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Badge Scuderia Sant Ambroeus

Started by Leerdam , Apr 08 2006 09:30

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#1 Leerdam

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Posted 08 April 2006 - 09:30

The first owner of my Fiat 8V Zagato was Lumir Vesely. He was a member of Scuderia Sant Ambroeus. In the 1955 MM he had the badge of the Scuderia on the car. At least I think it was that badge. I would like to know how that badge really looked like. Can anyone help me ? Thanks, Arthur.
Here are some pictures of the car and the badge.
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http://users.pandora...ge detail 1.bmp
http://users.pandora...ge detail 2.bmp

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#2 JB Miltonian

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Posted 08 April 2006 - 19:20

These are images of the St. Ambroeus badge as taken from Marchiano's "Zagato: Seventy Years in the Fast Lane", 1989. There may have been other versions of the badge.

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#3 dretceterini

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Posted 08 April 2006 - 23:07

Here it is blown up, as I used on the t-shirts I made:

http://pg.photos.yah...ec2.jpg&.src=ph

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#4 fausto

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Posted 08 April 2006 - 23:51

Leerdam, can you please describe that badge, or post a clearer pic?

It reminds me of something seen in Italy, on some racing cars from the Monza area in the very late 70s/early 80s

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#5 dretceterini

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Posted 09 April 2006 - 02:17

I don't think it is the Scuderia St. Ambroeus badge, or the Scuderia Ambrosiana badge, but the photo isn't clear enough to really tell what it is...maybe some sort of Club Mille Miglia badge, as it appears to have the Mille Miglia arrow at the front part of the dark venter secton. There appears to be words written on the white border....

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#6 Leerdam

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Posted 09 April 2006 - 10:01

I agree with dretceterini. I don't think it is this one
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Because the badge on the car has a white band around it.
I do not have better photo's of the car and the badge on it.

Maybe good to know that he was a member of Scuderia Guastalla also but I don't think it was a badge of that Club.
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I think it IS a Sant Ambroeus badge but with another lay-out.

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#7 Leerdam

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Posted 09 April 2006 - 10:17

Here is the Guastalla badge on the car.

His 1955 MM entrance was as a member of Sant Ambroeus so I think chances are high that it is that badge.

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#8 Leerdam

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Posted 09 April 2006 - 21:46

Here are the two badges next to eachother.

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Isn't that a torch under the yellow and red arrow :confused:

By the way; thanks Miltonian for the interesting other version of that badge.

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#9 rudi

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Posted 10 April 2006 - 19:42

AT the 1955 MM Enzo Pinzero's car bore the same badge.
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#10 Leerdam

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Posted 10 April 2006 - 21:18

He Rudi, that's interesting ! Thanks.

It must be the same badge indeed. I bet the man lived in or near Milano. That was the home-town of the Scuderia Sant Ambroeus. (and still is)

I have asked them help last week in this matter but no answere so far.

I am sure that there must be unrestored cars on the planet that still carry the same badge......

Hope somebody can help.

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#11 aldo

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Posted 11 April 2006 - 16:01

I've at home an original Sant'Ambroeus badge on tin, dating back to 1952-1955.
I can take a photo and e-mail it: pls, let me have your e-mail.
I'll be back home on Tuesday Apr 18.
aldo.zana@agenpress.com