J hope someone can help me.
J would like to know, who were the top 10 of Gulf London Rallye 1968 ?
Do you know also the special stages winners ?
Thanks in advance
Luca
Gulf London Rally 1968
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Posted 27 December 2005 - 13:33
Can't helpp with the stage winners but...
Gulf London Rally : 30/06/68
1. Ake Andersson & Sven-Olaf Svendberg : Porsche 911L
2. Ove Andersson & John Davenport : Ford Escort TC
3. Carl Orrenium & Gustav Schroderheim : Saab 96 V4
4. Lars Nystrom & Lennart Svensk : Porsche 911L
5. Anders Kullang & Bo Bergman : Opel Kadett
6. Ake Gustavsson & ?? Mattsson : Volvo 122S
7. Andrew Cowan & Brian Coyle : Sunbeam Imp
8. Jan Svensson & Hans Thorszelius : Opel Kadett Rallye
9. ?????
10. ????
That's all I have
Rob
Gulf London Rally : 30/06/68
1. Ake Andersson & Sven-Olaf Svendberg : Porsche 911L
2. Ove Andersson & John Davenport : Ford Escort TC
3. Carl Orrenium & Gustav Schroderheim : Saab 96 V4
4. Lars Nystrom & Lennart Svensk : Porsche 911L
5. Anders Kullang & Bo Bergman : Opel Kadett
6. Ake Gustavsson & ?? Mattsson : Volvo 122S
7. Andrew Cowan & Brian Coyle : Sunbeam Imp
8. Jan Svensson & Hans Thorszelius : Opel Kadett Rallye
9. ?????
10. ????
That's all I have
Rob
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Posted 27 December 2005 - 14:29
Minor corrections: Sven-Olof Svedberg? and Orrenius. The results above appeared recently elsewhere. We are all sadly lacking our copies of MN etc for the right date for the rest of the results and entry lists etc.
I was a member of a service crew on that event - 4 days and 3 nights with only one 3hour halt and a few 1 hour halts. This year we also lost the event's main organiser, David Siegle-Morris.
I was a member of a service crew on that event - 4 days and 3 nights with only one 3hour halt and a few 1 hour halts. This year we also lost the event's main organiser, David Siegle-Morris.
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Posted 27 December 2005 - 14:40
A photo from the event.
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Posted 27 December 2005 - 15:02
Originally posted by RS2000
Minor corrections: Sven-Olof Svedberg? and Orrenius....
I have fingers like chicken-legs
Rob
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Posted 27 December 2005 - 15:24
Which part of London is that?Originally posted by RS2000
A photo from the event.
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Posted 27 December 2005 - 16:12
Originally posted by Twin Window
Which part of London is that? ;)
A part about 200 miles south west of it. It's not in the Gulf either!
The London Rally ran 4 times as an International, 1965-68, sposored by Gulf, organised by the London Motor Club. A sort of summer RAC Rally, covering much of Great Britain.
There have been odd attempts to revive a special stage rally in the true London area since. There was even a plan to run a stage rally in the London Docklands area during its redevelopment in the 1980s (allegedly scuppered by the governing body on safety grounds - deep water!).
The London Car Club, a different motor club, at one time ran the Nor'wester Rally in North Wales. The Sevenoaks and District Motor Club at one time stretched the "and district" tag by running the Kent Rally in Wales (an event that survives today on a small scale and will run on 18/19 February 2006 as a navigational night road rally entirely within the county of Kent).
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Posted 28 December 2005 - 07:25
Originally posted by Rob Ryder
Can't helpp with the stage winners but...
Gulf London Rally : 30/06/68
1. Ake Andersson & Sven-Olaf Svendberg : Porsche 911L : 4294
2. Ove Andersson & John Davenport : Ford Escort TC : 4444
3. Carl Orrenium & Gustav Schroderheim : Saab 96 V4 : 4691
4. Lars Nystrom & Lennart Svensk : Porsche 911L : 5712
5. Anders Kullang & Bo Bergman : Opel Kadett : 6123
6. Ake Gustavsson & ?? Mattsson : Volvo 122S : 6171
7. Andrew Cowan & Brian Coyle : Sunbeam Imp : 6171
8. Jan Svensson & Hans Thorszelius : Opel Kadett Rallye : 7317
9. Martin Sclater & Martin Holmes : Cortina Lotus : 7964
10. B Wilkinson & J Billett : Cortina Lotus : 8606
That's all I have
Rob
I can give you down to 15th if you wish.
I'll post the stage winners on a separate post.
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Posted 28 December 2005 - 07:45
Milan ,
J am also very interesting of your informations about the 11° to 15 ° in Gulf London and the stage winners.
Do you know the stage winners , also of previus year 67 - 66 - 65 ?
Thanks in advance
Luca
J am also very interesting of your informations about the 11° to 15 ° in Gulf London and the stage winners.
Do you know the stage winners , also of previus year 67 - 66 - 65 ?
Thanks in advance
Luca
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Posted 28 December 2005 - 07:51
There were 79 stages.
Stage 12 times were scrubbed because of timing problems. Cowan was given a time of 4 seconds for the 2.38-mile stage!
Stage 9 was cancelled.
Andersson (Porsche) won SS 1,5,8,10,13,18,24,28,30,31,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,
44,45,51,53,55,56,57,58,59,60,62,63,69,75,76.
Andersson (Escort) won SS 2,3,7,15,16,29,32,46,47,48,49,50,52,54,61,64,65,66,68,72,73,
74,77,78,79.
Soderstrom won SS 4,6,21,23,26,27.
Waldegard won SS 11,14,22,25.
Orrenius won SS 17.
Nystrom won SS 19,20,67,70,71.
Stage 12 times were scrubbed because of timing problems. Cowan was given a time of 4 seconds for the 2.38-mile stage!
Stage 9 was cancelled.
Andersson (Porsche) won SS 1,5,8,10,13,18,24,28,30,31,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,
44,45,51,53,55,56,57,58,59,60,62,63,69,75,76.
Andersson (Escort) won SS 2,3,7,15,16,29,32,46,47,48,49,50,52,54,61,64,65,66,68,72,73,
74,77,78,79.
Soderstrom won SS 4,6,21,23,26,27.
Waldegard won SS 11,14,22,25.
Orrenius won SS 17.
Nystrom won SS 19,20,67,70,71.
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Posted 28 December 2005 - 07:56
11. P Appleby & D Shields : Cortina GT : 9506
12. D Sutton & S Johnson : Cortina Lotus : 10480
13. P Hall & J Head : Cortina : 10694
14. E Moreiter & H Menkerud : Cortina Lotus : 11035
15. J Jago & D Spence : Cortina GT : 11674
I'll check and see if I have any of the earlier results.
12. D Sutton & S Johnson : Cortina Lotus : 10480
13. P Hall & J Head : Cortina : 10694
14. E Moreiter & H Menkerud : Cortina Lotus : 11035
15. J Jago & D Spence : Cortina GT : 11674
I'll check and see if I have any of the earlier results.
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Posted 28 December 2005 - 12:26
Thanks Milan.
It is Chris Sclater (car is Ex-Alan Allard, GLL487C?).
Other first names: Bruce Wilkinson, John Billet. Paul Appleby, David Shields. David Sutton (later of Rothmans Team fame). John Jago, Duncan Spence.
It is Chris Sclater (car is Ex-Alan Allard, GLL487C?).
Other first names: Bruce Wilkinson, John Billet. Paul Appleby, David Shields. David Sutton (later of Rothmans Team fame). John Jago, Duncan Spence.
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Posted 28 December 2005 - 21:10
Originally posted by RS2000
A photo from the event.
RS,
do we know who these chaps were?
Carles.
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Posted 29 December 2005 - 10:25
Originally posted by jarama
RS,
do we know who these chaps were?
Carles.
1 chap, 1 chapess. Searle Siemssen/Barbara Sabey, 998cc Mini Cooper, retired in North Yorkshire stages with burst hydrolastic suspension unit.
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Posted 29 December 2005 - 20:46
Thankyou, RS. 
Carles.
Carles.
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Posted 30 December 2005 - 07:01
I've just realised I did not include shared fastest stage times so I have now included them.
Andersson (Porsche) won SS 1,5,7,8,10,13,15,18,24,28,30,31,33,
34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,47,50,51,53,55,56,57,58,59,
60,62,63,69,75,76.
Andersson (Escort) won SS 2,3,5,7,15,16,29,32,42,46,47,48,49,50,52,54,61,
64,65,66,68,72,73,74,77,78,79.
Soderstrom won SS 4,6,21,23,26,27.
Waldegard won SS 7,11,14,22,25.
Orrenius won SS 17.
Nystrom won SS 19,20,67,69,70,71.
Andersson (Porsche) won SS 1,5,7,8,10,13,15,18,24,28,30,31,33,
34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,47,50,51,53,55,56,57,58,59,
60,62,63,69,75,76.
Andersson (Escort) won SS 2,3,5,7,15,16,29,32,42,46,47,48,49,50,52,54,61,
64,65,66,68,72,73,74,77,78,79.
Soderstrom won SS 4,6,21,23,26,27.
Waldegard won SS 7,11,14,22,25.
Orrenius won SS 17.
Nystrom won SS 19,20,67,69,70,71.
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Posted 30 December 2005 - 07:54
!967 GULF LONDON RALLY
1. Ove Andersson & John Davenport : Cortina Lotus : 2880
2. Bjorn Waldegaard & Lars Helmer : Porsche 911 : 2989
3. Ake Andersson & Sven-Olof Svedberg : Porsche 911 : 3009
4. Carl Orrenius & Gustav Schroderheim : Saab V4 : 3078
5. Simo Lampinen & Torsten Palm : Saab V4 : 3078
6. Roy Fidler & Barry Hughes : Triumph 2000 : 4497
7. Tony Chappell & Hywel Thomas : Cortina Lotus : 4947
8. Stig Blomqvist & Ulf Osterman : Saab : 5076
9. Olof Bromark & Rolf Eriksson : Saab V4 : 5276
10. Bob Bean & Brian Marchant : Cortina GT : 5559
11. Charlie Gunn & Norman Henderson : Cortina Lotus : 6143
12. Gunnar Blomqvist & Ingelov Blomqvist : Cooper S : 6337
13. David Thompson & David Stephenson : Cortina GT : 6676
14. Robert Murray & Ronald Palmer : Cooper S : 6805
15. David Pollard & David Fawcett : Sunbeam Imp : 6913
Ake Andersson won stages 1,2,4,6,8,9,10,11,13,17,23,24,42,46,47,51,53,57,58
Carl Orrenius won stages 3,16,29,45,56
Vic Elford & Terry Harryman (Porsche 911S) won stage 5
Tony Fall & Mike Wood (Cooper S) won stages 7,12
Bengt Soderstrom & Gunnar Palm (Cortina Lotus) won stages 13,14,15,16,25,26,27,
30,32,33,34,35,36,
Ove Andersson won stages 18,21,31,36,37,38,39,41,48,49,50,54,59,60,61
Bjorn Waldegaard won stages 13,19,40,43,44,52,55,60
Erik Carlsson & David Stone (Saab V4) won stage 40
Fastest times was shared on the following stages 13,16,36,40,60
Stages 20 & 22 were cancelled before the start.
Stage 28 was excluded from results – no clock at finish.
1. Ove Andersson & John Davenport : Cortina Lotus : 2880
2. Bjorn Waldegaard & Lars Helmer : Porsche 911 : 2989
3. Ake Andersson & Sven-Olof Svedberg : Porsche 911 : 3009
4. Carl Orrenius & Gustav Schroderheim : Saab V4 : 3078
5. Simo Lampinen & Torsten Palm : Saab V4 : 3078
6. Roy Fidler & Barry Hughes : Triumph 2000 : 4497
7. Tony Chappell & Hywel Thomas : Cortina Lotus : 4947
8. Stig Blomqvist & Ulf Osterman : Saab : 5076
9. Olof Bromark & Rolf Eriksson : Saab V4 : 5276
10. Bob Bean & Brian Marchant : Cortina GT : 5559
11. Charlie Gunn & Norman Henderson : Cortina Lotus : 6143
12. Gunnar Blomqvist & Ingelov Blomqvist : Cooper S : 6337
13. David Thompson & David Stephenson : Cortina GT : 6676
14. Robert Murray & Ronald Palmer : Cooper S : 6805
15. David Pollard & David Fawcett : Sunbeam Imp : 6913
Ake Andersson won stages 1,2,4,6,8,9,10,11,13,17,23,24,42,46,47,51,53,57,58
Carl Orrenius won stages 3,16,29,45,56
Vic Elford & Terry Harryman (Porsche 911S) won stage 5
Tony Fall & Mike Wood (Cooper S) won stages 7,12
Bengt Soderstrom & Gunnar Palm (Cortina Lotus) won stages 13,14,15,16,25,26,27,
30,32,33,34,35,36,
Ove Andersson won stages 18,21,31,36,37,38,39,41,48,49,50,54,59,60,61
Bjorn Waldegaard won stages 13,19,40,43,44,52,55,60
Erik Carlsson & David Stone (Saab V4) won stage 40
Fastest times was shared on the following stages 13,16,36,40,60
Stages 20 & 22 were cancelled before the start.
Stage 28 was excluded from results – no clock at finish.
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1966 INTERNATIONAL GULF LONDON RALLY
1. Ake Andersson & Sven Svedberg : Saab : 3453
2. Pat Moss-Carlsson & Liz Nystrom : Saab : 4096
3. Bjorn Waldegard & Bertil Eriksson : VW 1600 TL : 4623
4. Jan-Erik Lundgren & Geraint Phillips : Opel Rekord : 4661
5. Andrew Cowan & Brian Coyle : Imp : 4748
6. Martyn Esmor-Thomas & Barry Hughes : Cooper S : 5109
7. Michael Telford & Peter Handy : Anglia : 5276
8. Kjell Liverstam & Fergus Sager : Volvo : 5378
9. Malcolm Gibbs & Randal Morgan : Cortina GT : 5421
10. David Pollard & Tony Bains : Imp : 5422
Andersson won stages 1,11,13,17,20,23,24,29,30,33,34
U Lemmstorm (Cooper S) won stages 2,4
Roger Clark (Lotus Cortina) won stages 3,4,5,7
Tony Fall (Cooper S) won stages 7,9,10,12,14,16,18,26,28,29
Pat Moss-Carlsson won stages 9,27,31,32
Jars Damberg (R8 Gordini) won stage 9
Jack Tordoff (Cortina GT) won stage 15
Roy Johnson (Cooper S) won stage 19
H Lindberg (R8 Gordini) won stages 22,23,25
16 cars cleaned stage 6 (beat the bogey time)
28 cars cleaned stage 8
1. Ake Andersson & Sven Svedberg : Saab : 3453
2. Pat Moss-Carlsson & Liz Nystrom : Saab : 4096
3. Bjorn Waldegard & Bertil Eriksson : VW 1600 TL : 4623
4. Jan-Erik Lundgren & Geraint Phillips : Opel Rekord : 4661
5. Andrew Cowan & Brian Coyle : Imp : 4748
6. Martyn Esmor-Thomas & Barry Hughes : Cooper S : 5109
7. Michael Telford & Peter Handy : Anglia : 5276
8. Kjell Liverstam & Fergus Sager : Volvo : 5378
9. Malcolm Gibbs & Randal Morgan : Cortina GT : 5421
10. David Pollard & Tony Bains : Imp : 5422
Andersson won stages 1,11,13,17,20,23,24,29,30,33,34
U Lemmstorm (Cooper S) won stages 2,4
Roger Clark (Lotus Cortina) won stages 3,4,5,7
Tony Fall (Cooper S) won stages 7,9,10,12,14,16,18,26,28,29
Pat Moss-Carlsson won stages 9,27,31,32
Jars Damberg (R8 Gordini) won stage 9
Jack Tordoff (Cortina GT) won stage 15
Roy Johnson (Cooper S) won stage 19
H Lindberg (R8 Gordini) won stages 22,23,25
16 cars cleaned stage 6 (beat the bogey time)
28 cars cleaned stage 8
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Thank you Milan.
Roger Clark leaving the Start in 1966 (looks like Vic Elford standing to side of car as it moves away?)
Roger Clark leaving the Start in 1966 (looks like Vic Elford standing to side of car as it moves away?)
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Tony Fall's car before the start in 1966. From the registration number, it is Aaltonen's 1965 RAC Rally winning car, updated to 1966 Appendix J Group 2. Lack of evidence of it ever having been fitted with a roof light etc. is one fact that points to a new car...
