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#1 red stick

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 14:58

Judging from the responses in the Scarab Reunion thread several of you folks planning to attend this event next month know each other already. Is there any interest in seeing if we can arrange a meet-and-greet sometime during the weekend? Perhaps breakfast at the track one morning? Or Siebkins around the Race Car Concours Friday night?

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#2 Red Socks

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 17:15

I'll be there

#3 David M. Kane

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 19:49

The F5000 Reunion will have a special tent near St. John The Baptist food stand. There will also be a music concert there Saturday at the end of day with Neverly Brothers, a '50s, British Rock cover band. Also in the tent will be about 15-25 of the top F5000 drivers and crew chiefs from the day. Paul Dudiak, a McKee F5000 driver is one of the main organizers along with Eric Haga. It's right near the main paddock and the main restroom and showers. The HGP Tent will probably be in the same area, so will the the Green Packer players from Super Bowl I and II.

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Posted 21 June 2008 - 00:19

Originally posted by David M. Kane
The F5000 Reunion will have a special tent near St. John The Baptist food stand. There will also be a music concert there Saturday at the end of day with Neverly Brothers, a '50s, British Rock cover band. Also in the tent will be about 15-25 of the top F5000 drivers and crew chiefs from the day. Paul Dudiak, a McKee F5000 driver is one of the main organizers along with Eric Haga. It's right near the main paddock and the main restroom and showers. The HGP Tent will probably be in the same area, so will the the Green Packer players from Super Bowl I and II.


Here is an email I got from Eric Haga just over a week ago about F5000 drivers from the day...

"...Looks like I'll have Gus Hutchison, John Gunn, George Wintersteen, Lou Sell, Sam Posey, Elliott Forbes-Robinson, Stewart Forbes-Robinson, Brian Redman, Tony A2z, Graham McRae, Lyle Forsgren, Jerry Entin, Dan Furey, Davey Jordan, Kurt Reinhold, and the list goes on! Still making calls and sending email. Should be a great time!..."

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Posted 21 June 2008 - 02:15

Originally posted by David M. Kane
The HGP Tent will probably be in the same area, so will the the Green Packer players from Super Bowl I and II.

As will the Scarab tent! It is going to be a VERY full weekend! I will be dividing my time between the Scarab and F-5000 tents. The track program for the weekend is going to press soon, and it has a four page history of F-5000, illustrated with nine period photos, all by me. I am also doing the Scarab portion of the program.

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Posted 21 June 2008 - 06:23

To Ra Historian, Jerry Entin, Historic Mustang;wishing you all a truely great time, BUT....please remember those of us that are 'Forced' to remain at the 'Coal Face' of Industry...we (the ,"how the other half live"!!) would be well reward with photo's and general chat!!...wishing we were there!...The Un-Washed

#7 JacnGille

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Posted 21 June 2008 - 14:00

Yes, please take (and post!) lots of pics. :cool:

#8 red stick

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Posted 21 June 2008 - 14:19

While I appreciate everyone's enthusiasm, nobody has really answered my question: Do we want to try and arrange a place and time for TNFers to meet?

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Posted 21 June 2008 - 14:22

Originally posted by David M. Kane
The F5000 Reunion will have a special tent near St. John The Baptist food stand. There will also be a music concert there Saturday at the end of day with Neverly Brothers, a '50s, British Rock cover band. Also in the tent will be about 15-25 of the top F5000 drivers and crew chiefs from the day.


When you say at the end of the day Saturday, do you mean this is going to conflict with the concours in Elkhart Lake? I'd hate to have to choose attending one or the other.


Also, noticed your name on the entry list. Looking forward to seeing your March!

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Posted 21 June 2008 - 14:25

Originally posted by David M. Kane
... so will the the Green Packer players from Super Bowl I and II.


Is this also at the end of the day Saturday, or will they be around earlier in the afternoon? My father grew up in Green Bay and might appreciate a photo or two.



I shamed the family by going to college in Chicago and becoming a ........





Bears fan! :eek:

#11 Tom Glowacki

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Posted 21 June 2008 - 16:11

And 'll bet you're behind the plot to defraud the Cheeseheads on the I-Pass violations that never happened! :)

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Posted 21 June 2008 - 18:11

The Packers should be there most of Saturday and Sunday, so no they it won't just be in the evening. When the final logistics are worked out I will post them here since I am the organizer of the portion of the event. It's sort of like organizing the Prom! As they say no good deed goes unpunished, they're great guys you've going to enjoy meeting them.

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Posted 21 June 2008 - 22:47

Ill be there flying the Kiwi flag with Roger Williams in the Interscope T332 Lola . We will be ,I believe in the F5000 tent.

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Posted 21 June 2008 - 22:58

Duncan that is very cool!

#15 red stick

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 01:01

Originally posted by Tom Glowacki
And 'll bet you're behind the plot to defraud the Cheeseheads on the I-Pass violations that never happened! :)


I'm having enough trouble staying in the will as it is. Please, don't start any rumors.....

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 02:35

Originally posted by red stick


When you say at the end of the day Saturday, do you mean this is going to conflict with the concours in Elkhart Lake? I'd hate to have to choose attending one or the other.

Yes, unfortunately a lot of choices will have to be made Saturday evening as there will be the concert etc connected with the F-5000 reunion, the banquet at the Osthoff for the Scarab reunion, the concours in downtown Elkhart Lake, and who knows what else. This is a weekend where one could well use a clone....
Tom

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 13:49

Fortunately everything is pretty close, downtown is less than 2 miles from the track. The Ostoff and the Concours are literally just a few 100 yards from each other. :up:

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 16:46

It is always busy when you get there. Trying to remeber all of the things to do requires a planner on site! The F5000 tent will have some of the cars but like at Wine Country we will have quite a few in other pits because of team support not being able to support them so the cars will be spread around.

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 02:12

I am planning to be up there on Saturday. Prolly spend most of the time around the Scarab tent.
Just scream ZOOOM and I'll wake up!
Otherwise look for a red Vette with the plate.... ZOOOM....
ZOOOM

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#20 Tom Glowacki

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 03:43

See you there. I'll wearing my red PRDA cap.

#21 Red Socks

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 07:30

And I'll be wearing my red socks

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 16:50

Originally posted by Tom Glowacki
See you there. I'll wearing my red PRDA cap.


Originally posted by Red Socks
And I'll be wearing my red socks.



I'm glad some folks can plan that far ahead. Based on the foregoing, the throwback Gale Sayers jersey is probably out, so I guess I'll be wearing a LSU cap.

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 18:07

Well being that it is only a 5 minute ride...I guess I'll have to stop by...;)

We'll hopefully have something on the streets of the concours, something different... :wave:

Cheers,

JD

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 18:39

Originally posted by red stick





I'm glad some folks can plan that far ahead. Based on the foregoing, the throwback Gale Sayers jersey is probably out, so I guess I'll be wearing a LSU cap.


No problem for me I have no socks of any other colour-saves on Laundromat disasters

#25 red stick

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 20:29

The Scarab and F-5000 reunions seem well-represented. Is anything in particular (special tent, lap of significant cars) planned for the Lola 50th anniversary which is also part of the weekend?

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 21:03

Originally posted by red stick
Judging from the responses in the Scarab Reunion thread several of you folks planning to attend this event next month know each other already. Is there any interest in seeing if we can arrange a meet-and-greet sometime during the weekend? Perhaps breakfast at the track one morning? Or Siebkins around the Race Car Concours Friday night?


I'll be there with my 8 year old son Evan. Would be glad to meet other members. Maybe we should e-mail each other cell phone numbers?

Chuck Brandt

P.S. I'll probably be wearing something a lot like this and a goofy hat.
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Posted 26 June 2008 - 06:13

Chuck,

While I'm thinking of it, I talked to Sid Hoole at Monaco. He said they are restoring a King Cobra. Do you know about that? Here is the website for Hoole Racing:

http://www.hooleraci...o.uk/index.html

Maybe somebody near Kimbolton, Cambridgeshire could check it out for you!

(Sorry to go OT).

Vince H.

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 07:27

Vince -
Yes I sure do. In fact it's my job to coordinate with Sid on the work. My friend owns the Bondurant King Cobra and Sid is going to have someone over there build the body. It's all very exciting. Sid is a great fellow to deal with, very busy though with preparing cars for vintage racing.

Chuck

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 17:15

Hi All!

I am the chief of Grid for that weekend! Stop by the top of the grid, and say hi!

Dan Soiney

#30 Red Socks

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 18:33

Originally posted by chuckbrandt
Vince -
Yes I sure do. In fact it's my job to coordinate with Sid on the work. My friend owns the Bondurant King Cobra and Sid is going to have someone over there build the body. It's all very exciting. Sid is a great fellow to deal with, very busy though with preparing cars for vintage racing.

Chuck


No MSD ignition systems!!!

#31 chuckbrandt

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 18:40

Originally posted by Red Socks


No MSD ignition systems!!!


Yeah no kidding! I talked to him right after Monaco and he was really upset about that. It was one of those "no one has ever had a problem with them before" sorts of deals.

I felt bad for him.

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 18:47

Most of the F5000 cars are running the MSD What was the issue at Monaco?

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 19:35

Originally posted by NGSmith
Most of the F5000 cars are running the MSD What was the issue at Monaco?

Nick


I didn't get all the details, but 10-15 V8 cars that Sid prepared for Monaco were disallowed because of the MSD ignitions on them. After some discussion they were allowed to run but their results were not officially recorded. Evidently Monaco has its own rules for this sort of thing. I'm sure others here know more about it than I do.

Chuck

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Posted 14 July 2008 - 16:28

Weekend schedule, as of 7/11:

http://www.roadameri...08_schedule.pdf

Entry List:

http://www.roadameri...ic_08_entry.pdf

Lots to do and see!

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Posted 14 July 2008 - 16:41

Thanks Mark - very useful.

Could someone give me the low down on going to the Parade and Concours in Elkhart Lake Friday night?

I've never gone before and it looks like we could actually make it this year. Any particular places to stand, things to see, places to eat?

Thanks, Chuck

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Posted 14 July 2008 - 17:27

I haven't done the parade. The concours generally is downtown near Siebken's (Lake Street, I believe) and on the streets surrounding, winding toward the Osthoff. Parking is readily available on the town streets, provided you don't block driveways (Duh!) and don't mind walking a few blocks. Elkhart Lake is tiny--just follow the crowd.

Does the parade wind up 67?

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Posted 14 July 2008 - 19:34

The Friday race car parade runs from the track on Hwy 67 into downtown Elkhart Lake. Some view it from outside of town on 67, while I prefer to go downtown and watch the cars arrive. That is where most people will be. We typically set up a picnic directly across the street from Siebkens. But you can stand anywhere downtown and get a good view.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 10:48

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Fellow Forum member Duncan Fox and Lola T-332

Duncan did a beautiful job of keeping this ex Interscope Lola in top form all weekend long. Roger Williams got a first in the qualifying race on Saturday and drove to a great second place on Sunday. Against a very large and strong field of F-5000 cars.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 10:56

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Oscar Koveleski congradulating Jay Esterer on his fine win in the CanAm race.

Jay Esterer had a very nasty shunt in his Formula 5000 McRae and drove the weekend with a badly hurt leg. He did a great job of bringing his McLaren Mk 8 home in first place at Elkhart Lake. Jay is a credit to Vintage racing and does a beautiful job of presenting his car.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 11:16

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RA Historian with Gus and Susan Hutchison

This is inside the F-5000 tent. Gus Hutchison recieved a medallion for his contribution to F-5000 racing, this was from the F-5000 association. His lovely wife Susan came to the event with Gus.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 11:22

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This is a bunch of Wild and Crazy guys.
Inside the F-5000 tent. Sam Posey, Jerry Entin , Harry Lipetz and Tony Adamowicz

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 11:45

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Ike Smith and a surprise guest at the Kohler races.
Next to the surprise guest are Peter Bryant and Dan Lipetz.

In this picture are Ike Smith and Linda Peterson, Linda is Chuck Parsons daughter, and Peter Bryant and Dan Lipetz. Peter Bryant and Ike Smith worked with Linda's dad in the day.

Ike Smith was helping Dan Lipetz run his beautiful Lola T-222 on the weekend. Dan finished a fine 3rd in the CanAm qualifying race on Saturday. On Sunday while pulling his car up to the pre grid. Boom! his brakes went to the floor. This happened out of the clear blue. Dan started the race hoping they would pump up. This was not to be.
He was forced not to be able to run due to the car having no brakes.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 13:07

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George Follmer and his good friend Juan Gonzalez

Juan Gonzalez was driving the CanAm Shadow and George Follmer was giving him some advice. Juan did a very good job of driving and his crew had his cars in perfect condition for the races. On the side is crew member Leo Quipoha.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 13:42

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CanAm Shadow crew
This racing group goes by the name Car Amigo and they are Dave Cancilla and Leo Quipoha and Teo Viera. Their driver is of course Juan Gonzalez.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 14:07

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Harry Lipetz and Cristi Cristich and George Follmer.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 15:52

Jerry,

Thank you so much for the pictures and giving us an idea of what we missed. I would liked to have been there, at least to meet My Great Friend Tom (RAH) if nothing else. I really want to get back to Elkhart Lake & Road America some time soon, especially after I realized just how long it had been since I my last visit. Whatever one might think about historic/vintage racing itself, there is one thing that does seem to be be commonly agreed upon -- it gives people an excuse to be there....

Don

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 16:21

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Bobby Brown and his good friend Gus Hutchison

Don: As you have said, this picture tells the story. Here are two buddies who haven't seen each other in 30 years. They were overjoyed to get together.

I haven't told about the F-5000 tent yet. To say it blew people away is an understatement. They had food and drinks and a really great rock and roll band. And the greatest friends and fans in the world were present. You really missed a joyous time.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 16:33

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Steven Hilton meeting Linda Peterson.

As I have said earlier Linda's father, Chuck Parsons raced this Lola in 1968 on a team with Skip Scott run by Carl Haas. Steven is the current owner. This was Linda's first Vintage race. She is coming to Monterey next.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 16:45

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Seb Coppola and his Lola F-5000 car.

Seb Coppola and his wife Mary and Paul Dudiak and his wife Sandy were the driving force behind the F-5000 tent. It was a great success. Even though it was nearly torn apart in a huge storm on Wednesday night. You would have never know it survived a storm. It was the most well run show I have ever seen. Mark Harmer and Bruce Lesson and Eric Haga are also the main thrust behind the F-5000 Association.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 17:40

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Craig Bennett talking to Ike Smith and Doug MacCorkindale.

Ike and Doug were running the ex Craig Bennett driven Lola T-222 of Dan Lipetz this weekend. They were having trouble with the gear shifting mechinisum. As a matter of fact. Dan Lipetz had the gear shift knob break off in his hand. Craig got in the car and I would say in 2 seconds knew what was the matter. The clutch was engaging over center. He repaired it in a flash. I told Dan Lipetz's dad Harry not to worry, they fixed it under warranty.