Red Five and Brown Five

I've been a lurker at TNF for years and feel a bit uncertain about posting in such exalted company but here goes anyway:

"Our Noige" (N.Mansell) used to bang on about the significance of the red number 5 on his cars when he was at Williams in F1 and Newman-Haas in the CART championship. Does anyone out there recall when this nonsense started?

Also can anyone name the members of Brown Five, the group of British tabloid journalists, so named by Nigle Roebuck, who obsequeously trailed Red 5 around in the early 1990s?

Originally posted by tyreiron
I've been a lurker at TNF for years and feel a bit uncertain about posting in such exalted company but here goes anyway:

"Our Noige" (N.Mansell) used to bang on about the significance of the red number 5 on his cars when he was at Williams in F1 and Newman-Haas in the CART championship. Does anyone out there recall when this nonsense started?

Also can anyone name the members of Brown Five, the group of British tabloid journalists, so named by Nigle Roebuck, who obsequeously trailed Red 5 around in the early 1990s?

Red Five came about because Murray Walker complained to Patrick Head that he couldn't tell the cars apart - hence the Red 5. The rest of the "myth" around Red 5 is just hype ......

Never heard of Brown Five so will be interested in the answer.

He was just a Star Wars fan