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#1 jonpollak

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 16:51

All that talk of Ron going... now it's Jean bailing from his CEO role...
http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/65884

HA

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#2 Owen

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 16:57

:eek:

#3 F1 Tor.

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 16:57

I wonder if he still tapes his fingers? Anyway, 15 years is a long time and it's on to other things within the company. :wave:

#4 Ricardo F1

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 16:59

:eek: :eek:

#5 Domination

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 17:02

Bye bye.

#6 Jhope

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 17:04

Gotta say. I am and I'm not surprised. He's been doing this for 15 years, close to the age of retiring and enjoying life, but at the same time, he bleeds Ferrari, and will at least stay on the BOD.


BTW, can anyone else see him go back to Peugot to help with the LMS program?

#7 archstanton

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 17:05

so what does "Sport Management" mean in terms of running f1 teams?

has domenicali got himself a new gaffer?

#8 Domination

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 17:06

Ferrari being jingoistic and making themselves an all Italian team. The first race of 2008 shows the results.

#9 karlth

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 17:07

Goodbye Jean Todt. You are a fierce competitor.

Now Ferrari can move unhindered forward to the early 90s again.

#10 d246

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 17:09

Never a fan of the man, although you can't argue with the success he brought Ferrari. Perhaps not so much to the sport.

#11 MarkWRX

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 17:11

This just in...Ron Dennis is still the Chairman and CEO of his company. Jean Todt...not so much.

Gratuitous joke aside, Jean Todt did an excellent job pulling the sometimes kicking and screaming Ferrari F1 team from their doldrums to their near-domination of the sport.

Now, I think, it's a little like Domination says...Ferrari want to be an Italian company.

I am sure that Jean Todt will have no trouble finding things to do.

#12 Arion

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 17:14

Originally posted by karlth
Goodbye Jean Todt. You are a fierce competitor.

Now Ferrari can move unhindered forward to the early 90s again.


He will end up in the FIA soon, and that would be worse than having him in Ferrari :(

#13 archstanton

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 17:21

the report says, he stays on the board, is still the ferrari FIA delegate and has a role for Sports Management

wouldn't say he is exactly out ... it's not clear whether this is a made-up, sideways role, on his way to getting pushed out the door, or it's a real job that he pushed for, bored of CEO, and wants to go back racing.


maybe an imaginary job, just to keep his eye in, and his foot in the door, to give max a run for his money for the big job.

#14 Sébastien

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 17:22

Come the guy isn't dead, he's just on to other things.

The fact that he will continue to represent Ferrari at the FIA World Council might be a signal that he'll run for FIA president in 2009. :up:

#15 Chiara

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 17:22

Originally posted by Domination
Ferrari being jingoistic and making themselves an all Italian team. The first race of 2008 shows the results.


What a stupid comment, for a start the Gestione Sportiva is not all Italian :rolleyes: it has people from many nationalities working there. One bad result does not make a bad team make. Just as one person doesn't make a team.

Good Luck to JT, I'm not a particular fan of the man, but can't deny he brought great success to the Gestione Sportiva during his 15 years at the Helm - and am grateful for that. Now hopefully he will have more time to dedicate to his private life, friends and family.

#16 Scudetto

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 17:26

Wow. :eek: Didn't see that coming. But...

Having accomplished these tasks, a new phase of my life has now begun in which I will have more time to dedicate to myself and my other interests.



"Other interests"=
http://img138.images...525/yeohbc5.jpg[/IMG]
Who can find fault with that? ;) :up:


Thanks for everything, Jean. :up: :up:

#17 Ricardo F1

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 17:32

Originally posted by SĂ©bastien
The fact that he will continue to represent Ferrari at the FIA World Council might be a signal that he'll run for FIA president in 2009. :up:

I think it makes that all the more likely. . . . something I'm torn over I have to say. If Jean can be independent he'll be a massive improvement over Mosley - that's a bit IF though.

#18 Domination

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 17:34

Oh god, we don't want another blatantly pro-ferrari, anti mclaren person in the president's chair.

#19 Domination

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 17:34

Originally posted by Scudetto
Wow. :eek: Didn't see that coming. But...



"Other interests"=
http://img138.images...525/yeohbc5.jpg[/IMG]
Who can find fault with that? ;) :up:


Thanks for everything, Jean. :up: :up:


I personally think she looks like a man. But that's my opinion.

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#20 alg7_munif

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 17:37

The thread title should say "Jean Todt fired?" like the other thread about Ron Dennis :rolleyes:

#21 Mika Mika

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 17:37

Originally posted by Scudetto
Wow. :eek: Didn't see that coming. But...



"Other interests"=
http://img138.images...525/yeohbc5.jpg[/IMG]
Who can find fault with that? ;) :up:


Thanks for everything, Jean. :up: :up:


I wander what attracted her to the Multi Millionaire Jean Todt. ;) ;)

#22 Yellowmc

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 17:40

Originally posted by Mika Mika
I wander what attracted her to the Multi Millionaire Jean Todt. ;) ;)


I've heard stories about his abnormally large...........bank account.

#23 AFCA

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 17:42

The statement reads he's been given special appointments in the sports management, so other than Todt no longer being responsable for the roadcar side of things, not much has changed since he had already his seat as F1 boss last year anyway...

Originally posted by Domination
Oh god, we don't want another blatantly pro-ferrari, anti mclaren person in the president's chair.


Could you stop posting on this board, you're contribution is absolutely 0,0.

#24 Hames Junt

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 17:43

Well after the confirmations and rumours on here today, what are the chances of this in 2009....

Todt Grand Prix ran by Jean & Nicolas Todt, with Ferrari enginges in the car and with Massa & Bourdais as drivers?

#25 FLB

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 17:43

Originally posted by Arion


He will end up in the FIA soon, and that would be worse than having him in Ferrari :(

That's what I think as well. Mosley said yesterday he might want another term at the FIA. I thought the timing of Max's annoucement was strange, but he must have known the Ferrari board had a meeting today. Could Max have said he might remain to try and see if Todt was serious about going to the FIA?

#26 Scudetto

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 17:44

Originally posted by Mika Mika

I wander what attracted her to the Multi Millionaire Jean Todt. ;) ;)


Well, it is what it is. She's fairly successful in her own right, don't forget.

At least credit the man for not adopting Flavio's love for thong bathing suits.

#27 Enkei

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 18:08

So another Italian placed in an important position.
Wonder what this brings Ferrari.

Their all Italian line-ups haven't been that positive for their results.

#28 jonpollak

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 18:09

Originally posted by alg7_munif
The thread title should say "Jean Todt fired?" like the other thread about Ron Dennis :rolleyes:

Oh no it shouldn't have...
I ain't like those lip smacking, schadenfreude bastards.

Jp

#29 shonguiz

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 18:10

Too much fuss for nothing the guy already passed out to dominicalli, if he moreover resign as ceo won't change things that much.

#30 LostProphet

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 18:30

This won't change much, if anything at Ferrari F1 I would imagine. Though if he's going to be even more removed from the company, how easy will it be for Domenicali to consult JT if he should need to?

Whatever, all the best to him. He's made an awful lot of money doing what he does phenomenally well. Can't say I ever liked his public attitude, but you can't argue with results!

#31 quasi C

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 18:32

Not news for Ferrari followers, it's part of the ongioing stepping down plan he started in 2006. Cue veiled and not so veiled anti-Italian comments...oh wait it's already too late.

#32 Orin

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 18:36

Originally posted by Domination
Oh god, we don't want another blatantly pro-ferrari, anti mclaren person in the president's chair.


* shivers *
* Holds out hope that even the spineless WMSC might stand up to Mosley if this were put to them *

He was good for Ferrari but I won't be sorry to see to last of him.

#33 Sébastien

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 18:38

Originally posted by Ricardo F1
I think it makes that all the more likely. . . . something I'm torn over I have to say. If Jean can be independent he'll be a massive improvement over Mosley - that's a bit IF though.

Any new FIA president will acknowledge the very special position of Ferrari in F1 and act on it, be it Mosley, Todt, Flavio or whomever the FIA delegates chose, so I am afraid there's no pleasing you (lot) here. :lol:

#34 BuonoBruttoCattivo

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 18:40

Jean Todt is running for Prime Minister of Italy.... :eek:

#35 macoran

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 18:41

Ferrari wants to become an "Italian" team again..............................
sweep out the foreign trash...................and go back to losing big way as
they did in the past...............another couple of years without titles.

#36 Sébastien

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 18:47

Originally posted by Orin
* Holds out hope that even the spineless WMSC might stand up to Mosley if this were put to them *

The WMSC doesn't elect the FIA president the General Assembly does.

Seems that you and Jackie -halfwit- Stewart are competing for who is the most clueless on how the sport is governed. ;)

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 18:57

Originally posted by d246
Never a fan of the man, although you can't argue with the success he brought Ferrari. Perhaps not so much to the sport.

My feelings exactly. Others come and go but RD is still there! :wave:

#38 Mika Mika

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 18:58

For everyone who is worried, i think it's highly unlikly that Jean of Flavio will become FIA President, I think a lawyer of some sort will take over!!

#39 Ricardo F1

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 19:08

Originally posted by SĂ©bastien
Any new FIA president will acknowledge the very special position of Ferrari in F1 and act on it, be it Mosley, Todt, Flavio or whomever the FIA delegates chose, so I am afraid there's no pleasing you (lot) here. :lol:

Then they aren't qualified to be in that position. From a sporting regulations / FIA standpoint Ferrari is no different to anyone in the pitlane. From a FOCA point of view Ferrari are special.

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#40 Chiara

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 19:16

Give the poor man a break! He isn't 25 anymore, he has spent years and years working god knows what horrendous hours as a team boss and ceo, maybe he might like to actually take things a little bit easier and enjoy life before you all condemn him to live out his natural life in the FIA!

:p

#41 QdfV

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 19:30

Thanks Jean! Your success and accomplishments in F1 with Ferrari are second to none, job well done and you deserve nothing but our admiration for it. :up:

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 19:31

Originally posted by Enkei
So another Italian placed in an important position.
Wonder what this brings Ferrari.


You clearly never head of Felisa then, he's been with Ferrari for 18 years, he's had an important position for at least 10 years and I don't think the brand did so bad with cars like the F430, the Enzo and the 599 GTB introduced under his guidance...

#43 Orin

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 20:05

Originally posted by SĂ©bastien

The WMSC doesn't elect the FIA president the General Assembly does.

Seems that you and Jackie -halfwit- Stewart are competing for who is the most clueless on how the sport is governed. ;)


Au contraire: "Badly" would seem to suffice. :p

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 20:07

Jean, my absolute favourite of the 'management' dream team an amazing person, a fantastic leader of Ferrari and a man that very much deserves his place in history.

I think it is telling that those that fought against him loath him. Those that fought with him will not hear a bad word said about the man.

He may be a little frenchman, but he achieved huge success in all that he turned his hand to. I don't know about anyone else but I don't believe for a minute even Michael could have achieved all that he did without Jean.

:up: :up: I will miss seeing your ribbed red sweater in the 40 degree summer heat Jean!

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 21:15

Originally posted by AFCA


You clearly never head of Felisa then, he's been with Ferrari for 18 years, he's had an important position for at least 10 years and I don't think the brand did so bad with cars like the F430, the Enzo and the 599 GTB introduced under his guidance...


I googled him up, but what I meant was the racing department ofcourse.
I wonder if the recent changes in key personnel has any consequences for their competitivity on the track.

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 21:21

Originally posted by Enkei


I googled him up, but what I meant was the racing department ofcourse.
I wonder if the recent changes in key personnel has any consequences for their competitivity on the track.


I sincerely doubt it, a team boss is a manager first and foremost. He doesn't require any technical expertise.

Secondly, its not like Jean Todt said "right that's it I'm off find yourself another Team Boss" Ferrari have been under his leadership for years been building up the team below him to take on greater responsibility and challenges. Stefano Domenicali didn't just walk in at the beginning of the year completely clueless, he has spent years as an understudy to Todt in the Gestione Sportiva.

We have one race where they cocked it up, just one...I don't think that's indicative of anything.....even teams who haven't had a change in management cock it up occasionally it's the nature of the sport.

#47 Lada Lover

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 21:26

This news is a bit surprising. Maybe JT is returning to the race team at Ferrari.

#48 AFCA

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 21:30

Originally posted by Enkei


I googled him up, but what I meant was the racing department ofcourse.
I wonder if the recent changes in key personnel has any consequences for their competitivity on the track.


Felisa has nothing to do with the race department.

Under most of the 'recent' (well a year old now) changes, they collected two worldtitles.

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 22:07

Originally posted by karlth
Goodbye Jean Todt. You are a fierce competitor.

Now Ferrari can move unhindered forward to the early 90s again.


Isn't that great?
;)

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 22:26

The guy has been fantastically successful at pretty much everything he's done professionally. I think he, Nicolas and Schumi should buy Toro Rosso together and create another superteam.