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#1 Domination

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 23:34

Don't know if this has been posted yet but looks pretty awesome. Apparently there will be cars from BMW, McLaren and every other team as well




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#2 tahadar

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 23:39

NO. WAY. thats absolutely amazing!!! mmmmmmmm nurmburgring :love:

#3 steelyman

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 23:42

thats going to be awesome.

the other f1 cars - will they be in GT5 only or in the GT5 prologue do you know?

i see prologue on there for the ferrari so just curious

#4 Cenotaph

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 23:42

Well... Gran Turismos are not very good as simulators unfortunately, but that's cool i guess.

#5 tahadar

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 23:53

apart from the fact that you cant do damage, its probably the best simulator available to the public.

#6 kamix

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 23:57

Wrong forum.

Originally posted by tahadar
apart from the fact that you cant do damage, its probably the best simulator available to the public.


Yeah, closely followed by Need for Speed. :rolleyes:

Try the GTR games or F1C + mods.

#7 Piif

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 00:13

Originally posted by tahadar
apart from the fact that you cant do damage, its probably the best simulator available to the public.


It's not a simulator, not even near one. It's an (good) arcade driving game for a console. If you want real simulators, you need to play with a PC (games like GTR etc are excellent).

#8 Tenmantaylor

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 00:21

Its physical inaccuracies apart, I love all the Gran Turismo games and no doubt Ill be buying a PS3 especially for GT5, those screens look amazing! If they have the F2007, surely they have a road ferrari license also?

As for PC racing- Even though its mostly fantasy (It does have the BMW F1.06 and the Formula BMW junior cars) Id highly recommend live for speed for a brilliant driving and online racing experience.

Iv just had a 10 lap pitstop race in a 911 gt2 type cars with my FF wheel, having to manage tyres with door to door racing was awesome!

#9 spwolf

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 00:23

Originally posted by Piif


It's not a simulator, not even near one. It's an (good) arcade driving game for a console. If you want real simulators, you need to play with a PC (games like GTR etc are excellent).


actually, GT5P has new physics mode which makes it pretty realistic. Transition to PS3 helped a lot since now they have enough power to do much better physics... and if you combine Pro mode with Sim steering wheel mode and S1 tires, driving any RWD around the track is really hard, as it should be.

Kick back to Standard mode and it feels very arcadey.

I liked GTR as well, bud somehow GT makes you want to work it.

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 00:31

Originally posted by Tenmantaylor
Its physical inaccuracies apart, I love all the Gran Turismo games and no doubt Ill be buying a PS3 especially for GT5, those screens look amazing! If they have the F2007, surely they have a road ferrari license also?

As for PC racing- Even though its mostly fantasy (It does have the BMW F1.06 and the Formula BMW junior cars) Id highly recommend live for speed for a brilliant driving and online racing experience.

Iv just had a 10 lap pitstop race in a 911 gt2 type cars with my FF wheel, having to manage tyres with door to door racing was awesome!


there are several Ferrari's in the game...

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Ferrari 512BB '76
Ferrari 599 '06
Ferrari F40 '92
Ferrari F430 '06

#11 Hacklerf

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 00:48

:eek:

#12 Raelene

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 01:26

I can't wait until the real version comes out (my husband has been using the Japanese prolog version) - that way I might get rid of the 6 PS2 and 6 TVs and 6 Steering wheels out of my garage and instead of playing lan, they can all sit in their own homes and play online

#13 Menace

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 02:05

Already on the shopping list. The Demo alone has brought hours upon hours of fun for me. The game will be great! :up:

#14 kamix

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 02:35

That F40 ... drool. :up: This is what I bought a ps3 for. None of this F1 Championship crap (worst F1 game I've played).

#15 Leonsito

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 03:05

The BMW pics are fake, at this moment the F2007 is the only F1 car in the game.

#16 MCH

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 03:15

Yup those comparisson pics are very nice and all but you won't be seeing models this detailed, whilst playing the game, for some time to come! Consoles and PC's just aren't up for this yet. These images were probably made in some sort of photo/garage mode, still pretty impressive.

For those claiming the GT series is the best simulator, try your hand at sims like GTR2 or GPL I say. These have a far more convincing driving model but truth be told they do lack in gameplay compared to the GT series (which is so damn addicitive).

#17 Imperial

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 03:36

Originally posted by tahadar
NO. WAY. thats absolutely amazing!!! mmmmmmmm nurmburgring :love:


The OLD Nurburgring?

No way mate!

Do you realise how tight it is to get a licence to put F1 in your product?

You'll only be able to use the F1 cars on the available circuits that acutally featured in the 2007 F1 season.

#18 Raelene

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 03:39

In the japanese prologue they had the Ferrari 599 and Ferrari F430

MCH - you will be surprised....

#19 MCH

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 04:01

Originally posted by Raelene
MCH - you will be surprised....


On which part? :)

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#20 Menace

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 04:03

Originally posted by Raelene

MCH - you will be surprised....


Indeed, I hope you have atleast played the Demo on a true HDTV before you made that comment MSC. The graphics will be second to none, and the true power of the PS3 is only starting to show! Even in the demo the car models are absolutely fantastic. It's one of those games you turn on for the first time and your jaw drops when you see the Supra in the beginning. :) For what it is worth, the first pic of the Ferrari by spwolf looks to be from in game.

#21 MCH

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 04:12

Oh I know the graphics will be very good, my comment was specifically about the comparison shots. Those aren't the same models as shown when you're actually riding around a track. It's good material to get mouths to water and create some extra hype :)

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 06:30

I'll stick to rFactor and GTR and enjoy proper racing! :up:

#23 kamix

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 09:54

Originally posted by F575 GTC
I'll stick to rFactor and GTR and enjoy proper racing! :up:


Is there an RH mod out for rfactor yet?

#24 Menace

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 18:29

Originally posted by F575 GTC
I'll stick to rFactor and GTR and enjoy proper racing! :up:


I own both, and they are lots of fun too. :) However, I am more excited over GT5 then either of the above games. Your welcome to your opinion, but GT5 is going to be a hell of a lot fun IMO. Driving the RW drive cars with no TC and the right tires is a lot of fun, and the physics are much improved IMO. You can powerslide like crazy through the twisty S, and delivering the power is not as simplified as some of you think. :)

I think Im going to buy a G25 just for this game, of course it will also become handy on GTR2 and rFactor, but by now those are quite old games. Either way, I am more excited about this game then I was about GTR2 which proved to be a great racing game.

#25 Menace

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 18:35

Couple of nice vids, the latter with a multiview on a player using G25 on GT5 Prologue. :)



http://www.youtube.c...feature=related :up:

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 18:43

Heres another good in-car video (2mins)... the detail on the cars looks fanstastic!

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related


...and an interesting comparison of FORZA2 vs. the GT5:DEMO! GT5 looks so much better in terms of car detail etc even at that early level. Also, GT5 will be 1080p @60fps. :)

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related



London in car of the Prologue. :)



#27 F575 GTC

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 00:03

Oh yeah, i'll be getting a PS3 purely for GT5 - and possibly Race Driver Grid, but i'll always prefer the PC games. Hopefully GTR3 will see the light of day, saying that though - the new Blimey! Games Ferrari project looks bloody good too!

#28 Raelene

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 01:30

Originally posted by MCH
Oh I know the graphics will be very good, my comment was specifically about the comparison shots. Those aren't the same models as shown when you're actually riding around a track. It's good material to get mouths to water and create some extra hype :)


Have you played or seen the prologue?

#29 MCH

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 03:13

No, but I have seen seen screenshots of what the game looks like in driving mode and there's definitely a difference in the visuals compared to the replay/photo/garage mode used for the comparison shots. Not that I'm slamming them for the difference in quality, heck most games do this these days (e.g. PGR#'s).

Here's some case in point (driving mode) screenshots with observations:
http://image.com.com...2_screen041.jpg
http://image.com.com...2_screen039.jpg
-less sophisticated anti aliasing,
-where's the motion blur (can you turn this on or off?)
-depth of field not there

Anyhow, it does still look great but not mindblowingly better than its competitors. I guess it's just that I'm more impressed by eye candy in driving mode ;)

#30 Menace

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 03:29

Did you take a look at any of the videos I posted? Trust me, the AA is sharp as hell with a true HDTV @ 1080 . :) Some of the pics you linked from Gamespot dont do justice, and look like they were possibly 720p? Another month or so and Prologue will be out here in US. :)

#31 Menace

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 03:33

Check this out, from GDC 2008 http://www.gametrail...ayer/31122.html

and this http://www.gametrail...ayer/31104.html

:smoking:

#32 Ricardo F1

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 15:01

More F2007 :

http://kotaku.com/36...to-gran-turismo

#33 MCH

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 17:26

Yes Menace, those videos look all fine and well, but the resolution makes it impossible to judge any HD action going on. If you can find me a genuine HD screenshot of driving mode we'll discuss further ;)

Fact remains there's a difference in what's shown in the publicity PR shots and what you see in game. I'll state again; I'd rather see them impress people with stuff that you see when driving. The amount of replay/photomode shots is overwhelming compared to actual in game stuff, wonder why?

#34 Ricardo F1

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 21:25

Originally posted by MCH
Yes Menace, those videos look all fine and well, but the resolution makes it impossible to judge any HD action going on. If you can find me a genuine HD screenshot of driving mode we'll discuss further ;)

The second link is HD - you can play the demo in 1080p on the PS3, have been able to since the PS3 US launch. The Alpine Mountain level is the demo.

(they didn't have the incockpit view IIRC though).

#35 Menace

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Posted 19 March 2008 - 03:23

Originally posted by MCH
Yes Menace, those videos look all fine and well, but the resolution makes it impossible to judge any HD action going on. If you can find me a genuine HD screenshot of driving mode we'll discuss further ;)


Alright then. Firstly, the second video in my last post IS in HD. Secondly, if you so wish, WE wont discuss this any further then (but I will continue to discuss with others ;) ), but trust me those of us that have actually played the Demo can confirm it looks just as pretty as the screens you have seen in full HD (and many of them aint "garage mode" or anything else you seem to think).

The Demo in US didn't include the inside view at all, but that alpine level along with 10+ cars is available in the demo, and it looks MUCH better then in the Gamespot screens you posted which also happen to be 1280x720... :wave:

Ricardo, you are spot on as usual. :)

#36 Raelene

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Posted 19 March 2008 - 23:15

MCH

don't wait fo the Pal version - go get the Japanese one that's been out for months...then you can come back and tell me - AFTER you've actually seen it in action.....because I have...

#37 Menace

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 01:55

From Gamespots preview of the GT5 Prologue, dated today...

As expected, the graphics in Gran Turismo 5 Prologue are of the highest quality, particularly when it comes to the cars. Every single piece of the exterior designs appears to have been modeled perfectly, and the lighting and environments reflect off of the bodywork in an extremely convincing manner. It really is possible to look at the game in certain conditions and believe that you're looking at a real video, which makes it all the more tragic that the game has no photo mode. Likewise, it's a real shame that the game doesn't save replays automatically, considering that this element of the game is just as addictive as ever. Though it's difficult to see during the races themselves, the vehicles move in an extremely realistic manner, with subtle shifts in weight due to gear changes and inertia all the more noticeable on the high-resolution cars.



http://www.gamespot....087&tag=topslot;title;2&om_act=convert&om_clk=topslot

#38 Raelene

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 01:59

even the grass moves as you drive over it ;)

#39 JacnGille

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 19:01

Originally posted by Raelene
even the grass moves as you drive over it ;)


Just like in F1 Challenge???? ;)

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#40 Raelene

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Posted 22 March 2008 - 21:27

I don't know as never played that...

unlike some in here, I have only commented on the game I've actually seen in action..and played

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Posted 22 March 2008 - 22:57

Sigh...

I didn't say it looked bad, now did I? Indeed the HD video does look great, still some compression in there so slightly blurred. I'll be more specific for clarity's sake, where's the motion blur and depth of field whilst in driving mode?

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 19:42

Originally posted by Menace


Indeed, I hope you have atleast played the Demo on a true HDTV before you made that comment MSC. The graphics will be second to none, and the true power of the PS3 is only starting to show! Even in the demo the car models are absolutely fantastic. It's one of those games you turn on for the first time and your jaw drops when you see the Supra in the beginning. :) For what it is worth, the first pic of the Ferrari by spwolf looks to be from in game.


I have the demo and play it on a 50" Panasonic 750U 1080p plasma over HDMI with the PS3 set to output 1080p, and I can say with certainty that the in-game car models exhibit zero anti-aliasing. Kind of disappointment really. I would also guess that every single "screenshot" in this thread has been photoshopped to kill off the aliased edges. Perhaps the Prologue playback mode uses copius quantities of AA?

The "power" of the PS3 will hopefully be showcased by the physics calculations in GT5 - the cell proc has very little impact on what the gfx chipset can do. I would rather have 60fps and a killer sim than anything else.

And :eek: to the inclusion of the F2007.

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Posted 28 March 2008 - 14:04

Originally posted by jhodges


I have the demo and play it on a 50" Panasonic 750U 1080p plasma over HDMI with the PS3 set to output 1080p, and I can say with certainty that the in-game car models exhibit zero anti-aliasing. Kind of disappointment really. I would also guess that every single "screenshot" in this thread has been photoshopped to kill off the aliased edges. Perhaps the Prologue playback mode uses copius quantities of AA?

The "power" of the PS3 will hopefully be showcased by the physics calculations in GT5 - the cell proc has very little impact on what the gfx chipset can do. I would rather have 60fps and a killer sim than anything else.

And :eek: to the inclusion of the F2007.


Got my copy today, loaded it (takes 15mins) then updated it (takes about 45mins) then hit the tracks.

It is A W E S O M E !

Online play is cool too.

I have a 42" full 1080p Panasonic Plasma - the graphics are excellent - smooth and sharp.

Just got to get me 2,000,000 credits now to get that F2007. Only 1,923,500 to go....

If anyone wants to meet me online for a challange my ID is 'beezlebob'

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Posted 31 March 2008 - 12:01

I'd add you - TMLS313 I am - but don't think we can do friend racing yet, can we? Made my online debut last night on it, with an immediate win at Daytona. The kiddies don't know how to race on an oval!

#45 Raelene

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 03:02

you can't do friend racing - you can race online but it's random.

I've now got both versions of the Prologue

Keep practicing - 9n 2005 and 2006 - my husband went to the Electronic Sports World Cup in Paris and represented NZ in the GT tournament (wasn't held last year as GT wasn't available on PS3) - good prize money available, in 2006 US$40K

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 17:50

Yup - your're both right. Can't have private races or anything like that. Just random. Nevermind. Perhaps in the future they'll add this feature.

#47 Matt Hughes

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Posted 04 April 2008 - 14:03

I had a quick whirl with the F2007 last night - it felt nice, but a little floaty. Perhaps playing using a G25 would solve that slightly ;).

Another thing that bothers me slightly is the amount of tyre smoke you get from cornering at speed in the thing. Not particularly authentic :drunk:

#48 Bluesmoke

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 18:38

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Someone posted some shots of the F2007 in action.

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#49 reason42

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Posted 06 April 2008 - 22:05

Originally posted by Matt Hughes
I had a quick whirl with the F2007 last night - it felt nice, but a little floaty. Perhaps playing using a G25 would solve that slightly ;).

Another thing that bothers me slightly is the amount of tyre smoke you get from cornering at speed in the thing. Not particularly authentic :drunk:


Hats off to you. I've just got my A class license. You must either be really skilled and flew through the game or have a lot of spare time! :D

#50 Raelene

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 21:31

Originally posted by reason42
Yup - your're both right. Can't have private races or anything like that. Just random. Nevermind. Perhaps in the future they'll add this feature.


I believe it wiall be in the full version