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#11951 picblanc

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Posted 28 November 2009 - 22:41

Mexican Jimmy Morales ???


Nope!

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#11952 gmwzorro

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Posted 28 November 2009 - 22:41

Here ye go WW






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Guy Bertin

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Posted 28 November 2009 - 22:42

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Posted 28 November 2009 - 22:43

Thats better, the other one is a bit shoutty!!

#11955 fil2.8

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Posted 28 November 2009 - 22:47

Guy Bertin


Is the correct answer :clap: :clap: 1980 , Assen , Motobecane 125

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Posted 28 November 2009 - 22:48

Is the correct answer :clap: :clap: 1980 , Assen , Motobecane 125


Not to difficult that one....what with his name on the side an all!!!

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Posted 28 November 2009 - 22:48

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That's better! :rolleyes: :lol:

#11958 fil2.8

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Posted 28 November 2009 - 22:51

Not to difficult that one....what with his name on the side an all!!!


Then why did'nt you answer it :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ?? :p :p

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Posted 28 November 2009 - 22:52

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Posted 28 November 2009 - 22:54

Then why did'nt you answer it :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ?? :p :p


Was busy faffing about with Steve's photo! :p

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Posted 28 November 2009 - 22:59

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Posted 28 November 2009 - 23:02

Was busy faffing about with Steve's photo! :p


:yawnface: :yawnface: :yawnface: Right :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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Posted 28 November 2009 - 23:02

Hans-Otto Butenuth

No not Hans initials GS only ever remember him on BMWs Southern 100 81

#11964 Herr Wankel

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Posted 28 November 2009 - 23:04

No not Hans initials GS only ever remember him on BMWs Southern 100 81

Grant Sellars
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Posted 28 November 2009 - 23:05

:clap: :clap: Yes it is Grant
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Grant Sellars
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#11966 Herr Wankel

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Posted 28 November 2009 - 23:14

:clap: :clap: Yes it is Grant
Gary

I think it is derived from one of the old Gus Kuhn racers.Grant has done a few laps :p around the mountain circuit on his Manx Norton also.Lived just down the road from Ken Redfern IIRC.
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#11967 Steve Bateman

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Posted 28 November 2009 - 23:26

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Blimey Graham, you are a God ! How did you manage to upload a photo that i couldnt ! From now on i will email you my pics and you can upload them ( as long as you promise not to look first !)
Howcome the http has all the (IMG) bits that the site wouldnt let me post ?
Anyway to the photo, ignore the numpty in the middle, who is the young lad kneeling ? (clue, he went on to be a very successful driver on four wheels and very often on BBC on a Sunday afternoon ?)

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 00:30

That bloody TZA, runined my 1990, always one or two places in front of me that year!
Steve and the padbury motors guys, who went on to sponsor Alan Carter for a couple of years too.

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 09:31

Blimey Graham, you are a God ! How did you manage to upload a photo that i couldnt ! From now on i will email you my pics and you can upload them ( as long as you promise not to look first !)
Howcome the http has all the (IMG) bits that the site wouldnt let me post ?
Anyway to the photo, ignore the numpty in the middle, who is the young lad kneeling ? (clue, he went on to be a very successful driver on four wheels and very often on BBC on a Sunday afternoon ?)


Jenson Button ??

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 11:12

WWW?
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Not much on this guy!! French, regular at UK Internationals in the 70's.

#11971 Steve Bateman

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 11:16

Was busy faffing about with Steve's photo! :p

Big thanks guys, especiallt Graham , Fil and HEMELYA who have been very patient in explaining how to upload photos.Think i have cracked it now so watch out i am going to bore you all to death(even more).
Once i have finished doing my VAT Return that is ! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

#11972 fil2.8

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 11:23

Not much on this guy!! French, regular at UK Internationals in the 70's.


Buster , old chap :p is it Bernard Goldstein , PBI Oct 1976 perchance ??

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 11:47

Jenson Button ??

Sorry Fil, not JB !
Wow, so this is what it feels like to be in charge of the questions ! :lol: :lol: :wave: :wave:

Clue, he was the son of my sponsor and his teammates initials were JP.

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 12:25

Sorry Fil, not JB !
Wow, so this is what it feels like to be in charge of the questions ! :lol: :lol: :wave: :wave:

Clue, he was the son of my sponsor and his teammates initials were JP.

Mr Palmer,Steve?
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Posted 29 November 2009 - 12:28

Mr Palmer,Steve?
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Dont think so, Jonathan Palmer was racing F1 in the 80's & a Doctor before that, this pic is late 80's 1990? lad is to young HW, but I have been known to be wrong a number of times!! :D

#11976 Steve Bateman

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 12:31

Dont think so, Jonathan Palmer was racing F1 in the 80's & a Doctor before that, this pic is late 80's 1990? lad is to young HW, but I have been known to be wrong a number of times!! :D

Afraid not Graham, his teamates first name was Jason :rolleyes:

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 12:55

Got to be Touring cars, cant be Jason Plato is it?

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 13:11

Alain Menu ?

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 13:20

Got to be Touring cars, cant be Jason Plato is it?



Would help if I read the post properly, the lads initials are not JP so.............I am lost!! :drunk:

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 13:23

Buster , old chap :p is it Bernard Goldstein , PBI Oct 1976 perchance ??


Oi , Buster !!!! give us an answer please :mad: :mad: :mad: :p :kiss:

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 13:24

Back again!! James Thompson, last guess!

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 13:26

Oi , Buster !!!! give us an answer please :mad: :mad: :mad: :p :kiss:


Last clue, he was involved in the big 15? machine, 1975 Paddock bend 1st lap accident, in the MCN televised race @ the PBI meet.

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 13:27

Not much on this guy!! French, regular at UK Internationals in the 70's.


Not Alain Terras is it Graham?

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 13:32

Last clue, he was involved in the big 15? machine, 1975 Paddock bend 1st lap accident, in the MCN televised race @ the PBI meet.


Choice of 2 , either Olivier Chevallier , or Patrick Pons , i'll go with the first :up:

#11985 Steve Bateman

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 13:44

Got to be Touring cars, cant be Jason Plato is it?

Jason Plato is correct, The young chap was his teamamte, also initials JP !! :confused: :confused: :confused:

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 15:36

Not Alain Terras is it Graham?


Tiz indeed Mick :clap: :clap:

Silverstone 1976.

Edited by picblanc, 29 November 2009 - 15:37.


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Posted 29 November 2009 - 15:45

Jason Plato is correct, The young chap was his teamamte, also initials JP !! :confused: :confused: :confused:


James Pickford?

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 15:51

WWW , one very well known , :up: one not so well known , I think







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Posted 29 November 2009 - 15:58

WWW , one very well known , :up: one not so well known , I think







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Anton Mang #3

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 16:04

James Pickford?

Correct Graham :clap: :clap: Drove for Seat in the 2005 BTCC Championships, every time he was in front of his teammate Plato in qualifying, his car was mysteriously not as fast in the race :confused: :confused:

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 16:07

Anton Mang #3


Correct :clap: ................. and ????

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 16:25

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NB . The guy at the front WAS being lapped :rolleyes: :rolleyes:










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Posted 29 November 2009 - 16:32

Hi K,
Dont know the answer to that, my RG had Spondon chassis so maybe Steve Henshaw decided to hang onto his Spondon calipers to carry over to his MK8.
Just looked at some old pics and my RG calipers were on the front, i think everyone at the time had different ideas about how the antdive worked dependent on whether calipers were in front or behind. Probably a question for Paul MB !!
Steve


Calipers in front or behind shouldn't make any difference to how the Suzuki hydraulic anti-dive units bolted to the forks work. The pressure of brake fluid in the line at the top of the ANDF just closes a valve against the pressure of a spring to slow down fork oil through the body of the ANDF dependant on how hard you pull the front brake lever.

However there was always talk about calipers behind forks get too hot, or at least not sufficient cooling air, and that they were stopping the forks compressing because the disc was going up through the caliper. Whereas, calipers in front of the fork legs allowed beter cooling to the pads and calipers and because the discs were going down (ok across) the pad then the forks would compess more.

So, pretty much one of one and one of another adding up to one or 42 or total buls**t.

Of course, a bigger issue may be that by having the calipers closer to the steering axis when they are behind the legs reduces weight out the front to reduce the pendulum effect when you get in a tank slapper. Possibly less pad knock back as well?

Not convinced on any of these I'm afraid but then I didn't have to ride them either! I just thought most, not all, bikes looked better with the calipers behind the legs. You will see if you study the two TR500 piccies that it came to me with the calipers in front and left with them behind. As it's not a standard set up (would have had Cerianis and double twin leading shoe), I guess no-one can say how I've put it together is wrong. :lol:

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 16:35

Butch Hobbs.


I did a couple of races as his mechanic back in the late 70's, 350 TZ. Had a crash course in how powerjet carbs work when it didn't run too well at Snett. Still see him occaisionally rushing around the Sevenoaks area. He and his missus both work at Quaife engineering, his missus being Micks sister of course.

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 16:39

Bloody Carnaby :mad:
Nothing would surprise me about that place!


More like the traffic cone got in the way. When I went there in '83 I asked the riders why their lap times were always so different. They said the track was different every lap as the cones walked around in the wind. So did the bales come to that. :rotfl:

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 16:44

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NB . The guy at the front WAS being lapped :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Howard Lees on the cb1100r
Mark Salle 4
Dont know the others

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 16:53

"course, a bigger issue may be that by having the calipers closer to the steering axis when they are behind the legs reduces weight out the front to reduce the pendulum effect when you get in a tank slapper. Possibly less pad knock back as well?"


Thats what i remember being told all those years ago and was wondering if suzuki had changed their way of thinking or if it was each individuals choice as to which way round.

Im now none the wiser :lol:


Will just have to try both ways and see :confused:


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Posted 29 November 2009 - 17:06

Calipers in front or behind shouldn't make any difference to how the Suzuki hydraulic anti-dive units bolted to the forks work. The pressure of brake fluid in the line at the top of the ANDF just closes a valve against the pressure of a spring to slow down fork oil through the body of the ANDF dependant on how hard you pull the front brake lever.

However there was always talk about calipers behind forks get too hot, or at least not sufficient cooling air, and that they were stopping the forks compressing because the disc was going up through the caliper. Whereas, calipers in front of the fork legs allowed beter cooling to the pads and calipers and because the discs were going down (ok across) the pad then the forks would compess more.

So, pretty much one of one and one of another adding up to one or 42 or total buls**t.

Of course, a bigger issue may be that by having the calipers closer to the steering axis when they are behind the legs reduces weight out the front to reduce the pendulum effect when you get in a tank slapper. Possibly less pad knock back as well?

Not convinced on any of these I'm afraid but then I didn't have to ride them either! I just thought most, not all, bikes looked better with the calipers behind the legs. You will see if you study the two TR500 piccies that it came to me with the calipers in front and left with them behind. As it's not a standard set up (would have had Cerianis and double twin leading shoe), I guess no-one can say how I've put it together is wrong. :lol:

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 17:11

. Possibly less pad knock back as well?"


Thats what i remember being told all those years ago and was wondering if suzuki had changed their way of thinking or if it was each individuals choice as to which way round.

Im now none the wiser :lol:


Will just have to try both ways and see :confused:

Hi K, remember when we were still running stock wheels on the 1985 GSXR750 in Endurance, the thing used to headshake so violently that the wheels would flex and push the pads back COMPLETELY from the disc and you had to pump at least three times before you got the lever back ! That was my version of kevin Shwantz comment "see god - then brake !"

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 17:17

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NB . The guy at the front WAS being lapped :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


# 103 is that bloke from Dorset!