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#1 Tenmantaylor

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 07:58

No one can stay on the track, Trulli, Massa, Lewis all spinning within a couple of laps of each other on itv live! Track looks really dirty and low on grip.

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#2 airwise

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 08:27

Once again the Ferrari looks awesome around here. It's becoming all rather predictable unfortunately.

I expect Kova to be the faster of the Mclaren drivers this weekend. He was impressive here last year in the Renault. Behind the Ferraris things look quite tight again which is something I suppose.

#3 cordell777

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 08:28

Kimi with gearbox problems...

#4 Digitaldrug

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 08:40

Looks like Ferrari will dominate again. Lewis looks to be struggling and was all over the place, and Heikkis laps was on softs and still slower than Massa. Alonso looks to be flying around here, almost 1 second ahead of piquet. Renaults step forward looks to be genuine.

#5 papa

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 08:53

Originally posted by Digitaldrug
Looks like Ferrari will dominate again. Lewis looks to be struggling and was all over the place, and Heikkis laps was on softs and still slower than Massa. Alonso looks to be flying around here, almost 1 second ahead of piquet. Renaults step forward looks to be genuine.


there was plenty of spinning...

race could be full of surprises

#6 Josta

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 08:55

Originally posted by cordell777
Kimi with gearbox problems...


If they have to change the gearbox, will it result in a penalty or is it like the engine where they can use a different one on friday?

#7 kar

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 08:56

They aren't using a race weekend gearbox so it's okay to change it without penalty.

#8 tidytracks

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 08:57

Originally posted by Tenmantaylor
Track looks really dirty and low on grip.


Hard compound tyres at a track where the temperature is about 15 degrees lower than the teams are used to... seems Bridgestone may have forgotten they were racing in May! Still, should make it fun!

#9 Dalton007

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 09:27

Hondas looking okay at this stage. The smooth surface is certainly helping them. :up:

#10 HONDA FANATIC

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 09:33

I hope this is dry weekend. We can finally see some good pace by Honda. maybe a point or two on merit for a change :rolleyes:

#11 as65p

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 10:20

Originally posted by HONDA FANATIC
I hope this is dry weekend. We can finally see some good pace by Honda. maybe a point or two on merit for a change :rolleyes:


I'd think that with two acknowledged wet weather specialists the chances would be even greater if it rains... the risks too, of course..

#12 stevvy1986

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 10:29

no TC,no engine braking,very cold track..........and now light rain is falling at the track!

#13 AFCA

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 10:51

Fisichella will get a 3 place penalty in qualifying because he crossed the red light of the pitlane in FP1.

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 10:52

Follow the second session live with autosport.com Live. Click the SHOW LIVE FORUM link in the red bar at the bottom of the window to chat live with forum members.

#15 Fatgadget

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 11:02

Sorry Hack.The live chat format doesn't do it for me. I guess being a one finger typist-read very slow-is the problem ):

#16 roadie

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 11:43

I like how the grass is green around the outside of the track. Certainly makes a change from when it was just mud!

#17 as65p

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 11:51

Originally posted by Fatgadget
Sorry Hack.The live chat format doesn't do it for me. I guess being a one finger typist-read very slow-is the problem ):


Most annyoing is the chat-like auto scroll of the forum window.

Having avoided Internet "chats" for 15 years now, I won't start now, not even if it's Atlas ;)

#18 Clatter

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 12:16

Originally posted by Fatgadget
Sorry Hack.The live chat format doesn't do it for me. I guess being a one finger typist-read very slow-is the problem ):


Glad it's not just me, much preferred the old format.

#19 Tenmantaylor

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 12:26

I do like the new commentary format, but I also liked the random live banter the live threads have on the old rc forums. Wouldve posted in there if they were still around.

Lewis is all over the place on his flyers end of FP2! Correcting in turn 8 was awesome looking but slow. Hes gonna have problems.

EDIT: Lewis just nearly got fastest lap on last attempt i take it back!

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#20 as65p

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 12:40

Originally posted by Tenmantaylor
I do like the new commentary format, but I also liked the random live banter the live threads have on the old rc forums. Wouldve posted in there if they were still around.

Lewis is all over the place on his flyers end of FP2! Correcting in turn 8 was awesome looking but slow. Hes gonna have problems.

EDIT: Lewis just nearly got fastest lap on last attempt i take it back!


Well, again McLaren let Lewis do the last minute glory run, despite Heikki looking more convincing all day...

Was exiting to watch certainly, but with that style his tyres will delaminate even sooner than last year in the race.

Overall looks like a Ferrari cakewalk to me, the points of interest being if Kimi can beat Massa on one of the latters strong tracks and how McLaren is going to make sure their drivers finish in the right order.

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#21 VoidNT

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 12:42

There was a helicopter flying over Webber's crash site. New safety measure?

#22 Formulaonefan

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 12:44

rodlamas claimed Hamilton favourite for pole but forgot to mention the soft tyres. and def gap between Hamilton and Heikki is 4 tenths good one.

#23 pUs

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 12:50

Originally posted by Clatter


Glad it's not just me, much preferred the old format.


Me too. I don't like it one bit.

#24 kar

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 13:02

It's not too bad. Just the chat window needs to be rethought a bit.

#25 stevvy1986

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 13:05

Originally posted by Formulaonefan
rodlamas claimed Hamilton favourite for pole but forgot to mention the soft tyres. and def gap between Hamilton and Heikki is 4 tenths good one.


just seen your comment on the live chat bit calling me a 1 year old-clearly you didnt understand what i was saying (it was simple enough) but anyway,welcome to my ignore list :)

#26 Mika Mika

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 13:07

Originally posted by kar
It's not too bad. Just the chat window needs to be rethought a bit.


Id like to be able to ignore people, and ban flameing... 1 or 2 people were spoiling it for the rest of us!!

#27 stevvy1986

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 13:10

mentioning no names eh mika ;) *cough*formulaonefan*cough* :p

#28 lukywill

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 13:12

Originally posted by Mika Mika


Id like to be able to ignore people, and ban flameing... 1 or 2 people were spoiling it for the rest of us!!


the big buggers are the supposed anti-trolls. there´s much trash coming from people complaining 'trolls' than the odd flame bait.

#29 Formulaonefan

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 13:24

die hard mclaren fans,

think Hamilton is new Schumacher.

#30 Formulaonefan

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 13:33

Lewis Hamilton struggled for much of the session in his McLaren; the car looking particularly ‘pointy’ and it was not until the final minutes of the session that a switch to the softer option tyre moved him from fifth position to second, just 0.036s behind Raikkonen
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#31 femi

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 13:38

Originally posted by pUs


Me too. I don't like it one bit.


The old format was much more better in my opinion as well

#32 Mika Mika

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 13:39

Originally posted by stevvy1986
mentioning no names eh mika ;) *cough*formulaonefan*cough* :p


I'm not saying anything, just 1 or 2 that I ignore here but they appear in the Live chat. Really annoying as they write a bunch of rubbish, obviusly don't know what they are talking about and give the true fans a bad name and reputation.

#33 Formulaonefan

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 13:43

oh so mika mika I don't know what i am talking about, .lol I think i know what i was talking about when fastest sectors Kimi was over 3 tenths faster than Badminton.

#34 stevvy1986

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 13:45

lol,i wasnt actually meanin you should name names mika,that bit was more a tongue in cheek comment

#35 vaavu

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 13:46

How were Massa's and Raikkonen's laptimes compared to each other, besides their fastest laps? I did not have the possibility to check live timing...

I was a little surprised that Kimi was fastest in FP2. Was it just because of his quick flying lap?

#36 Fatgadget

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 13:47

@ formula1fan And you wonder why people ignore you? :rolleyes: It's not funny and it's not clever either

#37 Mika Mika

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 13:47

Originally posted by stevvy1986
lol,i wasnt actually meanin you should name names,that bit was more a tongue in cheek comment


No worries, your good a guessing though :lol: :lol:

#38 jay_reed

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 13:48

Originally posted by vaavu
How were Massa's and Raikkonen's laptimes compared to each other, besides their fastest laps? I did not have the possibility to check live timing...

I was a little surprised that Kimi was fastest in FP2. Was it just because of his quick flying lap?


i had the pleasure of watching live timing and kimi's best lap was done on his first stint of 8 laps.

#39 jokuvaan

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 13:49

Kimi says his setup was all wrong today.

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#40 stevvy1986

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 13:49

Originally posted by Mika Mika


No worries, your good a guessing though :lol: :lol:


lol,not hard to work it out mate :rotfl:

#41 Mika Mika

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 13:51

Originally posted by jokuvaan
Kimi says his setup was all wrong today.


Yea I think he' is suffering form missing FP1, and having to play catchup...

#42 giddyup409

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 14:06

hmmm... nakajima continuing to be faster than rosberg? nico better set the record straight tomorrow in qualifying.

#43 Digitaldrug

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 14:21

Hamilton looked rough as hell out there today. He should go to the Renault garage and ask for a setup.

#44 rodlamas

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 14:42

Looking at the stint times I'd say we're on to a very close race.

But obviously, whoever gets the pole, will win.

#45 molive

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 15:01

Originally posted by rodlamas
Looking at the stint times I'd say we're on to a very close race.

But obviously, whoever gets the pole, will win.


Corrected:

Whoever gets the pole, will MOST PROBABLY win.

Which is sad, but usual, for F1 these days...:/

#46 Formulaonefan

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 15:02

all in all difficult to make conclusions due to weather and no of mistakes anyones race really, everyone struggled out there to be honest.

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 15:03

Turkish GP - Free practice

Istanbul, 9th May 2008

Free practice - First session

F. Massa: 1st 1.27.323 16 Laps Chassis 267
K. Raikkonen: 20th 1.30.732 3 Laps Chassis 270
Weather: air temperature 15/17 °C, track temperature 22/25 °C, covered skies.

Free Practice - Second session

K. Raikkonen: 1st 1.27.543 30 Laps Chassis 270
F. Massa: 3rd 1.27.682 29 Laps Chassis 267
Weather: air temperature 14/16 °C, track temperature 17/18 °C, covered skies.

Something of an up and down day for Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro, in the first two free practice sessions for the Turkish Grand Prix, here at Istanbul Park. Felipe Massa was fastest in the morning, with Kimi Raikkonen topping the afternoon time sheet. However, the reigning world champion had to sit out practically all the morning session because of a gearbox problem. "For the umpteenth time today we learnt, if indeed we needed to learn it, that it only takes the slightest little hitch to lose valuable time," commented the Team Principal of the Gestione Sportiva, Stefano Domenicali. "From what we saw on track, it is very close between us and our main competitors. From our side, we need to work very carefully to find the right settings for both cars and to be in the best possible shape for qualifying and, above all, for the race."

Kimi Raikkonen: "Not the best of Fridays. This morning, I only managed one timed lap before a gearbox problem meant I could not go out for the rest of the session. In the afternoon, I struggled a bit to find the right settings on the car. One of the main problems today was getting the tyres up to the correct temperature, but I think that tomorrow, partly as the grip level on the track improves and partly as we work to improve the set-up, it will be a different situation. We lost valuable time this morning, but we still have enough data to analyse so that we can be ready to tackle the rest of the weekend."

Felipe Massa: "Overall, this was a positive day. The track is very fast, even if it's still a bit dirty, which meant it was quite easy to make mistakes. The low temperatures mean it is difficult to get the most out of the tyres on a first timed lap, especially on the harder ones. We tried various settings and now we need to look at the data from everything we have done over these three hours, to be as well prepared as possible. I feel comfortable on this track and I think I can be very competitive tomorrow and on Sunday in the race: it would be fantastic to win again here, after having done it for the past two years."

Luca Baldisserri: "This Friday's free practice did not go entirely to plan. This morning we had a gearbox problem on Kimi's car which meant he was stuck in the pits for most of the first session. Felipe managed to get through his planned programme and is reasonably satisfied with the handling of his car, while Kimi is less so. As usual for a Friday, we worked on finding the best set-up on the car and on a comparison of the two types of Bridgestone tyre available to us. Now we have to study all the data we have gathered to understand how to improve the performance on both cars."

#48 race addicted

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 15:27

Where in Gods name are all laptimes from free practice on FIA's site?!?! I NEVER EVER find them! What a crap site to navigate through.

#49 Hellenic tifosi

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 15:33

Any idea about who had the best long run pace?

#50 stevvy1986

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 15:33

they only do the qualifying and race classification-just look on the autosport website in the report,all the times are there,unless you mean each lap a driver did rather than just their fastest,which i dont believe any site does