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#1 Kvadrat

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 02:34

Here's list of 1945 races compiled by more or less known information found mainly at TNF.


Date		Day	 Country	   Venue						   Race								 Class						 Information

15.06.45	Fri	 Great Britain Wrotham Park, Barnet			Motor Cycling Club Rally										   [URL=http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?postid=586048#post586048]2[/URL]

14.07.45	Sat	 Great Britain Cockfosters					 The Enthusiasts car rally										  [URL=http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?threadid=30833]2[/URL]

18.08.45	Sat	 Great Britain Naish House, Clapton-in-Gordano Bristol MCC & LCC hill-climb									   [URL=http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?postid=586065#post586065]2[/URL]

09.09.45	Sun	 France		Bois de Boulogne, Paris		 Coupe Robert Benoist				 up to 1500cc u/s			  [URL=http://members.fortunecity.com/quintin_cloud/1933to49/1945crb.htm]1[/URL]  [URL=http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?threadid=11059]2[/URL]  [URL=http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?threadid=37848]2[/URL]

09.09.45	Sun	 France		Bois de Boulogne, Paris		 Coupe de la Liberation			   up to 1500cc s/c, 2000cc u/s  [URL=http://members.fortunecity.com/quintin_cloud/1933to49/1945libr.htm]1[/URL]  [URL=http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?threadid=11059]2[/URL]  [URL=http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?threadid=37848]2[/URL]

09.09.45	Sun	 France		Bois de Boulogne, Paris		 Coupe des Prisonniers				over 3000cc				   [URL=http://members.fortunecity.com/quintin_cloud/1933to49/1945pris.htm]1[/URL]  [URL=http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?threadid=11059]2[/URL]  [URL=http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?threadid=45969]2[/URL]  [URL=http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?threadid=37848]2[/URL]

27.10.45	Sat	 Great Britain Filton Airfield				 Bristol Aeroplane Company MSC sprint							   [URL=http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?threadid=32352]2[/URL]  [URL=http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?postid=588407#post588407]2[/URL]

16.12.45	Sun	 Italy		 Mergellina - Posillipo		  Mergellina - Posillipo hill-climb								  [URL=http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?postid=1017597#post1017597]2[/URL]



Information sources:



1. [URL=http://members.fortunecity.com/quintin_cloud/index2.htm]Formula 1 Homepage of GP results & History[/URL]

2. [URL=http://forums.atlasf1.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=10]The Nostalgia Forum[/URL]

What's known on the first event, Motor Cycling Club Rally? What was the club?

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#2 Rob29

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 07:34

The British ones listed were sprints not races AFAIK.

#3 Kvadrat

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 09:39

I never thought that sprint is special kind of motorsport events. Thank you for correction!

#4 David McKinney

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 09:49

Another quirk of the English language, Vladimir
Sprint means a short race, and is sometimes used in a circuit-racing context.
But in the general motor-sporting context, a sprint has come to mean a very short dash, usually on the flat, most times wiith only one car (or perhaps two) leaving at one time, and more often than not in a straight line from a standing start. But I've chosen my words very carefully ;)
"Sprint cars" in the US are something different again

In your list, only the Paris events are races in the strict sense of the word

#5 Kvadrat

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Posted 12 October 2005 - 00:50

Thank you.

And what about Motor Cycling Club Rally?

#6 David McKinney

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Posted 12 October 2005 - 04:53

Not a clue, except that it was presumably a rally, not a race

#7 Kvadrat

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Posted 12 October 2005 - 09:47

In fact I'm interested in various kind of motorsport events because some of minor ones can be connected to as so major races as can be imagined. 1945 was year of recovery and it's very interesting to see if some big players used a chance to resume usual games as early as possible.

#8 Vitesse2

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Posted 12 October 2005 - 21:00

Originally posted by David McKinney
Not a clue, except that it was presumably a rally, not a race

Rally being another quirk of English, of course.

This would not be a competitive event run over stages, but probably merely a meeting of enthusiasts. There might have been some form of competition - as at Cockfosters - but equally, it might just have been a static exhibition of motorbikes.