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#1 Makarias

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Posted 03 August 2008 - 17:29

BRAND NEW CIRCUIT OMG OMG OMG!!!! TRIPLED TIME PRECISION SPANS!
The circuit guide says that the track is 5473.5 metres long, whereas Forix claims that it's 5416 metres long. Confusing! According to the first link the lap time is estimated at some 97 seconds, which would give an average speed of some 201 km/h. We can compare this with this year's poles for Hungary (194.954 km/h) and France (207.714 km/h).

Here is a comparison between the two track lengths found and the average speeds for some lap times:

time  5473.5 5416

(s)   (km/h) (km/h)

 93   211.9  209.7

 94   209.6  207.4   

 95   207.4  205.2

 96   205.3  203.1

 97   203.1  201.0

 98   201.1  199.0

 99   199.0  196.9

100   197.0  195.0

How to enter: Just submit your guess for what the pole time will be, and who you think will take pole.
Ten position penalties are ignored if and only if they are due to disciplinary reasons.

Deadline:
Full entry is accepted only for entries submitted/edited before the start of first free practice.
Guesses entered or edited after first free practice will get a penalty in the form of an added time gap between the guess and the pole time: 0.100 s for "Default" tracks, 0.400 s for "Modified Layout" tracks, 0.900 s for "New" tracks.
Final deadline is whenever I choose to register the entries; typically Friday evening CET. But always after first free practice. In case of me being absent and not able to register the entries in time, the absolute final deadline is the start of Saturday practice.

Scoring rules

-The best eight guessers (closest to the actual pole position time) Score points F1 style, 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1.

-Precision points are given to every participant whose guess was sufficiently close the actual pole position time according to this list:

	 <-----------Time offsets----------->

Pts  Default   Modified Layout  New Track  [s]

10   - 0.050	   - 0.100	   - 0.150

 8   - 0.100	   - 0.200	   - 0.300

 6   - 0.200	   - 0.400	   - 0.600

 5   - 0.400	   - 0.800	   - 1.200

 4   - 0.600	   - 1.200	   - 1.800

 3   - 0.800	   - 1.600	   - 2.400

 2   - 1.200	   - 2.400	   - 3.600

 1   - 2.000	   - 4.000	   - 6.000
The first race of the season counts as a Modified Layout unless it's brand new.
A track that wasn't used the previous season also counts as a Modified Layout.
A track that hasn't been used for the previous five seasons counts as a New Track.

-Driver Points are given for correctly guessing the driver to take pole position. The amount of points given depends on the current value of the driver, according to this list:

Pts   Recent qualifying results

 5	 0 front row starts in the previous five races

 4	 1 front row start in the previous five races

 3	 2 front row starts in the previous five races

 2	 3-5 front row starts in the previous five races

2008 standings after Hungary




[b]Three latest poles at Europe-Valencia:

Year  Driver	   Pole time (s)[/b]

NEW CIRCUIT!





[b]Driver values:

Dri  val[/b]

Hami  2

Kova  3

Mass  3  

Kubi  4

Räik  4 

Webb  4

REST  5 





[b]2008 data:

				  Time	2007	 2007 fastest  2008/2007  

GP   Pole  #2	  (s)	pole(s)  race lap (s)	 (%)	   [/b]

OZ   Hami  Kubi   86.714   86.072   85.235	   100.746

MAL  Mass  Räik   95.748   95.043   96.701	   100.742

BAH  Kubi  Mass   93.096   92.652   94.067	   100.479

ESP  Räik  Alon   81.813   81.421   82.680	   100.481

TUR  Mass  Kova   87.617   87.329   87.295	   100.330

MON  Mass  Räik   75.787   75.726   75.284	   100.081

CAN  Hami  Kubi   77.886   75.707   76.367	   102.878

FRA  Räik  Mass   76.449   75.034   76.099	   101.886

GB   Kova  Webb   81.049   79.997   80.638	   101.315

GER  Hami  Mass   75.666   ------   ------		------

HUN  Hami  Kova   80.899   79.674   80.047	   101.538

EUR						------   ------		------

BEL					   105.994  108.036			  

ITA						81.997   82.871			  

SIN						------   ------		------

JAP						85.368   88.193			  

CHN						95.908   97.454			  

BRA

My guess for Europe is 97.656 s by Lewis Hamilton.

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#2 Barty

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Posted 03 August 2008 - 20:24

96.896 Hamilton

#3 Frogman

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Posted 04 August 2008 - 14:51

97.803 Raikkonen

#4 mimin

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 07:47

96.555 F. Massa

#5 fisichella_2001

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Posted 14 August 2008 - 06:52

L Hamilton - 98,523

#6 dank

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Posted 15 August 2008 - 08:29

Hamilton - 97.901

#7 Apex

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Posted 16 August 2008 - 06:19

96.772 - Hamilton

#8 scheivlak

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Posted 17 August 2008 - 22:00

Lewis Hamilton 96.345

#9 brunopascal

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 16:12

Hamilton 96.501

#10 Crazy Canuck

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 21:25

Hammy Hammy Hamilton 93.309

FYI - formula1.com claims the track length is 5440m!

#11 estoril85

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 19:08

hamilton 95.991

#12 italiansdoitbetter

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 19:34

hamilton 96.444

#13 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 00:21

Massa: 97:711

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#14 dnbn

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 01:39

96.302 Hamilton

#15 Kooper

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 01:40

97.207 Hamilton

#16 shays

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 02:33

97.888 seconds Hamilton

#17 Estwald

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 04:38

98.125 Hamilton

#18 kismet

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 17:28

96.666 Räikkönen

#19 ville

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 17:35

97.242 Hamilton

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#20 LB

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 19:17

Hamilton 96.456

#21 THE HUMAN MAN

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 20:01

Hamilton - 1.36.701

#22 D82

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 20:28

hamilton - 95.987

#23 Makarias

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 22:56

I'm changing my guess to 98.062 seconds, still by Lewis Hamilton.

#24 Xig

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 22:59

Massa 97.328

#25 MattFoster

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 05:16

Raikkonen 96.888

#26 Alapan

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 05:54

Massa - 97.454

#27 garth_b

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 06:03

99.135 Raikkonen

#28 boost

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 06:36

Hamilton 97.945

#29 Makarias

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 14:34

This round closed for entries! Results will be up around one week after the GP, thanks to my glorious absence.

Don't cry for my absence though, listen to this instead:
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