First years of the European Rallycross

Does anyone have some information about the first years of the European Rallycross Championship.
I'm searching for the years 1973 up to 1977 to selected rounds with date and the 1-10 finishing position.

There are championship tables (but not detailed results) in the FIA Yellow Books.

The first which came to hand was 1978, where the top 20 in the 1977 championship are shown (there were 17 further points scorers). 11 rounds and what looks like a very complicated scoring system!

Indeed 1977 has 11 selected rounds.
Point counting was in 1977 20-15-12 etc.

Points after round 8
Gründsteidl 78
Emilsson 76
Engseth 70
Würz 39
Andersson 34
Stenström 34
Teurlings 30
Nilsson 26
Nyström 24
Couwenberg 23

I used to follow Rod Chapman. Did he never compete in the Euro Championships?

Originally posted by Piet Ram
Indeed 1977 has 11 selected rounds.
Point counting was in 1977 20-15-12 etc.

Points after round 8
Gründsteidl 78
Emilsson 76
Engseth 70
Würz 39
Andersson 34
Stenström 34
Teurlings 30
Nilsson 26
Nyström 24
Couwenberg 23

The point scoring system's easy, but it's how and why some drivers dropped points that's bizarre!

Final standings:

Gründsteidl 98 (113)
Engseth 97 (113)
Emilsson 76 (101)
Andersson 48
Stenström 40 (41)
Würz 39 (50)
P Kruythof 38
Nyström 34 (42)
Bentza 33 (36)
Teurlings 30 (45)
Nilsson 26
Couwenberg 25

Gründsteidl scored in ten rounds and dropped three scores: 2 points at the first Valkenswaard race, 1 at Knutstorp and 12 from Britaxring. But he had two lower scores than 12 - both 8s - so why drop 12

Engseth also scored in ten rounds and dropped three scores: 2 points at the second Valkenswaard race, 6 points at Upgrimble and 8 points at Lururing. But he had another 6 point score, so why drop 8

Emilson dropped four from 10: 1 from Bergby, 3 from Opgrimble, 6 from second Valkenswaard and 15 from Britaxring. But he'd scored another 1 and two 10s ....

Andersson scored in five rounds and dropped no points.

Stenström scored in six rounds and dropped one score.

Würz scored in seven rounds and dropped two scores.

Kruythof scored in three rounds and dropped none.

Nyström scored in five rounds and dropped one of two 8s, despite having a 4 as his lowest score.

Bentza scored in five rounds and dropped one score, one of two 3s.

Teurlings had three second places (15 points each), but dropped one of them.

Nilsson also scored three times but retained all his points.

Couwenberg scored four times and retained all his points.

Further down the table two drivers each dropped one of three scores and another dropped one of four.

Originally posted by Twin Window
I used to follow Rod Chapman. Did he never compete in the Euro Championships?

I don't think he did Stuart, my fading memory tells me that not many UK drivers had the money or the machinery to compete against the Europeans; certainly when I saw the Euro boys race over here, they might not have been any more skillfull but they certainly seemed to have superior equipment.

Together with countryman John Taylor, Rod Chapman was the first champion in 1973, the so-called Embassy European Rallycross Championship. Due to the fact that John Tayor has won more rounds than Rod Chapman, John was the real first one.
In 1974 John finished 10th, while Rod was 9th in the final point standing. If some one has more information about both drivers in their Rallycross years, please ......

1975-1977 was more dominated by Dutch drivers. The problem is I can't find any information about these years.

You are right Vitesse 2 as I can see it's very complicated. The results of the rounds in Holaand and Belgium are known for me. Is it possible to make a scan of the table.

Originally posted by Piet Ram
If some one has more information about both drivers in their Rallycross years, please ......

In that period Rod Chapman is recorded as owning 5 different ex-works Escort identities.

Originally posted by Vitesse2

The point scoring system's easy, but it's how and why some drivers dropped points that's bizarre!

I don't have the precise info on 1977, but there used to be a rule that you could only the count the best result per country for the FIA championship. So that meant you could score for example 20 and 15 in one country and only score 1 in another country, but still had to drop the 15. That was because some organizers organized the ERA-championship on which the same rounds as the FIA-championship counted, but in a different pointssytem. Today the ERA has less rounds than the FIA version, but back then it was vice-versa.

Could you please post the full tables with results per round? I'd be very interested, also if you have them of different years!

This thread on another forum should be helpful.

Originally posted by ReWind
This thread on another forum should be helpful.

ReWind,

Thanks for your information. I'm already participating in this thread.

Regards,

Piet (Infiniti)

Originally posted by Valvert


I don't have the precise info on 1977, but there used to be a rule that you could only the count the best result per country for the FIA championship. So that meant you could score for example 20 and 15 in one country and only score 1 in another country, but still had to drop the 15. That was because some organizers organized the ERA-championship on which the same rounds as the FIA-championship counted, but in a different pointssytem. Today the ERA has less rounds than the FIA version, but back then it was vice-versa.

Could you please post the full tables with results per round? I'd be very interested, also if you have them of different years!

If you take a visit to the thread which ReWind has given, you will find my results. If you have some more information.... everything is welcome.

Originally posted by Valvert


I don't have the precise info on 1977, but there used to be a rule that you could only the count the best result per country for the FIA championship. So that meant you could score for example 20 and 15 in one country and only score 1 in another country, but still had to drop the 15. That was because some organizers organized the ERA-championship on which the same rounds as the FIA-championship counted, but in a different pointssytem. Today the ERA has less rounds than the FIA version, but back then it was vice-versa.

Aha! I've found that rule in the Yellow Book regulations for 1977. Now it makes sense! But it was dropped for 1978 when they specified that there would be only one event per country.