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#1 steveninthematrix

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 05:14

my definition of a good season is when 5 drivers win a race...

and a great season, is when 6 drivers win a race....



mmmmm what do you think our chances are?


2007 - 4 race winners
2006 - 5 race winners (fisichella and button)
2005 - 5 race winners
2004 - 5 race winners
2003 - 8 race winners
2002 - 4 race winners
2001 - 5 race winners
2000 - 4 race winners
1999 - 6 race winners (HHF with 2, was a very good season IMO)
1998 - 4 race winners


....

and the record is

1982 - 11 race winners

1 John Watson 2
= Alain Prost 2
= Niki Lauda 2
= Didier Pironi 2
= René Arnoux 2
2 Michele Alboreto 1
= Patrick Tambay 1
= Riccardo Patrese 1
= Elio de Angelis 1
= Nelson Piquet 1
= Keke Rosberg 1

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#2 lukywill

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 06:10

i think there´s a pretty good chance to see at least 6 guys winning this year: ferraris, mclarens, bmw´s (or a odd win by alonso or webber).

and look at 2003: it wasn't bad at all in that respect, still ms had 6 wins, the same can happen this year with kimi getting about 8 wins...

#3 Mika Mika

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 06:25

Originally posted by lukywill
i think there´s a pretty good chance to see at least 6 guys winning this year: ferraris, mclarens, bmw´s (or a odd win by alonso or webber).

and look at 2003: it wasn't bad at all in that respect, still ms had 6 wins, the same can happen this year with kimi getting about 8 wins...


2003 was an awesome season....
The last 1/3rd was spoilt by the FIA though...

#4 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 06:30

The FIA actually did very little in 2003, but don't let that stop the witchunt.


5 winners at most this year, and we already have 3. A BMW driver might sneak a win, likewise Heikki will put an entire weekend together before the year is out. Alonso? Doubtful. Webber? No way.

#5 Mika Mika

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 06:46

Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
The FIA actually did very little in 2003, but don't let that stop the witchunt.


I'm sorry, but I disagree with your opinion.

#6 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 07:07

That's a surprise.

#7 Mika Mika

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 07:10

Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
That's a surprise.


No not really...

#8 Mika Mika

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 07:24

Sam Michael in 2003

Michael: Williams Assessing their Tyre Options

Wednesday September 3rd, 2003

Williams are still assessing their options, to determine how to adopt to the FIA's new front tyre guidelines, the team's chief operations engineer Sam Michael said today.

"It's still a bit early to judge precisely what the implication of the new rule interpretation will be," Michael told the Guardian.

"We're going to spend the next couple of days testing on the existing tyres to assess whether or not there is a way of adjusting the chassis set-up to see whether we can get away with it on the existing rubber, or what we can do to handle the situation.

"At the moment Michelin are telling us that they probably won't be able to get a full quota of new tyres available for the Monza race. It would be a pretty tall order because it involves making a total of 400 new front tyres in order to completely service their five teams."

Williams are currently leading the Constructors' Championship by eight points, ahead of Bridgestone-shod Ferrari. Moreover, Williams driver Juan Pablo Montoya is trailing Championship leader Michael Schumacher by a single point.

Yes the MID SEASON rule change did nothing...

#9 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 07:33

Except that nothing was changed and checked ;)

#10 Mika Mika

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 07:41

Yes but a good deal of development time was lost... and that's non tangable loss...

#11 tahadar

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 08:13

i bet williams would have been WCC had the FIA not messed with michelin's plans :(

#12 StefanV

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 08:21

Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
Except that nothing was changed and checked ;)

I wondered about that. Was it really so or did they just claim it was so? I never understood the whole affair. FIA said the tires was illegal, Michelin said they changed the tires, Ferrari was happy and the Michelin teams said nothing changed and Ferrari stayed happy. Also, from then on Bridgestone got the momentum back.

It was a very strange sequence of events.

#13 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 08:27

I think what happened is they got out of the European summer.

#14 Youichi

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 09:02

Originally posted by tahadar
i bet williams would have been WCC had the FIA not messed with michelin's plans :(


Williams would have been WDC and WCC if Montoya BMW hadn't blown up while he was leading races TWICE ! You can't blame that on the FIA.

#15 Mika Mika

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 09:10

Originally posted by Youichi


Williams would have been WDC and WCC if Montoya BMW hadn't blown up while he was leading races TWICE ! You can't blame that on the FIA.


True, however the race stweards decision in the USGP to give JPM a stop go penalty after Barrachello closed the door on him and then span was very questionable...

Especially as he had to then do a lap on dry tyres in the wet!!! Not excatly safety promoting!!!

#16 noikeee

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 10:44

Originally posted by steveninthematrix
my definition of a good season is when 5 drivers win a race...

and a great season, is when 6 drivers win a race....



mmmmm what do you think our chances are?


2007 - 4 race winners
2006 - 5 race winners (fisichella and button)
2005 - 5 race winners
2004 - 5 race winners
2003 - 8 race winners
2002 - 4 race winners
2001 - 5 race winners
2000 - 4 race winners
1999 - 6 race winners (HHF with 2, was a very good season IMO)
1998 - 4 race winners


Well, that's not very good evidence to present your theory of what a good season is. :) 98 was fun even with only 4 race winners. 2001 and 2004 were shit. 2007 was pretty good although the dry races tended to be boring.

As for this year...

Kimi - has won
Massa - has won
Hamilton - has won
Kubica - i think it'll happen soon
Heidfeld - 50/50 chance it'll happen, he's the man to bet in if we have a chaotic race but he needs more than just BMW being quick, Kubica will win if that happens
Kovalainen - i'm not too optimistic for some reason, I think Hamilton has looked quicker in the races and McLaren haven't convinced me. But could happen.
all others - need a crazy rain race to take out the 6 front-runners. Fairly unlikely.

I'm expecting maybe 5 winners. It'll depend on if Ferrari remain dominant throughout all season, and on how many incident-filled races will happen.

#17 steveninthematrix

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 16:41

so kubica is already the man who will always beat nick?


watch it change in turkey!!

Nick has had a few bad qualis, that is all ......

#18 postajegenye

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 16:45

Kimi, Massa, Lewis, Heikki, Hedifeld.

#19 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 21:14

Kimi
Massa
Hamilton
Kovaleinen
Kubica
Heidfeld
Alonso

That's who I'm going with.

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#20 snash

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 21:17

Originally posted by postajegenye
Kimi, Massa, Lewis, Heikki, Hedifeld.


Ditto...