Will you lose interest in F1 if it continues to be a Ferrari 1-2 all season?
#1
Posted 29 April 2008 - 22:49
I will still watch it because the fight for the third place looks very tight with equally matched BMW and McLaren.
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#2
Posted 29 April 2008 - 23:16
Plus I'm enjoying BMW's rise to near the top. Surely a win will happen this year. Been a big Heidfeld fan since he entered F1 so I'd be annoyed with myself if I'd stopped watching and he finally took his first victory.
#3
Posted 29 April 2008 - 23:19
Originally posted by wllsfjrch
Plus I'm enjoying BMW's rise to near the top.
That's very optimistic considering Ferrari's current form. The best result can hope for is 2nd if and when Massa has a bad race and even then they will have to fight it out with McLarens.
#4
Posted 29 April 2008 - 23:26
#5
Posted 29 April 2008 - 23:31
#6
Posted 29 April 2008 - 23:46
Originally posted by MOOT
That's very optimistic considering Ferrari's current form. The best result can hope for is 2nd if and when Massa has a bad race and even then they will have to fight it out with McLarens.
That's why I said near the top. They are still facing a major step to get to the level of challenging the Ferraris but one crazy wet race could make anything happen.
#7
Posted 30 April 2008 - 00:09
#8
Posted 30 April 2008 - 00:10
edit: Losing interest isn't the same as stop watching the races, but, for example, I won't try so hard to stay up so late for the fly-away qualifying sessions and races.
#9
Posted 30 April 2008 - 00:53
#10
Posted 30 April 2008 - 00:54
Originally posted by StefanV
I have lost count already. How many 1-2's have they this far?
2 Bahrain and Spain.
#11
Posted 30 April 2008 - 01:10
Then I might as well answer the question. I am still watching it after 2002 & 2004, so I guess I will not lose interest completely, but I will certainly lose some interest. Just as I did 2002. But what made me lose some of my interest was not Ferrari dominating, it was the cynicism that became so apparent. Both from Ferrari itself but also from FIA. Like Lance Armstrong dominating TdF for a whole eternity, that was not problem for me until the doping rumors. I think sport is about how you win, how honest you play. If it is not a honest play the win means nothing and the competition is therefore meaningless.
#12
Posted 30 April 2008 - 05:19
#13
Posted 30 April 2008 - 05:41
I have a list of teams I like and teams I don't and ones in between (don't like them perse but would rather see them win then others) but a liked team of mine hasn't won since Brazil 04, and yet I keep watching.
Despite Ferrari winning, there is some good battles. Last season it was a 4 car race for the win, this year it seems a 2 car race. This isn't the best but there is a tasty 4 car battle between McLaren and BMW, and there is a delicious 6 or so car battle between Toyota, Renault, Red Bull, Williams, and Honda look to have joined the back of it as well.
#14
Posted 30 April 2008 - 06:55
Dominance happens in all sports. This year at least the whole field behind the top 2-3 teams has closed up somewhat. So how things pan out each race is worth watching.
#15
Posted 30 April 2008 - 07:12
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Posted 30 April 2008 - 07:15
#17
Posted 30 April 2008 - 07:37
#18
Posted 30 April 2008 - 07:46
Anything can happen in F1, and usally does...
#19
Posted 30 April 2008 - 07:47
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#20
Posted 30 April 2008 - 07:58
I'm a Ferrari fan so I can't complain!
Rather than domination by one team, it's the difficulty to overtake on some tracks that makes F1 dull at times, like a procession.
Of course races won't be as exciting when one team is dominating, but it'll take quite a lot to make me lose interest in a sport I've loved for so long!
#21
Posted 30 April 2008 - 08:19
Originally posted by Atreiu
Yes, obviously.
edit: Losing interest isn't the same as stop watching the races, but, for example, I won't try so hard to stay up so late for the fly-away qualifying sessions and races.
It agree with this, I'll still watch the races, but I wouldn't bother to follow all the practice/Qualifying sessions so religiously.
In 2002/2004 I watched all the races, the only dominant season that I've misses races in since the early 1980's was 1992, because I couldn't stand the moustached Whinger.
#22
Posted 30 April 2008 - 08:41
#23
Posted 30 April 2008 - 08:43
But the midfield fight is fantastic this year. That's the main reason I'm watching.
#24
Posted 30 April 2008 - 08:55
#25
Posted 30 April 2008 - 09:07
#26
Posted 30 April 2008 - 09:08
The Spanish Grand Prix wasn't boring because it was a Ferrari one-two, it was boring because there were only two changes of position on track that the cameras caught after the first lap. One was a BMW passing a Force India, the other was a Red Bull passing a Super Aguri.
Whether you blame the aerodynamics, the refuelling rules, or the circuits (I tend to blame the first two) something has to be done and, hoepfully, is being done for next year.
#27
Posted 30 April 2008 - 12:42
Originally posted by wllsfjrch
Not a Ferrari fan but if they are clearly going to be miles ahead of the rest all season I'll still watch as long as the two drivers are still allowed to race one another. I have to admit I missed a few GPs toward the end of 2002 when Schumacher was so dominant on his own.
Plus I'm enjoying BMW's rise to near the top. Surely a win will happen this year. Been a big Heidfeld fan since he entered F1 so I'd be annoyed with myself if I'd stopped watching and he finally took his first victory.
Second that. Plus id like to see Hamilton and Kovi battle it out a bit, even if it is behind the ferraris. Also hope Alonso gets on the podium, and beats a mclaren at some point.
#28
Posted 30 April 2008 - 12:46
Agree.Originally posted by F1Fanatic.co.uk
No - it's not about who wins, it's about the excitement of the contest.
The Spanish Grand Prix wasn't boring because it was a Ferrari one-two, it was boring because there were only two changes of position on track that the cameras caught after the first lap. One was a BMW passing a Force India, the other was a Red Bull passing a Super Aguri.
Whether you blame the aerodynamics, the refuelling rules, or the circuits (I tend to blame the first two) something has to be done and, hoepfully, is being done for next year.
#29
Posted 30 April 2008 - 12:58
However, if it continues next year.. Well, who knows?
#30
Posted 30 April 2008 - 13:13
#31
Posted 30 April 2008 - 14:24
Originally posted by Atreiu
By the way, watching the races only to see who's 3rd sounds as exciting as trading sex for masturbation.
Quite exciting then
#32
Posted 30 April 2008 - 16:06
#33
Posted 30 April 2008 - 16:19
#34
Posted 30 April 2008 - 16:31
#35
Posted 30 April 2008 - 16:55
Originally posted by Atreiu
By the way, watching the races only to see who's 3rd sounds as exciting as trading sex for masturbation.
So true, sadly.
#36
Posted 30 April 2008 - 19:36
If Raikkonen and Massa deliver another 1987 or 1989: Definitely no.Originally posted by MOOT
Will you lose interest in F1 if it continues to be a Ferrari 1-2 all season?
If they deliver another 2002: Probably yes.
#37
Posted 30 April 2008 - 19:37
Worse. Its like trading sex for playing golf.Originally posted by Atreiu
By the way, watching the races only to see who's 3rd sounds as exciting as trading sex for masturbation.
#38
Posted 30 April 2008 - 19:39
#39
Posted 30 April 2008 - 20:12
I also want to see Ferrari keep on dominating this new millenium as they have been doing so far.
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#40
Posted 30 April 2008 - 20:21
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Posted 30 April 2008 - 21:00
#42
Posted 30 April 2008 - 21:55
Originally posted by Fatgadget
No.I was captivated the year Maclaren nearly pulled off a whitewash.Man that was some season
That season was terribly dull, I thought. But more because the Ferraris had pretty much locked out positions three and four. IMO they'd have done much better to promote the battle for the Jim Clark Cup and dismiss the Mclarens as very fast dinosaurs.
#43
Posted 04 May 2008 - 11:10
Yeah, Kimi's lead is 9 points but only one technical retirement can change it.
#44
Posted 04 May 2008 - 11:40
Originally posted by wllsfjrch
Not a Ferrari fan but if they are clearly going to be miles ahead of the rest all season I'll still watch as long as the two drivers are still allowed to race one another. I have to admit I missed a few GPs toward the end of 2002 when Schumacher was so dominant on his own.
Plus I'm enjoying BMW's rise to near the top. Surely a win will happen this year. Been a big Heidfeld fan since he entered F1 so I'd be annoyed with myself if I'd stopped watching and he finally took his first victory.
Even if some of the races are striaght forward, one of the best things about 2002 was the qualifying sessions, because the Williams was using it's tyres up bascially for qualifying, and it was a match and at times better for getting a one lap hotlap then the ferrari, and Montoya scored quite a few poles, the quali sessions in 2002 were very cool.
When a car is dominating on Sunday, don't mean Saturdays are boring, and 2002 we still had the old 12 lap qualifying format.
It's the quali format that ruins the delight of a session, now it's all geared for the race.
Monaco qualifying sessions were awesome, one lap quali ruined it, current formate makes it better then one lap quali, but we get what we get.
#45
Posted 04 May 2008 - 11:44
Originally posted by SeanValen
It's the quali format that ruins the delight of a session, now it's all geared for the race.
Which sounds perfectly fine, IMO. To me quali is relatively unimportant compared to the race.
...or, should be. Nowadays one lap in Q3 can make more difference than 1.5 hours of racing
If we had cars that can pass each other, there would be less complaining about qualifying format.
#46
Posted 04 May 2008 - 11:49
#47
Posted 04 May 2008 - 12:21
Which is why (one of) the first thing said to Raikkonen after he won the Spanish GP was a congratulation on his great qualifying lap the day before. Oh well.Originally posted by Spunout
Nowadays one lap in Q3 can make more difference than 1.5 hours of racing
#48
Posted 04 May 2008 - 14:48
#49
Posted 05 May 2008 - 10:43
Firstly, this season is definitely not over. Last season, the balance between different teams changed dramatically from one race to the next. I am quite sure that we will see races where McLaren will dominate over Ferrari. Further, there are still some question marks over Ferrari reliability...
Secondly, even if one team did dominate over the whole season, the races can be still exciting. Kimi and Massa seem to be able to genuinely race against each other (at least until the final pitstops). Further, racing in the midpack can still be very exciting.
So my answer is: I wouldn't lose my interest nor stop watching the races.
#50
Posted 05 May 2008 - 11:42