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#151 sterling49

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Posted 11 May 2008 - 11:18

Originally posted by Falconsprint
Hi there, just thought you guy's might be interested in my car.
PS: I will post some pics if you like but as yet cannot figure out how to do it.


Martyn, please look at the thread posting photos, would love to see some pics of your car, is it a road car still? Or competition car? Nice tow car whatever! :up:

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#152 RS2000

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Posted 11 May 2008 - 18:37

Would like to see photos too. Interesting reg no, since the Mann Mustangs were DPK6B and 7B.

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Posted 11 May 2008 - 18:41

It's probably second to Bo's Monte car the only one left that had not been chopped about for circuit racing.
My brothers and I used it on the road for nearly 10 years but also did a bit of drag racing with it.
All it did was spin the wheels all the time even on slicks. 13.53 @106 Mph. 3rd gear 8000 RPM (OUCH).
Like a fool I ended up leaving the car in my garden covered but rusting for about 8 years, in fact not like a fool I was a fool.
But all is better now as I have spent the last 4 years restoring my baby back to it's original spec or as close as I can given that I do not have huge money to throw at it, It's nearly ready for the road again!!! Odd bits and pieces, Aluminum bumpers are back on although they have seen some action and are a bit tatty they are original.
I am even loading the front bumper with the 6 spot and fog lamps (not original ones but close) as I think I may do a classic rally or two, well maybe. anyway just going to see about uploading a few pics for you.
Cheers, Martyn Cavey. UK

Must say I am pretty good with Pc's and the web but can I figure out how to upload pics!!!!!!!!!!
Try this link
About half way down the page, car has come on some since that post.
http://www.jalopyjou...t=193273&page=2

#154 David Shaw

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Posted 11 May 2008 - 22:36

To upload images, go to Imageshack here: http://imageshack.us and click the 'Browse' button top right of the yellow box, locate the image on your computer, click the orange bordered square 'host it!', it will upload the image and give you a choice of ways to display the image. You can display as a thumbnail, or a fullsize image. When the hosting options come up, drag your mouse over the whole address for the hosting option that you choose, press Ctrl and C at the same time (for copy) and then paste into your post.

#155 Falconsprint

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Posted 11 May 2008 - 23:13

Here I go and thanks for that David.
Today I have been making the brackets to hold the spots and fogs for the front of the Falcon.
I know the exact layout my car had but never had the original mounts but have very good photo's so I can replicate them.
Most of this car is original but had to replace floorpans and rear arches and other odd bits here and there.

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#156 Dave Wright

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Posted 12 May 2008 - 08:53

I wonder if its the car in this advert?

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#157 Falconsprint

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Posted 12 May 2008 - 18:41

Hi Dave, I at one point I had a copy of the mag with that advert but lost it.
It could be my car but John who got the car from Alan Mann didn't think so due to the drivers window.
All I can say is that a few people cannot believe I have an original but it is.
Bearing in mind that when my brothers and I got the Falcon it was december 1979 and back then there was no interest in them like there is now.
I even kept the original green logbook for the car with Alan Mann racing as first owner and John as second.
It's been part of my family for nearly 30 years now, good grief!! Alan Mann only had it for 3 at the most, I dread to think how much fuel I have put in that tank.
By the way if anyone notices the blue flash is the wrong shade, I know and it's about to be corrected.
One more thing is that it goes like the clappers and you have to steer it on the throttle, the back end is so light.
Great fun if you have the nerve.
Martyn.

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Posted 13 May 2008 - 06:48

Originally posted by cavvy


Didn't see Harvey punt Berger off,but I was at the Adelaide track watching and I don't think I've ever seen anyone mercilessly hammer a car the way Berger did that BMW.He was on the ragged edge every corner.



Gerhard Berger drove the Bob Jane BMW635 at the first GP in Adelaide whilst on F1 duty with Arrows.

Berger drove for BMW in tourers in Europe that year.

Adelaide was a dnf after ex Jane team member John Harvey punted Berger into the kitty litter.

Dont believe a F1 driver has driven anything else in anger on the day of the GP since.



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Posted 13 May 2008 - 07:04

Other Ford Favourites (from a Holden fan)

1.Peter Hopwood driving a Galaxie in true style -power on tail out -at Amaroo Park historics.Where is that car now? Same guy who diced with guru Welch both in Healey 3000s at Bathurst 1998 Donald Healey Tribute,and ended up with the faster lap time (but not the win)

2.Rob Tweedie still holds the Group Nc historics record at Eastern Creek in a Falcon Sprint from circa 1993,1.51.

3.Queenslander Brougham in a 292c.i. Customline at Bathurst Historics 2008.

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#160 Ray Bell

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Posted 13 May 2008 - 07:17

Originally posted by johnny yuma
Other Ford Favourites (from a Holden fan)

1.Peter Hopwood driving a Galaxie in true style -power on tail out -at Amaroo Park historics.Where is that car now? Same guy who diced with guru Welch both in Healey 3000s at Bathurst 1998 Donald Healey Tribute,and ended up with the faster lap time (but not the win).....


Are we about to see some serious :blush: :blush: :blush: ?

You'll learn why, and much more, if you read this post!

Holden fan indeed...

#161 Carles Bosch

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Posted 13 May 2008 - 19:56

Originally posted by Falconsprint
Hi Dave, I at one point I had a copy of the mag with that advert but lost it.
It could be my car but John who got the car from Alan Mann didn't think so due to the drivers window.
All I can say is that a few people cannot believe I have an original but it is.
Bearing in mind that when my brothers and I got the Falcon it was december 1979 and back then there was no interest in them like there is now.
I even kept the original green logbook for the car with Alan Mann racing as first owner and John as second.
It's been part of my family for nearly 30 years now, good grief!! Alan Mann only had it for 3 at the most, I dread to think how much fuel I have put in that tank.
By the way if anyone notices the blue flash is the wrong shade, I know and it's about to be corrected.
One more thing is that it goes like the clappers and you have to steer it on the throttle, the back end is so light.
Great fun if you have the nerve.
Martyn.

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Nice action shot, Martyn. :love: :love: :love: Do you have more? :confused:


Carles.

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 00:23

Only two, one's I have found on the net I will look them out.
Martyn.
Found them, here you go.
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#163 johnny yuma

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 00:26

stick my name on the Wall of Shame,Ray. a CHEV IMPALA IS NOT A FORD GALAXIE I will not forget again !!!
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That race between Moffat and Hopwood is still one of my all time favourites.Once I forget that I'm done !

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Posted 13 June 2008 - 10:30

A post on Forum-Auto has just confirmed Falcon ZE-1055 was shunted off side front during 64 Monte practice and ZE-1056 mid front (as GG originally mentioned). Confirmation received that these practice cars were respectively G.Hill and A.Hall (Denise McCluggage driving the latter at time of off).

#165 Ray Bell

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Posted 21 June 2008 - 22:28

Davo's best effort at Sandown... 1964...

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 08:18

Er........Galaxy's isn't it?
Here's a pic of Sir Gawaine rounding Ledger Corner at Warwick Farm, might be from the Tasman Meeting 1965, can't remember. This photo was taken during Saturday practice.
The image posting method on this forum is most unusual and not very user friendly!
I'll leave it to others to reveal Sir Gawaine, I recall he and Lex both practiced the car, I also seem to recall Lex raced it on the Sunday.


#167 Ray Bell

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 13:41

Originally posted by DJH
Er........Galaxy's isn't it?
Here's a pic of Sir Gawaine rounding Ledger Corner at Warwick Farm, might be from the Tasman Meeting 1965, can't remember.
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That would probably be the meeting... he didn't run any other Warwick Farm meetings that I recall...

Do you reckon you can try again with the pic string? You've used the wrong string, actually, that one might be for websites or something, you need the one marked 'Hotlink for forums (1)'.


*edit* Thanks David, now we can get it to show up. I think that's coming onto the start finish straight, isn't it? Or maybe comng out of Polo?

And sorry, DJH, it is spelled 'Galaxie'.

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 15:02

http://img515.images...e=galaxybb1.jpg works for me

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 22:34

It's Ledger, coming onto the start/finish straight in front of the grandstands. Polo is in the background. Got more pics. of the Galaxie, but, they're B&W slides. There's a beauty of Jane's Jag glued to back bumper of the Ford. The Galaxie had a very unusual exhaust note, like you could hear each plug firing in a very lazy fashion, 7 litres booming away effortlessly. Great cars IMHO. Also remember Lex braking much later than Sir Gawaine at the end of Pit Straight., of course the circuit would have been unfamiiliar to the Brit.

#170 Ray Bell

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 11:33

Time to find yourself a slide scanner...

I thought it was Leger, which leads into the start/finish straight... and now I realise you had that written there!

Keep 'em coming. But I don't see any mention of Lex racing this thing at the Farm. Just in practice, perhaps?

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 03:22

Hi everyone
I happened across this thread while scanning the www for all things Galaxie last weekend. The content was really amazing, enough for me to sign up to the BB!

Thanks
Darren Will :)

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 22:54

I just picked an old issue of Racing Car News (Sept ,66). There is a brief write up regarding the Martini Trophy race at Silverstone. There is also reference to a saloon support race where Brian Muir was driving a Galaxie and Roy Pierpont is driving a supercharged Falcon Sprint.

Can anyone remember this supercharged Falcon Sprint? Any information on the set up of the supercharged engine or pics welcome.

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 23:13

A 64 Galaxie [correct spelling] weighs about 1800k in complete road trim so I guess that is near enough to 4000lb. That is what a current VE v8 Commodore weighs so they are not really porky at all!
A 65 Mustang weighs near enough to 1300k so is about 1/2 a ton lighter. At a guest he Falcon Sprint would be about 100 lbs heavier than the Mustang.

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 01:02

Originally posted by fredeuce
I just picked an old issue of Racing Car News (Sept ,66). There is a brief write up regarding the Martini Trophy race at Silverstone. There is also reference to a saloon support race where Brian Muir was driving a Galaxie and Roy Pierpont is driving a supercharged Falcon Sprint.

Can anyone remember this supercharged Falcon Sprint? Any information on the set up of the supercharged engine or pics welcome.



I have some pictures of this car and several others from the period. I'll try to post them later tonite when I return from our local "cruise night".

BTW, the homologated weight of the '64 Falcon Sprint is/was "Overall weight with water and oil and spare wheel, but without fuel,
980 Kgs" or 2156 lb. Taken from RAC homologation #1250 November 4, 1963.
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Posted 20 March 2009 - 02:27

Originally posted by antonvrs



I have some pictures of this car and several others from the period. I'll try to post them later tonite when I return from our local "cruise night".

BTW, the homologated weight of the '64 Falcon Sprint is/was "Overall weight with water and oil and spare wheel, but without fuel,
980 Kgs" or 2156 lb. Taken from RAC homologation #1250 November 4, 1963.
Anton

But you would never get one of those cars within 150 kilos of that figure, and that is without seats and trim.

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 03:21

Originally posted by Lee Nicolle
A 64 Galaxie [correct spelling] weighs about 18 cwt in complete road trim so I guess that is near enough to 4000lb. That is what a current VE v8 Commodore weighs so they are not really porky at all!
A 65 Mustang weighs near enough to 13cwt so is about 1/2 a ton lighter. At a guest he Falcon Sprint would be about 100 lbs heavier than the Mustang.



I must be missing something here. My understanding is that a cwt is a hundredweight, which is 112 pounds. 18cwt is 112x18=2016 lb.
WTF?(as we say here in the city of LA). A Galaxie would be more like 36cwt and a Falcon about 19cwt.
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Posted 20 March 2009 - 03:44

Again, from the RAC Homologation form:
"General description of car: (specifying materials of bodywork) Two door body shell in unit with chassis, welded steel construction. Body panels of mixed construction, as follows: doors, engine hood, luggage compartment lid, front and rear fenders -- optionally of fiberglass-reinforced plasticOR pressed aluminum alloy sheet OR pressed steel sheet; bumpers, grille, brightwork, and miscellaneous embellishment -- optionally of plated pressed steel sheet OR pressed aluminum alloy OR stainless steel.
Main load-carrying structure is welded, and other panels are variously welded, bolted, riveted, glued, etc., to complete the automobile."

To the best of my knowledge none of these lightweight panels were offered for the Mustang. With thin fiberglass fenders, doors and hood, aluminum bumpers and a simple roll bar structure I think one could get a Falcon Sprint well below 2,500 lb. Ford wanted to be sure that nobody would be disqualified for being "too light". I built a car for a client in the '80s with heavy, locally made, fiberglass panels, steel bumpers and a very comprehensive roll cage. It weighed 2700 lb. in street driven form.
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#178 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 04:48

Sorry people I got my measurments mixed up. I knew what I meant. Senility arriving I think!!

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 09:52

Originally posted by antonvrs



I have some pictures of this car and several others from the period. I'll try to post them later tonite when I return from our local "cruise night".

BTW, the homologated weight of the '64 Falcon Sprint is/was "Overall weight with water and oil and spare wheel, but without fuel,
980 Kgs" or 2156 lb. Taken from RAC homologation #1250 November 4, 1963.
Anton


WOW, 2156 lbs is really a light weight Falcon. The best I was able to accomplish with the '65 Mustang was 2600 lbs.

Henry :wave:

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 12:40

Early in the thread there is a discussion about the American Torque thrust wheel and a comment that the Minilite was a development thereof.

The Torque Thrust wheel was an US product and the Minilites came from Britain. I have never before heard of a connection

Can anyone elaborate?

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 15:23

Hi guys. This is a great thread.

We have the Ex-Graham Hill Falcon from Monte 1964. The car was definitely Reg.# ZE1045 as I have a list from Alan Mann that shows all the chassis and Reg info. The car was later converted by Mann to a Group 5 touring car and driven by Roy Pierpoint then Martin Birrane.

I am desperate to find pictures of the car on the Monte. Can anyone help?



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Posted 24 June 2009 - 15:35

hwurl Posted Today, 16:23
Hi guys. This is a great thread.

We have the Ex-Graham Hill Falcon from Monte 1964. The car was definitely Reg.# ZE1045 as I have a list from Alan Mann that shows all the chassis and Reg info. The car was later converted by Mann to a Group 5 touring car and driven by Roy Pierpoint then Martin Birrane.

I am desperate to find pictures of the car on the Monte. Can anyone help?


Try www.motorsportimage.co.uk which is the Michael Cooper archive, I'm almost certain he photographed the Hill/Ian Walker entry leaving Reims, but check it out, the old memory box is a little unreliable at times!

#183 Peter Darley

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 16:15

Hi guys. This is a great thread.

We have the Ex-Graham Hill Falcon from Monte 1964. The car was definitely Reg.# ZE1045 as I have a list from Alan Mann that shows all the chassis and Reg info. The car was later converted by Mann to a Group 5 touring car and driven by Roy Pierpoint then Martin Birrane.

I am desperate to find pictures of the car on the Monte. Can anyone help?


Suggest you go to Post 111 of this thread

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 17:35

Suggest you go to Post 111 of this thread

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Peter,

Thank you for that. Unfortunately, those great pics are for the RAC Rally and are of a different car.

Hans

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 17:54

I must be missing something here. My understanding is that a cwt is a hundredweight, which is 112 pounds. 18cwt is 112x18=2016 lb.
WTF?(as we say here in the city of LA). A Galaxie would be more like 36cwt and a Falcon about 19cwt.
Anton

The weight of a 64 Galaxie, with exceptions, in full street trim, would be between 3,650-3,750 plus or minus twenty five pounds.


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Posted 24 June 2009 - 17:58

Early in the thread there is a discussion about the American Torque thrust wheel and a comment that the Minilite was a development thereof.

The Torque Thrust wheel was an US product and the Minilites came from Britain. I have never before heard of a connection

Can anyone elaborate?

There is none except the Minilite replaced the American Racing new 200 series wheels after multilple failures of American Racing's new Tran-Am wheel in sixty nine.
From what I read years ago, the Minilite was developed off of the Superlite.

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 06:56

The weight of a 64 Galaxie, with exceptions, in full street trim, would be between 3,650-3,750 plus or minus twenty five pounds.

And the Falcon would be at least 2600 lb. Would be a very dodgy car that size under a ton.

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 07:40

That's going to make Benno's Dodge look light...

Original weight (for registration in NSW) was 1550kg, there's carpet to come out, race seats to save weight (and give him some support), I figure at least 60kg out of the engine with alloy inlet manifold, alloy flywheel, race crank and rods and all that stuff. I reckon a race weight of 1500kg, maybe less.

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 08:39

That's going to make Benno's Dodge look light...

Original weight (for registration in NSW) was 1550kg, there's carpet to come out, race seats to save weight (and give him some support), I figure at least 60kg out of the engine with alloy inlet manifold, alloy flywheel, race crank and rods and all that stuff. I reckon a race weight of 1500kg, maybe less.


For those not metric inclined, it is a tad over 2.2lb to a kg, so 1500kg is slightly over 3300lb.


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Posted 25 June 2009 - 09:53

best weight i got out of a '67 Mustang,acid dip ect was 1350kgs.
Got a gut feel that a galaxie 427R were abot the same with 'glass doors, bumpers.

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Posted 15 April 2010 - 20:22

Hi guys. This is a great thread.

We have the Ex-Graham Hill Falcon from Monte 1964. The car was definitely Reg.# ZE1045 as I have a list from Alan Mann that shows all the chassis and Reg info. The car was later converted by Mann to a Group 5 touring car and driven by Roy Pierpoint then Martin Birrane.

I am desperate to find pictures of the car on the Monte. Can anyone help?


I have a number of pics from David/Alec Campion from the Monte 64, ex-mechanic of Alan Mann. To add to the reg.list that was posted earlier ZE-1048 is #45 and this is the damaged ZE-1055 with Alec himself.

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BTW - Just read in the UK American Classics that most probably an Alan Mann Galaxie was found early this year by Bill Shepherd Mustangs in Byfleet and is undergoing restoration. The article is also online on their website.

Edited by PonysiteEd, 17 April 2010 - 06:39.


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Posted 22 December 2012 - 21:14

Suggest you go to Post 111 of this thread

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Fast & furious - 3 Falcons- Brian Muir leads Roy Pierpoint and David Hobbs at the Oulton Park Gold Cup meeting 1968

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