Sep 07 2005 17:30

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#1 David Beard

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Posted 07 September 2005 - 17:30

I've just found this old photo, I think taken with a borrowed rangefinder camera between my Kodak Brownie Cresta 3 and Zenit E periods..

It took me some while to identify the race, but I'm sure someone will confirm the occasion quickly for me. Anyone name a few characters? - I think I can see Tony Rudd.

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#2 Macca

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 09:15

Well, it's got to be the 1965 International Trophy - the only British race won by a BRM P261 (and the tractor/trailer lap of honour was a British and especially a Silverstone thing) - so that's JYS's arm just visible.

The short bloke two in front of Tony Rudd is Dennis 'Sherriff' Perkins, and I think it might be Cyril Atkins sitting on the front wheel.

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#3 David Beard

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 11:50

Originally posted by Macca
Well, it's got to be the 1965 International Trophy - the only British race won by a BRM P261 (and the tractor/trailer lap of honour was a British and especially a Silverstone thing) - so that's JYS's arm just visible.

The short bloke two in front of Tony Rudd is Dennis 'Sherriff' Perkins, and I think it might be Cyril Atkins sitting on the front wheel.

Paul M

Yes, I thought it must be that race, but unusually I can remember very little about it. Stewart's first F1 win, but Clark wasn't there.?

Is that Graham Hill sat on the front of the trailer?

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#4 David Beard

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Posted 13 September 2005 - 22:04

And from Brands Hatch, 1972 (sorry about the quality)

Emmo, Chunky, who else?

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#5 Vitesse2

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Posted 13 September 2005 - 22:25

Maria-Helena Fittipaldi behind the cup, I think.

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#6 Twin Window

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Posted 13 September 2005 - 23:19

The chap directly above Chapman is Geoffry Kent of Players, I think.

Other than that, I'm at a loss!

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#7 David Beard

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Posted 14 September 2005 - 16:58

Originally posted by Twin Window
The chap directly above Chapman is Geoffry Kent of Players, I think.

Other than that, I'm at a loss!

I wondered if John Tipler is among them....press officer for John Player Motorsport at that time?

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#8 Bonde

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Posted 14 September 2005 - 19:14

The bloke on the right with the sunglasses looks to me like 'Herbie' Blash, but wouldn't he have been with Brabhams in 1972?

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#9 David Beard

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Posted 01 January 2006 - 13:50

Another from Brands....

Bloke with the trophy?

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#10 Gary C

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Posted 01 January 2006 - 16:44

the guy in sunglasses on the JPS truck looks like Eddie Dennis to me

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#11 Gary C

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Posted 01 January 2006 - 16:45

i.e. directly above Chapman

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#12 FLB

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Posted 01 January 2006 - 17:08

Originally posted by David Beard
Another from Brands....

Bloke with the trophy?

Well, the bloke with the glasses bending down certainly looks like Mauro Forghieri.

Was this taken at the 1971 BOAC 1000km? Regga and Ickx finished second with the 312PB.

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#13 David Beard

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Posted 01 January 2006 - 17:21

Originally posted by FLB

Well, the bloke with the glasses bending down certainly looks like Mauro Forghieri.

Was this taken at the 1971 BOAC 1000km? Regga and Ickx finished second with the 312PB.

I believe I took the photo at the top of Paddock, ROC 71.

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#14 David Birchall

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Posted 01 January 2006 - 17:30

"On the Wagon" is where I should be after last night!

jeez

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#15 RS2000

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Posted 01 January 2006 - 18:24

Lost track of when this was taken and too small to see clearly. Rindt Winkelman Brabham after a rare defeat of works Brabham Hondas, Motor Show 200 F2 Brands 1966??

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#16 David Beard

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Posted 22 May 2008 - 19:59

From my friend Keith Martin

Somewhere I have posted a colour shot taken seconds earlier (we were standing together) but it's no where near as good as this...

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#17 sterling49

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Posted 22 May 2008 - 20:26

Brands 1970 David? Looks like a 72 on the trailor, a young Bob Dance next to Rindt sitting above the camera? Great shot, amazing, 38 years ago, and I was standing at South bank as usual

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#18 swintex

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Posted 22 May 2008 - 21:08

Originally posted by sterling49
…and I was standing at South bank as usual

…so I probably got to see Brabham going slowly before you did

I was opposite the pits just before the big brick-built grandstand (that incororated the Grovewood Suite?)

Was that the "Top Straight" in those days? or have I just made that up?

Richard

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#19 sterling49

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Posted 22 May 2008 - 21:34

Originally posted by swintex
…so I probably got to see Brabham going slowly before you did

I was opposite the pits just before the big brick-built grandstand (that incororated the Grovewood Suite?)

Was that the "Top Straight" in those days? or have I just made that up?

Richard

No Richard, you didn't make it up (I suffer from this as well!) I saw Black Jack at Clearways, obviously freewheeling :cry:

, I felt for him after Monaco and all. The Grovewood Suite, all the names of the day, John Webb and co, all had their car parking spaces named on plaques, beats the "hot desking/parking" that abounds today :rolleyes:

IMHO, Brands was so much nicer then, rustic, muddy, smelly loos, awful tea from Minters, scaffold planks for seats in the Grandstands, old pits and paddock (with scaffolding and corrugated tin roofing) give me that anyday to the clinical appearance now, devoid of trackside banners(Mintex,Yazaki, Edward Lewis etc) and no M20 as a back drop :eek:

...oh yes, it was the "Top Straight" when races used to start on a 3-2-3-2-3 grid :up:

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#20 Barry Boor

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Posted 22 May 2008 - 22:06

Jack went past me, just before Hawthorn's, going perfectly well.

It was some time before I realised what had happened.

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#21 sterling49

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Posted 22 May 2008 - 22:17

Originally posted by Barry Boor
Jack went past me, just before Hawthorn's, going perfectly well.

It was some time before I realised what had happened.

I can picture that lovely car going sedately towards the finish line, it was a BT33 right? In the new turqoise/yellow strip, gorgeous :up:

The trouble with being out on the long circuit Barry, was that often, you could not even hear the Tannoy system, in the 6 hour races, it appeared to be like "interference" and you were put back in touch with reality upon making it back to the "short" circuit. But the viewing was great, Hawthorn was superb, I can still see Senna flying around there, great view of the man at work in the cockpit.

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#22 Peter Darley

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 16:18

Originally posted by David Beard
From my friend Keith Martin

Somewhere I have posted a colour shot taken seconds earlier (we were standing together) but it's no where near as good as this...

From top left. Eddie Dennis, below him with sunglasses, Les Banks, Competitions Manager of Armstrong, Maurice Phillippe, ACBC, Jochen Rindt, Gordon Huckle, Dave Sims.