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#1 Bonde

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Posted 10 September 2005 - 00:10

Inspired by the recent "Lola Limp" thread (http://forums.autosp...&threadid=81669) and some private e-mail exchanges with David M. Kane, I decided to do a forum search in order to find threads highlighting the sentiment of racing car designers, drivers and sanctioning bodies toward passive safety, i.e. driver protection in the event of an accident, in years past. I found some threads (http://forums.autosp...rder=descending), but none that speifically address how the sentiment of designers, in their own words, changed through the years.

What I am hoping to find with this thread is the view of insiders at a given time in history, particularly from the early 1970s through the 1980s, as this is a period I have memories of myself.

Admittedly, it is always easy with the benefit of hindsight to point out how appalling design for passive safety generally was in the past relative to current standards, but the standards of the time should be viewed in the light of their own time in order for us to try to understand the thinking of those times, I suspect.

Personally, I remember a 'feeling' of passive safety improving in small increments through the 1970s, mixed with concern about greatly increasing speed combined with the drivers being situated further and further forward in cars with single-skin footwells and increasingly narrow chassis side members in the ground effect era of the early 1980s.

I remember thinking as an adoloescent arm chair enthusiast in the mid 1970s that the introduction of forward roll hoops was a significant advance (wow : ), and as we already had bag tanks, deformable (side) structures, seat belts, main roll hoops, Armco, catch fencing and increased run-off areas, Nomex clothing, medical air bottles, on-board extinguishers and full-face helmets (and bibs!) how could we possibly improve much upon that?

Of course subsequent developments would show me how wrong I was in that sentiment - but was it not a common view shared by most people actually inside racing then? It never really occured to me at the time that, for instance, shallow aluminium tubs (there's that Lola Limp connection) and single-skinned foot boxes probably weren't such a brilliant idea safety-wise - but, hey, they were modern so they must be safer than their predecessors almost by default, right? :rolleyes: Wrong, of course - but that was how I really felt: The 1975 model was, I assumed then, automatically better able to protect its driver than a 1974 model, simply because I assumed lessons-learned were incorporated - also in the field of passive safety.

Looking back, it now appears to me that a lot of blind eyes must have been turned on passive safety at various junctures. Alright, shallow tubs had to be wide, so they must have provided better lateral protection, right? Well, yes, if you assume that whatever it was that went into the side didn't just run right over the driver "protected" by a [flimsy] GRP 'conning tower' cockpit surround. Then with ground effects we got central tankage and wide 'crushable' side pods - good - but it did actually occur to me then that the chassis side members were becoming rather thin and the driver's legs stuck out there somewhere in front of the front wheels - a backward step for safety I thought, but I also automatically assumed that the designer's somehow made the cars more crash resistant regardless. Looking at what happened to Marc Surer (twice!) and poor Palletti seemed to indicate that frontal protection was slow in coming. Why? We also saw a multitude of badly shattered legs in Indycars in those days, and prior to that busted arms and broken necks when the shallow-tub cars rolled. Why was this allowed to go on for so long? For a couple of decades we also saw comression crumpled tubs, woefully lacking in internal substructure bulkheads, and spaceframes that were designed for stiffness only, not for strength. Why? It was well known that the drivers tended to 'ride it out', stuck in their crashing cars, even before the introduction of seat belts and roll hoops, and that the chassis then had a protecting role to perform. Surely, the drivers weren't expendable?

The basic structural engineering principles needed to significantly increase the 'crashworthiness' of either type of chassis structure were known at the time, but not applied, witness Matra's multiple-bulkhead tubs (subsequently mitigated against by compulsory bag tank rules) and the 'Sigma' concept car. Adding strength would add weight, yes, but it would be the same for everyone. Did Rindt's crumpled 1969 Barcelona tub appear to be a fluke simply because he survived almost intact (that was the flukey part!)? As did Richard Robart's later devastated F2 March? Tubs were folding up left, right and center, or being torn apart by Armco, in both cases often with ruptured tanks and a funeral pyre as the grisly finale (if the driver wasn't already minced) - why was the response of both competitors and the governing bodies to the carnage of the 1970s so slow? I recall thinking at the time that pretty much all the fatal accidents of the time were "freak accidents - you can't cover every eventuality", but the ability of doing something about it was well within the engineering capabilities of the time, even still using aluminium stressed skin chassis (or steel tubular spaceframes), and even at reasonable cost, yet it wasn't really until we got carbon fibre and we began getting used to the idea of seeing both car and driver surviving fairly major shunts that 'crashworthy' chassis began getting the attention of authorities, designers and (perhaps) drivers alike. Yet it still took the death of Senna only 11 short years ago to get the message through that the driver's head was still terribly exposed

I now believe there's always got to be room for improvement...I don't believe it's callousness that prevented progress in 'design for safety' - I think it was ignorance and complacency combined.

If there are anyone in this forum who was involved in the design and manufacture of racing cars in the 1970s and 1980s, I would like to hear what your sentiment on 'crashworthiness' was in those days (Alan Brown is one such). And, yes, I'm as much a hypocrite as the next guy - I felt invulnarable when sat in my 1980s Formula Fords and am now actually looking forward to racing my much less safe 1966 Formula Vee, although it now has an effectual roll hoop and thicker side panels. Does being engaged in motorracing somehow disengage some parts of our cognitive abilities, I wonder?

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#2 Cirrus

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Posted 10 September 2005 - 08:33

I think your post has covered the subject very well, Anders. Designers tended to use most of their creative powers in making quicker cars. The safety aspect was secondary, and involved little original thought.

I have known Ron Tauranac since the seventies, and have worked on designs with him. His cars have generally had the reputation of being amongst the safer designs - the RT1 had a tub that was both wide and deep, but sadly, people still died in them. When the RT2/3 came out, the driver moved forward, as was the case with most "proper" ground effect cars, but there was at least an attampt to provide some sort of impact-absorbing nose box. We spent some time, a couple of years ago, working on a small hillclimb/sprint single seater design, and there was a notable difference in his approach. Safety was now very near the top of his priorities. The steering column was outside the cockpit area, the driver's knees could be lifted to his/her chest, and not hit the dashboard, and the driver's feet were well behind the front wheel centreline, as per MSA regulations, there was proper F3-style head protection etc. He was appalled that there was at least one manufacturer still making spaceframe single seaters with the driver's feet way out in front of the wheels, taking advantage of the regulation that gave old designs an exemption to that rule.

The similarity of current formula cars to each other - something which has been bemoaned many times here on TNF, is very much down to safety regulations. Take a look at the cockpit regs for F3 cars. If you sketch out the mandatory dimensions you've got your tub pretty well defined. I am sure that, even today, if designers were not forced to incorporate safety features, compromises would still be made in the interests of speed.

#3 Bonde

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Posted 10 September 2005 - 11:05

Thanks for your swift and insightful response, Alan.

I agree that for better or for worse, the current crash safety configuration requirements to a large extent dictate the appearance of the modern single seater - the other and at least (IMO) equally conspicuous 'template' being aerodynamics regulations.

Personally I would have preferred regulations that told what safety requirements to meet, rather than how (although either approach is applied in some areas). However, the 'what'-approach is much more complex to to define and expensive to validate than the 'how'-approach, so at least for the lesser formulae specific configuration requirements makes a lot of sense - even if it does tend to make the cars look very much alike - very few formulae offer scope for innovation or just 'being different' - DSR in the US is one, and perhaps F750 in the UK - but where are the open-wheeled single seaters?. But I think nowadays most people would prefer that to the filling of hospitals and morgues with drivers...

But I also think there is an increasing tendency to make cars of the lesser formulae, even in the (too) numerous single-make ones where there is no technical competition to justify it, look like F1 cars because F1 gets so much media attention. In the seventies we weren't averse to the appearance of narrow-tracked F3 cars with bluff noses - we accepted that the needs of F3 were somewhat differnt from those of F1. And as F1 cars are pretty much designed by the rule book today and thus look near-identical to the untrained eye, so the cars of the lesser formulae will tend to look near-identical, too. We had the same situation in the 1960s, but I think for a different reason: The cigar-shape configuration was the optimum configuration for a single seater prior to the 'discovery' of downforce.

Apologies for digressing from my 'own' thread!

Back on topic: I always considered Tauranac's designs to be at the better end of the passive safety spectrum - for its day, the RT1 protected its driver well, and the the RT2-RT4 series tubs had a number of intermediate bulkheads in the side box beams and large side pods (prior to 1985) - and then honeycomb came in.

If my memory serves me, Gary Anderson's Anson SA3 was considered quite a strong and safe design at the time (1982), due to its 1" honeycomb 'planks', but the driver almost sat on the front axle like in a Kieft 500cc F3 car - only Formula SAE/Student cars seem to allow that configuration today (...and - oh - the Jedi, which I think is what Ron was referring to...)

ETA: Apologies for calling you 'Brown', Mr. Morgan! I dunno what I was thinking of at the late hour of my OP... :blush:

#4 Geoff E

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Posted 10 September 2005 - 19:32

Originally posted by Bonde

SA3 ... the driver almost sat on the front axle


The SA4 had similar characteristics

http://8w.forix.com/...dd/ansonsa4.jpg