Maybe some of you know about this page :
http://www.geocities...ampionship.html
May be you know even more about this subject?
Comments and pictures of South African liveries and local cars welcome !
A web page about South African F1 championship
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, Dec 01 2005 16:49
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Hieronymus
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 05:32
So, what do you exactly want to know about the South African F1 championship? Perhaps I can answer a question or two...
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 10:28
Thanks Hieronymus !
Well, a part from the results I can read there :
http://www.silhouet....e/f1/title.html
and the page mentionned above, the pnly thing I have is some pics of South African private entries in the WC GP of South Africa.
I'm interested in anything else, stories, pictures, why only SA had a national F1 serie? Why did it stop?
And of course, especially, stories and pictures of local cars or bought cars with special liveries.
Well, a part from the results I can read there :
http://www.silhouet....e/f1/title.html
and the page mentionned above, the pnly thing I have is some pics of South African private entries in the WC GP of South Africa.
I'm interested in anything else, stories, pictures, why only SA had a national F1 serie? Why did it stop?
And of course, especially, stories and pictures of local cars or bought cars with special liveries.
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Hieronymus
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 13:18
Send me an email. I am sure I can help you...
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Posted 07 December 2005 - 08:14
I found on a french site http://www.statsf1.com/ this comment on Ray Reed who entered but did not attend the 1965 SA GP :
Ce pilote rhodésien a sans doute la carrière la plus courte de l'histoire du sport automobile. Ingénieur de formation, il conçoit et construit dans ses ateliers rhodésiens une voiture destinée aux courses de F1 en Afrique du Sud. C'est ainsi que sors des usines de l'entreprise Ray Engineering la Ré-Alpha, une Alfa Roméo, re-conçue pour la réglementation actuelle.
Ray l'étrenne lors du Rand GP 1964, mais sera contraint à l'abandon au bout de 23 tours.. Ce sera malheureusement l'unique sortie d'une Ré-alpha, puisque quelques semaines plus tard, Reed décèdera dans un accident d'avion, peu avant le GP d'Afrique du Sud.
I'll try a translation :
This pilot from Rhodesia has without doubt the shortest career of motorsport. Trained as an engineer, he designed and builded in his Rhodesian workshop a car to enter the South African F1 championship. This way, his Ray Engineering Company works issued the Ré-Alpha, an Alfa-Romeo redesigned following the present regulations.
Ray entered it first at the Rand GP in 1964, but withdrew after 23 laps. Sadly, it will be the only appearance of the Ré-Alpha, as Reed will perish shortly after in a plane crash, only a few days before the South African GP.
Beautiful and sad story...
I could find neither photo of this Ré-Alpha nor of this Rhodesian gentleman
Ce pilote rhodésien a sans doute la carrière la plus courte de l'histoire du sport automobile. Ingénieur de formation, il conçoit et construit dans ses ateliers rhodésiens une voiture destinée aux courses de F1 en Afrique du Sud. C'est ainsi que sors des usines de l'entreprise Ray Engineering la Ré-Alpha, une Alfa Roméo, re-conçue pour la réglementation actuelle.
Ray l'étrenne lors du Rand GP 1964, mais sera contraint à l'abandon au bout de 23 tours.. Ce sera malheureusement l'unique sortie d'une Ré-alpha, puisque quelques semaines plus tard, Reed décèdera dans un accident d'avion, peu avant le GP d'Afrique du Sud.
I'll try a translation :
This pilot from Rhodesia has without doubt the shortest career of motorsport. Trained as an engineer, he designed and builded in his Rhodesian workshop a car to enter the South African F1 championship. This way, his Ray Engineering Company works issued the Ré-Alpha, an Alfa-Romeo redesigned following the present regulations.
Ray entered it first at the Rand GP in 1964, but withdrew after 23 laps. Sadly, it will be the only appearance of the Ré-Alpha, as Reed will perish shortly after in a plane crash, only a few days before the South African GP.
Beautiful and sad story...
I could find neither photo of this Ré-Alpha nor of this Rhodesian gentleman
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ian senior
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Posted 08 December 2005 - 11:46
That really is an interesting site - thanks for sharing it with us. The pisture of the "biplane" Lotus 49 shows it with an exhaust system most unlike any other I have seen on a 49 - a kind of "up and over " arrangement. Wonder if there was any performance advantage.
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Posted 08 December 2005 - 23:38
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Could something have happened to Love's Cossie ? looks more like a Chev F5000 block in the
back of the 49 (red cam covers ?) and what is that thick white radius link which doesn't seem to meet the rear upright.
The pipes on Sam Tingle's LDS Mk10 (Brabham BT24 based) could indicate a sudden re-hash of the Love 49 with a Repco ?
Just wondering.....can't find any details in the literature
Could something have happened to Love's Cossie ? looks more like a Chev F5000 block in the
back of the 49 (red cam covers ?) and what is that thick white radius link which doesn't seem to meet the rear upright.
The pipes on Sam Tingle's LDS Mk10 (Brabham BT24 based) could indicate a sudden re-hash of the Love 49 with a Repco ?
Just wondering.....can't find any details in the literature
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Posted 09 December 2005 - 00:01
Just looked up some on LDS racers in Bernard Cowdrey's book
"The Half ton Formula".............seems there is a lady named
Jannie van Aswegen who has supplied him with lots of
LDS pics and info.
Any S.A TNFer know her ?
This image posting is getting on my nerves, but I'll get the hang of it
someday.
I'm only 56
"The Half ton Formula".............seems there is a lady named
Jannie van Aswegen who has supplied him with lots of
LDS pics and info.
Any S.A TNFer know her ?
This image posting is getting on my nerves, but I'll get the hang of it
someday.
I'm only 56
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Posted 09 December 2005 - 10:04
Jannie was definitely male last time I talked to him.
Here's your picture
Here's your picture
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Posted 09 December 2005 - 20:34
Thanks a lot Allen,
BTW Motorsport carried a pic of Love in his bi-wing 49
from the S.Afr GP 1969, in his obituary.
Start nr is 16, his nr in the GP
As the previous Love bi-wing 49 pic in the above post
carries a nr 1 that would indicate it was pic shot at a National
race as Love had won the 1968 national title.
Does anybody else recall Love saving the Cosworth for the GP
and stuffing any old block in the 49 for the National races ? after all
Gunston had just forked out the cash for the 49 chassis in 1968,
I doubt Love had the time and or the want to go experimenting
with different exhausts.
BTW dito...very presumptious of a Dutchman to think that Jannie
is a name South Africans would not give to a male
BTW Motorsport carried a pic of Love in his bi-wing 49
from the S.Afr GP 1969, in his obituary.
Start nr is 16, his nr in the GP
As the previous Love bi-wing 49 pic in the above post
carries a nr 1 that would indicate it was pic shot at a National
race as Love had won the 1968 national title.
Does anybody else recall Love saving the Cosworth for the GP
and stuffing any old block in the 49 for the National races ? after all
Gunston had just forked out the cash for the 49 chassis in 1968,
I doubt Love had the time and or the want to go experimenting
with different exhausts.
BTW dito...very presumptious of a Dutchman to think that Jannie
is a name South Africans would not give to a male
