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#1 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 06:50

http://www.timesonli...icle4133668.ece

What about taking the teams into the biosciences?

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#2 Atic Atac

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 07:20

Here on Spain it has been developed a similar procedure to get oil out of algae.

It´s between 25 and 100 times more efficient than taking it from plants as you can produce it into tanks and the algae grow at an amazing rate.

This is a similar idea but using bacteria. I am convinced that this kind of ideas are the future till we get fusion power. ;)

An if we get oil in the future, we will still able to have F1 :lol:

#3 JForce

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 08:00

Why don't we have them get into particle physics? Power the cars using perpetual motion machines?



Everyone bitches about the money, yet wants them to solve all the worlds problems by having them all of a sudden develop world leading capabilities in completely new areas.

What's wrong with using an 8,10,12 cylinder fossil fuel powered internal combustion engine?

F1 doesn't have to jump on the bandwagon of every new fad that comes along. Let it be.

#4 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 08:10

How is that a fad? It's a new technology to help find an existing product. It doesn't fix the environmental issues, but helps significantly with the economic ones.

#5 Beej

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 09:00

Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
How is that a fad? It's a new technology to help find an existing product. It doesn't fix the environmental issues, but helps significantly with the economic ones.


It does say in the article that the petrol produced by OIL 2.0 will be carbon negative so it is addressing one of the environmental issues.

#6 ensign14

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 09:21

"Alonso into the pits now...the aquarium is attached...oh no!!! There seems to be a virus in the ecosystem and he's taking on effluent..."

#7 Josta

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 09:33

I am pretty sure OPEC will buy all of the bugs up and murder them.

#8 Modern Lover

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 09:36

Originally posted by ensign14
"Alonso into the pits now...the aquarium is attached...oh no!!! There seems to be a virus in the ecosystem and he's taking on effluent..."

:rotfl:

#9 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 13:02

What about using the natural excretions of the drivers for power or other uses?

For example--the driver's head is just beneath the air intake--his sweat could be collected and used for a short burst of water injection. I don't know how often they pee in race but that could be used, too.

The natural oils that form in the face and hair--lubricants? Dust collecting grease? Fuel?

Heck, hair itself combusts, no? Have 'em all do Nick Heidfeld impressions between races; the virile Italian stallions would be in great demand :love:

#10 BMW_F1

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 13:05

Originally posted by ensign14
"Alonso into the pits now...the aquarium is attached...oh no!!! There seems to be a virus in the ecosystem and he's taking on effluent..."


:rotfl:

#11 FrankB

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 13:13

Originally posted by OfficeLinebacker
What about using the natural excretions of the drivers for power or other uses?


There is a slightly eccentric individual called Adam Hart-Davies who appears on British TV at fairly regular intervals presenting programmes about technologies... "What did the Victorians do for us?" etc.

He used to appear on a folding bicycle, and in one programme he said that the bike was fuelled exclusively by the food that he had eaten and was a pollution free form of transport, except when he had had baked beans for breakfast!

#12 Josta

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 13:14

Originally posted by OfficeLinebacker
What about using the natural excretions of the drivers for power or other uses?

For example--the driver's head is just beneath the air intake--his sweat could be collected and used for a short burst of water injection. I don't know how often they pee in race but that could be used, too.

The natural oils that form in the face and hair--lubricants? Dust collecting grease? Fuel?

Heck, hair itself combusts, no? Have 'em all do Nick Heidfeld impressions between races; the virile Italian stallions would be in great demand :love:


You could have reserve colostomy and catheter tanks. :)

#13 Lazarus II

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 13:17

Originally posted by OfficeLinebacker
What about using the natural excretions of the drivers for power or other uses?

For example--the driver's head is just beneath the air intake--his sweat could be collected and used for a short burst of water injection. I don't know how often they pee in race but that could be used, too.


That would favor a guy with prostate problems....Sir Sterling, Jackie, Hans where are you?

#14 SeanValen

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 13:18

Funny I was just talking about the ending of Back to the future in the Hydrogen thread, when Doc uses Rubbish to power the Delorean.

Pretty cool.

#15 Lazarus II

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 13:18

Why doesn't F1 research nuke power. :up:

#16 JForce

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 13:19

Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
How is that a fad? It's a new technology to help find an existing product. It doesn't fix the environmental issues, but helps significantly with the economic ones.


I was referring more to these ideas people keep coming up with to change F1 completely. In this case the suggestion is that rather than being racing teams, the "teams" move into bioscience. How much money do you think an F1 team would have to pump into making this idea workable? On top of their existing budget of course. 200m a year? For how many years before it was workable? Half a billion?

Everytime a new scientific "breakthrough" comes along which promises major changes for either the environmental or economic concerns associated with the 750 million cars on the planet, people always jump up and down and want F1 teams to start doing it straight away. Yet we all know that the transfer of technology from F1 to passenger cars is minimal and the timeframes are long.

I'd just rather F1 teams worried about making their cars go faster and winning races than growing algae. You can't solve the worlds problems just by throwing F1 teams at them :p Although that would make for a cool movie :p

#17 FrankB

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 13:19

Originally posted by Josta


You could have reserve colostomy and catheter tanks. :)


I really don't want to think about a KERS set up in conjunction with this!

#18 Andy35

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 13:23

Imagine a bug that could turn urine into beer?

Homebrewing would really take off again.

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#19 stormshadow

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 13:26

So fire and these oil shitting bugs are a safety hazard i suppose.

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#20 FrankB

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 13:28

Originally posted by AndyW35
Imagine a bug that could turn urine into beer?


The ultimate recycling scheme!

This reminds me of a a piece of graffiti in a pub toilet... "You don't buy the beer here, you only rent it"

#21 stormshadow

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 13:28

Originally posted by AndyW35
Imagine a bug that could turn urine into beer?

Homebrewing would really take off again.

Regards

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I dont think so mate there a good lot of beer in the world atmo. :)

#22 ensign14

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 13:31

Originally posted by JForce
I'd just rather F1 teams worried about making their cars go faster and winning races than growing algae. You can't solve the worlds problems just by throwing F1 teams at them :p Although that would make for a cool movie :p

"Oh my god!!! The earth is going to be destroyed by an asteroid!!!"

"Ey, don't-a worry bout meeee, I will go with a bang. Ready, Elisabetta?"

"We can send up a spacecraft to destroy it. Who will drive? Lew-"

"No!!! Send me instead!!!! I am the number one pilot! I DEMAND that you make me number one pilot! Hang on, I just need 20 seconds to start it..."

"Surely if we need to crash into it we should send Adrian? He's expendable...dammit, Kimi, put that away!"

"There must be a better plan! Ron?"

"Well, the problems of an inter-planetary bolide with an orbit intersecting that of the planet known to its Anglophone carbon-based lifeforms as Earth at the temporal instance when the aforesaid body has reached that exact orbital node are complex and requ" BOOM!!!!

#23 Josta

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 13:32

Originally posted by AndyW35
Imagine a bug that could turn urine into beer?

Homebrewing would really take off again.

Regards

Andy


It already exists. They use them at the Fosters brewery.

#24 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 13:55

Originally posted by JForce


How much money do you think an F1 team would have to pump into making this idea workable? On top of their existing budget of course. 200m a year? For how many years before it was workable? Half a billion?

Everytime a new scientific "breakthrough" comes along which promises major changes for either the environmental or economic concerns associated with the 750 million cars on the planet, people always jump up and down and want F1 teams to start doing it straight away. Yet we all know that the transfer of technology from F1 to passenger cars is minimal and the timeframes are long.


But what about a formula/technology where F1 can be used as the test lab for road bits? Instead of being developmently declined and inefficient and nothing more than a 'brand halo' they could actually do something more interesting, that would give them a larger following, and access to more sponsors/manufacturers.

#25 stormshadow

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 14:01

Yeah i could see Honda with "GREENPEACE" on the engine cover :drunk: :p

#26 metz

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 14:21

Powered by GREENPISS.

#27 canon1753

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 15:06

The trick will be to see if the bugculture thing can be upsized and be economically effective. If it is.... Then the dump becomes an oil refinery.

I also suspect that they could engineer a lot of the emissions out of the fuel (or depending what it eats make it more envirofriendly), which would be I suspect would be easier than engineering the bug to make oil.

#28 Tenmantaylor

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 19:39

Sounds a bit like:

http://zedomax.com/b...9/mr_fusion.jpg


Hopefully they can reach more than 88mph

#29 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 20:55

Originally posted by Josta


It already exists. They use them at the Fosters brewery.


You mean Foster's isn't just the straight piss of workers who drank Coopers?

#30 Josta

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 21:42

Originally posted by OfficeLinebacker


You mean Foster's isn't just the straight piss of workers who drank Coopers?


Nope, it is piss that has been pissed out of a bug.

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 23:36

Originally posted by OfficeLinebacker
What about using the natural excretions of the drivers for power or other uses?

For example--the driver's head is just beneath the air intake--his sweat could be collected and used for a short burst of water injection. I don't know how often they pee in race but that could be used, too.

The natural oils that form in the face and hair--lubricants? Dust collecting grease? Fuel?

Heck, hair itself combusts, no? Have 'em all do Nick Heidfeld impressions between races; the virile Italian stallions would be in great demand :love:


Hamilton would surely win the championship by default.
With the amount of bullshit he excretes he'd never have to pit for fuel....although it may save us some verbal diarrhea at the press conference.

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Posted 19 June 2008 - 00:07

Originally posted by JForce
Why don't we have them get into particle physics? Power the cars using perpetual motion machines?


In order for a perpetual motion machine to work at 100 percent efficiency, one has to eliminate friction. So far it hasn't been done.

#33 Pistol_Peto

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Posted 19 June 2008 - 01:20

Originally posted by fastlegs


In order for a perpetual motion machine to work at 100 percent efficiency, one has to eliminate friction. So far it hasn't been done.


Of course even then it couldn't actually "create" any energy to propel a car. For that you'd have to break a law or two of thermodynamics. :kiss:

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 00:44

Originally posted by OfficeLinebacker


You mean Foster's isn't just the straight piss of workers who drank Coopers?


somebody knows their australian beer :up:

#35 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 01:21

Two Words:

Cold Fusion.

#36 repcobrabham

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 10:01

you referring to fuel cell technology or beer?;)

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 12:55

Originally posted by ensign14
"Alonso into the pits now...the aquarium is attached...oh no!!! There seems to be a virus in the ecosystem and he's taking on effluent..."


lmao :rotfl:

#38 Mauseri

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 12:59

Originally posted by Lazarus II
Why doesn't F1 research nuke power. :up:

Maybe because Soviet Union doesnt rule the world.

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 14:12

Originally posted by Lazarus II
Why doesn't F1 research nuke power. :up:

There would be too much proliferation going on between teams.
Like Stephney throwing his nukes out of a pram :eek: