May I suggest you fully read the CAMS Historic site in regard to the three tier C of D system.
I'll explain my dilemma.
To apply for a CofD, the car must first have a log book. CAMS tells me I can't apply for a replacement log book because I don't have the original log book number, or I can't provide a list of previous owners of the car in chronological order.
The only way I could find out the history of the car is via a truck driver who owned the car two people ago telling me who he bought the car from - and that bloke won't answer my e-mails.
The other alternative is to get a new log book for the car - and drive the car in the current 1200cc state series - something I'd do if i could get a new log book.
The 2011 CAMS manual, on close reading of para 2.1, would have the reader think that only vehciles of 1600cc need to comply with the side intrusion rules. My view is that this is probably just because the 2011 CAMS manual is particularly poorly worded, and the intention is that the word 'and' should have been an 'or' (see the BOLD type in the copied reference, below), because the applicable CAMS Technical bulletin (03-045) para 9.4.1 (which can't be retrieved from the CAMS web site, and is held by some very few well read Vee enthusiasts) indicates that the new rules for side intrusion and roll over should also apply to 1200cc Vees first log booked after 1 Jan 2003. In any normal legislative environment, the later of the two guidelines would be taken to be the correct interpretation in the event of a contradiction, however in this case - the safe option is to assume that the CAMS manual has been poorly written.
The specific wording of the CAMS manual is:
2.1 Frame: The frame must be of steel tube construction. Cars with log books first issued on or after 1 January
2003 and cars fitted with a 1600cc engine must incorporate adequate roll over and side impact protection.
Specifications for new chassis requirements are set out in the FVAA Technical Manual.
The specific wording of the CAMS Tech bulletin is more inclusive, and states that car must be log booked before 1 Jan 2003 or otherwise comply with the new rules for roll over protection and side intrusion - be it for 1200cc Vees OR 1600cc Vees.
So - if I want a CAMS log book, the only real option is to apply for a current log book - which means I need to cut the car up and remake it with the new bar work. This is because I can't provide a history of the car, or an original log book showing the car was log booked prior to 1 Jan 2003 - so I can't apply for an Historic log book, a replacement log book, or a log book on the basis that the car was first log booked prior to 1 Jan 2003. The simple matter of the issue is that even though this is a Mk1 MAKO made some time in the 60's or 70's, the CAMS Tech Bulletin prevents me from obtaining a new log book for the car unless I modify it to comply with the modern side impact protection rules, because I can't prove it had a log book prior to 1 Jan 2003.
In short, whereas the current CAMS manual wording strictly does not prevent the car from getting a current log book, in practice, I would tend to think that the 03-045 tech Bulletin probably does - and this will prevent any 'chook shed find' restoration being log booked as a current car. Getting an historic log book relies on the ability to have an old log book for the car, or a list of owners is known and in chronological order - neither of which I can do. Arguing with CAMS about what the rules say is pretty pointless if the scrutineer refers to the Tech Bulletin, and not the current CAMS manual.
Without a log book, a CofD can't be initiated.
If I were rewriting the rules, I would specify that a panel of experts should be able to inspect any potential Historic cars, and on the basis that the panel agrees that the car is genuinely a historic Vee, and MAY HAVE BEEN log booked prior to 1 Jan 2003, then as long as it meets the safety rules as they were on 31 Dec 2002, the car should be eligible for log book (and then, perhaps, a qualified CofD application).
In my case, I'd select Frank Klienig and Col Merz as experts - Frank because he built and designed them, Col because he owned one when they were new in the 70s, and because he helped me restore the vehicle, and knows it very well indeed.
The way the CAMS Manual rules are currently interpreted, it is doubtful that many of the potentially available cars will qualify for CAMS log books - and they will therefore not be available for the CAMS grid in either the Historics or current series. A better solution for the sport would be to agree that certification by two independent members of a panel of experts should be sufficient to certify a historic Vee as being eligible for an historic or even a current log book (in conjunction with an inspection from a current, listed CAMS scrutineer) under a 'IT MAY HAVE BEEN' log booked prior to 1 Jan 2003 provision, because it was built prior to 1 Jan 2003.
If I were to receive any level of support for this argument, I'd write to CAMS with a proposed amendment to their rules. The unfortunate thing is that a change like this may in effect give rise to the decrease in value of currently log booked Historic Vees (because more cars could be so log booked) - so it stands to reason that I shouldn't anticipate a lot of support from some of the current owners of historic Vees - but it would open up the sport to a lot more cars - mine would be one of them.
Edited by DarrenC, 31 October 2011 - 02:27.