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#1 kosmos

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 16:04

I made a search but find anything about it. Sorry in case is already commented.

Look at this video:

http://www.dailymoti...e-rtr-uynj_auto

Ron Dennis :down:



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#2 steelyman

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 16:15

link not working for me.

what is the video about??

#3 Buttoneer

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 16:18

Originally posted by kosmos
I made a search but find anything about it. Sorry in case is already commented.

Look at this video:

The real link

Ron Dennis :down:

Fixed so we all know what you're trolling about.

#4 MarkWRX

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 16:20

Your link doesn't seem to work, for me at least. However, copying and pasting the link into a browser will work.

I was waiting for someone to post about that. I saw it on SpeedTV and I commented to my wife that Ron Dennis is going to catch some flak over that comment.

I don't think he meant it in in any way to be hurtful toward Robert Kubitsa - but it was a poor attempt at humor and he did clarify that it was only a joke.

No more hurtful, I think, than the repeated comments about DC's head, Ronspeak, the "Many Moods of Kimi" poster, etc.

For those of you wondering and too lazy to watch the video - Ron Dennis was being interviewed on the grid by Peter Windsor and Windsor asked him if BMW's program to get Kubitsa to drop about 10Kg was something that McLaren would be interested in. Ron replied "Well, he could lose a lot more weight if he had his nose done."

Personally, I am thinking another $100,000,000 fine for McLaren and new FIA program called AnyNose.

#5 Fatgadget

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 16:24

He is an oik garagista oily rag done good that is what's wRONg Dennis! :D

#6 Fatgadget

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 16:27

Originally posted by MarkWRX


Personally, I am thinking another $100,000,000 fine for McLaren and new FIA program called AnyNose.


May I suggest HooterGate! :lol:

#7 kosmos

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 16:36

Originally posted by Buttoneer

Fixed so we all know what you're trolling about.



:rotfl:

#8 Blot

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 16:39

kosmos

Don't go there. I had a thread about racism in F1 deleted and that clip was in my thread.

It's some sort of tabu here to bring up racism.

#9 kismet

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 16:42

Possibly because that clip has rather little to do with racism.

#10 Nadsat

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 16:49

Originally posted by kismet
Possibly because that clip has rather little to do with racism.


I would call it 'noseism'...

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 16:50

the link not working for me too.

#12 Orin

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 16:52

Originally posted by Nadsat


I would call it 'noseism'...


It certainly sheds light (mucus?) on the Senna/Prost years.

#13 se7en_24

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 16:57

Originally posted by Blot
kosmos

Don't go there. I had a thread about racism in F1 deleted and that clip was in my thread.

It's some sort of tabu here to bring up racism.

Are you suggesting all Polish people have big noses?

RACIST!!!

#14 shaggy

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 17:03

It turned out to be a poor attempt at a joke. A bad joke.
Nothing to see here. Move on.

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#15 SevenTwoSeven

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 17:18

I recall reading somthing in autosports pre season with the 'experts' thing about 'no more scandals to be called gates (as in spygate, watergate, gareth gates, and so on) as its cheap journalism' (or words to that effect) but so far weve had 'spankgate', so will this be 'nosegate' ?

I suppose if it was of some importance maybe :cat:

#16 Chiara

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 17:27

I'm sorry but should someone with such a shiny slaphead really be making comments about others physical appearance? :lol: glasses house and all that.

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 17:31

Good thing Tony Kanaan isnt in F1... :p

#18 F1_conman

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 17:59

Originally posted by Nadsat


I would call it 'noseism'...


I like that - Noseism sounds good :up:

Noseist - person having a problem with people w/ large noses, making discriminatory comments towards people w/ large noses

noseistic - adj. describing a person with discriminatory tendencies towards people w/ large noses

Nose cone - aerodynamic feature, part of the F1 driver helmet that enhances aerodynamic flow around driver's cockpit

Nose winglets - part of F1 car designed to direct the air flow around the Nose cone and further beyond the engine cover (see F1.08 Nose winglets - from this you can deduct this car was especially tailored towards Mr. Kubica).

and on and on and on...

/in my defense - I'll write anything to kill the boredom filling the space from one GP to another/

#19 VoidNT

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 18:03

Typical Ron Dennis type of humor, of the same kind as "premature ejaculation" and "Ronald McDonald" pieces. A bit childish, but this childishness keeps him from more trouble. For example he could have said something like: "Our drivers are so fit and light that to lose some more weight we would need to send them to concentration camp", which in current state of F1 affairs would have caused an uproar :D

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#20 VoidNT

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 18:06

Originally posted by Slowinfastout
Good thing Tony Kanaan isnt in F1... :p


Probably that's why he isn't in F1, it's full of noseists-elitists!

#21 Mrv

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 18:16

It was a joke for crying out loud. Move on. :rolleyes: Are we going to start a nosegate now?

#22 lukywill

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 18:20

:mad: dennis should step out at once! poor kubica, being such a elitist pole driver moked like that!111111111

:lol:

#23 lukywill

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 18:24

btw! anyone view on itv hamilton punch haug's belly?!1111

who do he think he is? senna?!

#24 lettuce

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 18:32

Originally posted by se7en_24

Are you suggesting all Polish people have big noses?

RACIST!!!


:lol:

#25 F1_conman

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 18:34

Originally posted by lettuce


:lol:


hey - you know what they say large nose, large you know what..... :lol:

#26 F575 GTC

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 19:07

Originally posted by F1_conman


hey - you know what they say large nose, large you know what..... :lol:


Sneezes ;)

#27 bankoq

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 19:10

Originally posted by lukywill
btw! anyone view on itv hamilton punch haug's belly?!1111

who do he think he is? senna?!


What? Please find a link, I want see this one :)

#28 MarkWRX

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 19:33

Originally posted by Orin


It certainly sheds light (mucus?) on the Senna/Prost years.


Actually, Prost's nose was used as a turning vane. Approaching a left turn, he would lift the visor on his helmet and the aerodynamic forces hitting his (previously broken) nose would turn the car left from the center of the McLaren chassis. It was so effective that Ron suggested it be broken again and reset straight to it could be a movable turning vane.

It can be revealed, many years later, that Ferrari protested this and the FIA put in some rules.

It's the truth, I tell you, the truth!

#29 ZZMS

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 20:17

just a not-so-great joke, big deal.

#30 Hippo

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 20:17

I dont get the drama. I mean the pole has a big nose and i've heard a lot of jokes about it. And i bet he did so himself.

How far are you gonna go with that argument? I mean like will you start a thread about the next one to make a joke about women at the wheel? Some people here really should get a life...

#31 dawg_7529

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 20:59

A joke at the expense of someone elses facial features, fair enough.

But when the joke is on Dennis, like in that red bull magazine last season, it suddenly isnt so funny. Dennis ordered reporters who where reading that mag in his motorhome to leave or throw it away.

Bit poor and sad really. Thought he was a bigger man than that, especially after the kubica comment.

Then again for me he always employs double standards.

#32 Slyder

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 21:04

Originally posted by dawg_7529
A joke at the expense of someone elses facial features, fair enough.

But when the joke is on Dennis, like in that red bull magazine last season, it suddenly isnt so funny. Dennis ordered reporters who where reading that mag in his motorhome to leave or throw it away.

Bit poor and sad really. Thought he was a bigger man than that, especially after the kubica comment.

Then again for me he always employs double standards.


Oh please... :rolleyes:

#33 mclarensmps

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 21:18

Are the idiots going to make this a connection between Ron and Max now?

The internet's taken freedom of speech, and turned it into a very large vessel to spill out freedom of stupidity onto a sane few.

#34 dawg_7529

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 21:24

Originally posted by Slyder


Oh please... :rolleyes:


Forgive me a million times for having the nerve to post my opinion.

But as a team boss cracking a joke on someones facial features youd expect him to also take himself not too seriously, wich apparently he did last year with that red bull joke. People love to compare todt with napoleon but if anything was napoleonesqe, it was dennis reaction to an innocent joke on dennis expense, and not even on his facial features wich seems to incorporate a rather stiff upperlip ;)

I dread to think of what happens when jim bamber depicts him in a not so flattering way and journos start reading that in his motorhome :)

#35 color

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 21:28

Originally posted by ZZMS
just a not-so-great joke, big deal.


being (half) Polish, and having a big nose myself (well, maybe not exactly Qbi's size, but big enough:lol: ) - I don't see a big deal either. Lousy, lame and stupid joke, taht's it.

#36 prxty

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 21:30

What a poor guy is this RD. He should retire. No wait, better he stays a couple of years and destroys McLaren.

#37 Fatgadget

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 21:34

Originally posted by prxty
What a poor guy is this RD. He should retire. No wait, better he stays a couple of years and destroys McLaren.


So what if he destroys a sand castle that he built ?

#38 ashnathan

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 21:35

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHOPPER SHNOZ!

#39 Torch

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 22:02

Originally posted by prxty
What a poor guy is this RD. He should retire. No wait, better he stays a couple of years and destroys McLaren.


You have to retire after a poor joke? Man, I would have hundreds of jobs by now :p

In fact, I thnk it's time for me to get a new one now!

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#40 Perigee

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Posted 03 May 2008 - 00:21

A silly and rather embarassing comment for a grown man to make. I guess it was Ron's attempt at humour without it being scripted for him, and just came out as crass and puerile, although he did at least seem to realise this after he had said it and had the good grace to attach a "no offence" disclaimer.

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Posted 03 May 2008 - 01:27

Stupid Peter Windsor claiming the moral high ground. The guy annoys me more and more each time I hear him.

It's called a joke mate, all jokes are a little bit at someone's expense.

#42 Vegetableman

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Posted 03 May 2008 - 03:00

I do recall in F1 Racing mag (Peter Windsor anyone?) all the drivers were invited to draw their teammates.
Nick Heidfelds drawing of Bobo consisted of two parts(some) hair and nose. I don't recall anyone getting up in arms about that.
So to sum up:
Get off your god damn high horses and stop looking for ways to make Ron Dennis look bad.

#43 MarkWRX

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Posted 03 May 2008 - 04:28

Originally posted by Vegetableman
I do recall in F1 Racing mag (Peter Windsor anyone?) all the drivers were invited to draw their teammates.
Nick Heidfelds drawing of Bobo consisted of two parts(some) hair and nose. I don't recall anyone getting up in arms about that.
So to sum up:
Get off your god damn high horses and stop looking for ways to make Ron Dennis look bad.


You are quite right - I'd forgotten that but now that you remind me, I recall thinking at the time that Nick's drawing wasn't funny.

Nick needs to be banned. Or fined $100,000,000 or perhaps spend several hours speaking German with Max...in a cellar apartment somewhere...

No, wait, it's STILL Ron's fault because McLaren had Nick under retainer for many years. So it's back to Ron.

#44 Vegetableman

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Posted 03 May 2008 - 05:34

Ah of course. And now that I think about it, the MP4/20 with that big nose on it was clearly a dig at Kubica. Trying to unsettle him before he made it to F1.
I actually found nick's drawing rather funny, three cheers for maturity.

#45 glorius&victorius

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Posted 03 May 2008 - 07:16

I thought this video was much more interesting... (suggested to me after I watch ron..)
http://dailymotion.a..._flirt?from=rss

:lol:

#46 Imperial

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Posted 03 May 2008 - 07:44

Originally posted by kosmos
I made a search but find anything about it. Sorry in case is already commented.

Look at this video:

http://www.dailymoti...e-rtr-uynj_auto

Ron Dennis :down:


What's wrong with Ron Dennis? He has a sense of humour.

What's wrong with you?

#47 lukywill

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Posted 03 May 2008 - 08:56

Originally posted by bankoq


What? Please find a link, I want see this one :)




:-]

#48 RedBaron

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Posted 03 May 2008 - 09:54

It's not a big deal... but the joke was poor, lacked wit and was a little unnecessarily rude. Ron found it hilarious himself though, simple things...

As for Lewis drumming Haug's tummy, we get it. He is a fun young guy who just isn't fazed by anything! Do we have to see these cringing scenes played out with McLaren team members every race weekend... Look he's wearing over sized comedy sunglasses! What a hoot!

#49 VoidNT

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Posted 03 May 2008 - 09:57

Originally posted by lukywill




:-]


Harsh. Hamilton has clearly brought Haug's belly into disrepute in front of the cameras.

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Posted 03 May 2008 - 09:58

Well I live in a country, where people wish they had big noses, because the native people here generally have flat noses. Big noses are considered beautiful. So what? Some jokes just don't work.

Not a Dennis fan at all, but it's good someone saying something that's not fitting into the usual corporate speak.