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#21851 picblanc

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 22:03

Not had one for a while, www?

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#21852 exclubracer

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 22:51

I'll have a wild guess at Thierry Rapicault, the helmet looks familiar.

#21853 MoMurray

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 20:06

Not had one for a while, www?

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Stephan Mertens.

#21854 picblanc

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 21:08

Stephan Mertens.



Hi Mo, correct, :clap: Stephane Brands Hatch 1982/83?





#21855 kz71

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 20:34

Some information about Terry's venture

http://kakeh.com/dennehy/



Great article, great bike.
I remember reading about this bike at the time and dreaming about how I could build something like that.
Ralph raced in NZ for a while.
He was at the NZ GP in '72 on Ginger Molloy's TD2 Yam.
I remember it well because I was leading the NZ championship and the GP was the final race and I had to get at least 2nd to win the title.
I felt a bit intimidated because here were these GP experienced fellas at the last race, ready to kick my butt.
A good race, it had been raining and three of the big threats (including Stu Avant) fell then Ralph's engine let go right in my face giving me a dose of oily piston parts.
I was safe, 2nd place and no threats so cruised from then.
Marty Cropp won the race and I was NZ champ, seemed like a big deal then.
Wow! 40 years ago, seems like yesterday

#21856 philippe7

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 22:05

Thank you Mike ! Always great to read your contributions . We need more of them, things have been pretty calm on the forum lately ....

#21857 knickerbrook

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 18:21

Nice clip of a Mk3 Seeley G50 - with sound.
Russ, I think you asked once what the Blair exhaust sounded like? Well turn your volume up and enjoy!


If this has whetted your appetite, I've posted Dave Roper's on-board lap of the TT course on a G50 (in two parts) on the YouTube thread!

#21858 Russell Burrows

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 21:45

Nice clip of a Mk3 Seeley G50 - with sound.
Russ, I think you asked once what the Blair exhaust sounded like? Well turn your volume up and enjoy!


If this has whetted your appetite, I've posted Dave Roper's on-board lap of the TT course on a G50 (in two parts) on the YouTube thread!

Thanks, Barry,enjoyed those. :up:

#21859 rd500

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 10:03

anyone have any info on this rider

http://www.highsider.../Sraj_89_01.htm

certainly a good style.

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#21860 marksjackson

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 21:07

In an oddly backwards scenario, if I say Who,What & Where, would anyone have any images or memories of:

  • John Woodley
  • RG500 MK2
  • IOM Senior in 78, or any other events on this bike.

Cheers folks

This is the bike these days, and I'm hoping for a few parades/trackdays and maybe the odd Hillclimb/sprint next year.

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#21861 GD66

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 21:42

If you have a trawl through the Marlboro Series thread on this forum you will find a few pics of John Woodley on RGs, Mark. There are also a couple on the Wanganui Cemetery Circuit facebook page.

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 22:07

If you have a trawl through the Marlboro Series thread on this forum you will find a few pics of John Woodley on RGs, Mark. There are also a couple on the Wanganui Cemetery Circuit facebook page.


Ta,

One for tomorrow night.

Cheers, Mark

#21863 fil2.8

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 23:00

In an oddly backwards scenario, if I say Who,What & Where, would anyone have any images or memories of:

  • John Woodley
  • RG500 MK2
  • IOM Senior in 78, or any other events on this bike.

Cheers folks

This is the bike these days, and I'm hoping for a few parades/trackdays and maybe the odd Hillclimb/sprint next year.

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Hi , Mark , is/was that the Mk 2 RG of Johns ?? , if so I know a little of its history after John ..................


#21864 Rennmax

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 10:08

Isn't this the occasion they both met for the first time ? :D

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#21865 picblanc

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 10:24

Apparently so.........only 37 years a go!! :eek:

#21866 rd500

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 19:32

not many guys can fit their full name on their helmet....

#21867 Tonka

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 21:54

My brother took a Mayfair centrefold to Brands. He was upset when Stef refused to sign it.
Might have been worth a fortune now.



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Posted 03 October 2012 - 12:43

In an oddly backwards scenario, if I say Who,What & Where, would anyone have any images or memories of:

  • John Woodley
  • RG500 MK2
  • IOM Senior in 78, or any other events on this bike.

Cheers folks

This is the bike these days, and I'm hoping for a few parades/trackdays and maybe the odd Hillclimb/sprint next year.

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I bought (or rather my sponsor bought) my Mk2 Suzuki from John Woodley at the Brands powerbike meeting at the end of 1980, he also had a mk4 which Clive Offer bought, both had been beautifully rebuilt by Stu Bone, I guess he had more than one mk2!
By coincidence we both clashed at the first Snett Revetts round out of 4 races Clive won 3 and I was 2nd each time but won the other. I will try and find a pic

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 13:28

Being pursued by Stu Baker, Snett 81 I think

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#21870 fil2.8

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 14:41

I bought (or rather my sponsor bought) my Mk2 Suzuki from John Woodley at the Brands powerbike meeting at the end of 1980, he also had a mk4 which Clive Offer bought, both had been beautifully rebuilt by Stu Bone, I guess he had more than one mk2!
By coincidence we both clashed at the first Snett Revetts round out of 4 races Clive won 3 and I was 2nd each time but won the other. I will try and find a pic



well , thats strange , Fran Ridewood , the Marks brothers sponsor bought a Mk 2 from John Woodley in 1978 , IIRC , for Bob to ride mostly , as Bill concentrated on the OW31 , until Bob almost totaled it at the Old Hairpin in , I think 1979 , almost bringing to an end his career , it was rebuilt , Bob and Bill then sharing it for a while until Bob retired , I can remember it being for sale in Fran's showroom in Wells ,in 1981 for £2,500 !!!!!


#21871 suzrg500

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 15:19

Yep, mine went for similar money, if only we knew :eek:

#21872 fil2.8

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 16:35

Yep, mine went for similar money, if only we knew :eek:




and the OW31 for £4250 in 1983 ..................................................... :eek: to a guy in the Blackpool area :well:


#21873 rd500

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 17:22

wow, thats bargain basement prices, you were paying more for some road bikes at that time.

#21874 marksjackson

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 19:30

well , thats strange , Fran Ridewood , the Marks brothers sponsor bought a Mk 2 from John Woodley in 1978 , IIRC , for Bob to ride mostly , as Bill concentrated on the OW31 , until Bob almost totaled it at the Old Hairpin in , I think 1979 , almost bringing to an end his career , it was rebuilt , Bob and Bill then sharing it for a while until Bob retired , I can remember it being for sale in Fran's showroom in Wells ,in 1981 for £2,500 !!!!!


thanks fellas, :up:

It is JW's 78 tt bike, which was in Sid Griffiths yellow and blue at the 78tt (although it's current engine was in Billie Guthrie's bike then. It had the bigger seat unit on by then, and the forks turned backwards, but don't know if JW had more than 1 mk2 to ride in Europe (another fir southern hemisphere stuff perhaps?)

I've just got a lovely big photo to frame (from the Mortons archive) that Nick Nicholss took in the 78 senior, and know that it ended up on display in the IOM ( a casino?) but would love to know the missing parts of history.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 19:36

Think John is on a bit of a motorcycling Tiki Tour around NZ at the moment, but I'll point him to this when he gets back home.


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Posted 04 October 2012 - 20:03

Think John is on a bit of a motorcycling Tiki Tour around NZ at the moment, but I'll point him to this when he gets back home.


Thanks Peter,

The days when a bunch of racing friends left NZ to join the continental circus must have been amazing, and so much more of a wild adventure than today's organised "Business" of professional racing.

I think hearing the "fall from grace" memories associated with an older bike, as they move from "latest thing" down to a corner in a club racer's shed, are such an important part of why we all find them so interesting.

I only acquired the bike this autumn, but I've spent many years thinking "I'll have saved up enough next year" only for the prices to rise faster than my savings!

Having such a nice bike has even inspired me to clean my garage, and having a few framed stories and pictures surrounding the bike in my man-cave should mean I'll be comfy living in there if my wife ever finds out how much it cost!

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:51

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John Woodley tipping it into turn 1 at Oran Park.

Pic by Murray Hill.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 10:39

Just been watching some 80's 500cc Grand Prix's on youtube and noticed that a lot of the races were started by the national flag, and the bikes were pushed started.

Does anyone know which Grand Prix was the last to be started by a flag? And which Grand Prix did the riders have to push start their bikes?

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 14:05

Just been watching some 80's 500cc Grand Prix's on youtube and noticed that a lot of the races were started by the national flag, and the bikes were pushed started.

Does anyone know which Grand Prix was the last to be started by a flag? And which Grand Prix did the riders have to push start their bikes?


As far as I remember, '87 was the first GP season with clutch starts, not so sure about the flag/light issue


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#21880 marksjackson

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 19:06

Being pursued by Stu Baker, Snett 81 I think

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So could that be my bike back in the day, or did mine end up with Fran Ridewood's rider (photos seem more elusive)?

My chassis number is pretty memorable (rg500-11115), but I believe it had replacement cases when John Woodley was racing it, so the engine number would not match.

I know that mine was on display in an Isle of man casino/amusement arcade or similar for many years, until the venue closed in the mid 2000s, but would love to know more.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 19:08

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John Woodley tipping it into turn 1 at Oran Park.

Pic by Murray Hill.


What a great photo! :up:

Lovely warm "High Summer" colours and a very stylish... er... style!

#21882 rd500

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 21:38

hi folks thought i would check first, i was cleaning out part of the house and found an old box of various press realeases and black and white photos from the donington gp1987 to 1991, would anyone like to see this stuff and should i put it here or start a new thread as it runs into 1991?

i dont have a scanner but i can do my best to get them up.

#21883 picblanc

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 22:29

Start a Donington GP thread for it, be good to see some new photos. :up: :wave:

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 19:25

So could that be my bike back in the day, or did mine end up with Fran Ridewood's rider (photos seem more elusive)?

My chassis number is pretty memorable (rg500-11115), but I believe it had replacement cases when John Woodley was racing it, so the engine number would not match.

I know that mine was on display in an Isle of man casino/amusement arcade or similar for many years, until the venue closed in the mid 2000s, but would love to know more.



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Bob on the rebuilt ex' John Woodley Mk 2 after it was almost totaled , i'll dig out the press release as soon as I can find it :rolleyes: , battling with Brendan Mckenna



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Posted 18 October 2012 - 11:59

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as promised , the press cutting from Motorcycle Racing , incidentally , Bob suffered 3 heart attacks about a month ago , but is making a good recovery












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Posted 18 October 2012 - 14:58

Hi Phil :wave: ,
When you next see the Marks boys, please give them my best regards!
Rob and I both won our first ever races on the same day as each other - at a wet and windy Llandow in the early seventies (me on my Seeley, Rob on a 500 Norton twin). Rob went on to have more success than I did it's fair to say, but the absolute joy of that occasion will stay with me forever! As any racer will tell you, there's nothing quite like the feeling of winning that first race! As a bit of trivia - Rob, I believe has the distinction of being the first ever race winner at Donnington (in the modern era) when he won the first heat of the day at the first meeting there.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 15:15

Hi Phil :wave: ,
When you next see the Marks boys, please give them my best regards!
Rob and I both won our first ever races on the same day as each other - at a wet and windy Llandow in the early seventies (me on my Seeley, Rob on a 500 Norton twin). Rob went on to have more success than I did it's fair to say, but the absolute joy of that occasion will stay with me forever! As any racer will tell you, there's nothing quite like the feeling of winning that first race! As a bit of trivia - Rob, I believe has the distinction of being the first ever race winner at Donnington (in the modern era) when he won the first heat of the day at the first meeting there.



A Friend of mine was the first outright lap record holder at Donington ( Bikes ) John Swingler


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Posted 18 October 2012 - 17:54

Hi Phil :wave: ,
When you next see the Marks boys, please give them my best regards!
Rob and I both won our first ever races on the same day as each other - at a wet and windy Llandow in the early seventies (me on my Seeley, Rob on a 500 Norton twin). Rob went on to have more success than I did it's fair to say, but the absolute joy of that occasion will stay with me forever! As any racer will tell you, there's nothing quite like the feeling of winning that first race! As a bit of trivia - Rob, I believe has the distinction of being the first ever race winner at Donnington (in the modern era) when he won the first heat of the day at the first meeting there.



Hi , Barry :wave:

I certainly will , I talk to Bill frequently , as you know and obviously the subject doesn't veer to far from those wonderful times we all had in those far off carefree days , of good times mixed unfortunately with the bad , was at Silverstone last weekend with Yendor ( Rod ) and was nice to reminisce ..................but what a shadow of its former glory is Silverstone now , reminds one of an open air prison .....................not that I have frequented one of them :lol: . Give me a text/ring when you are free , about time we caught up :kiss: should be at Pembrey , if CMRC run there in the spring :wave:


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as promised , the press cutting from Motorcycle Racing , incidentally , Bob suffered 3 heart attacks about a month ago , but is making a good recovery


Wow, thanks for the photo and cutting Phil. :up:

I'm going to have to create a proper "scrapbook" as I piece together the history. I have many restoration photos from it's recent years and hope to get a few "being used" ones next spring. I'm heading for the IoM tomorrow, hoping to seek out the place (Casino or similar?) that it was on display for many years (and some riding around in the rain!).

It's good to hear that Bob is recovering after what must have been a very scary time.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 22:18

A Friend of mine was the first outright lap record holder at Donington ( Bikes ) John Swingler

I remember John well, he was a quick lad, shame he had that big off at the TT I think he would have gone on to bigger things.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:40

I remember John well, he was a quick lad, shame he had that big off at the TT I think he would have gone on to bigger things.





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Posted 19 October 2012 - 12:02

Thanks zidder, I remember that race. I saw him at the Mount in Sept '86 and he was having a long look at Eero Hyvaarinen's RS500 which was up for sale in the paddock for 15k, on a bike like that I'm sure he would have surprised a few of the regulars.

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 13:54

So then the Manx is no more, it has now been rebranded as

http://www.bikesport...amp;newsid=8291

Oh my gawd!! :well:



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Posted 26 October 2012 - 16:05

Hi fellas I know some of you like the candid paddock shots so heres one I found WWWW? :confused:
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Sorry for the poor quality but I don't have the neg. ):

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 21:57

Little clue Andy please? the SAM? sticker I have seen somewhere before...its bugging me this one! :|

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 10:49

Little clue Andy please? the SAM? sticker I have seen somewhere before...its bugging me this one! :|


I believe from memory the sticker said SAME. The Female in the video is called Isobel!!!

Edited by andyb1963, 27 October 2012 - 10:51.


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Posted 27 October 2012 - 11:27

I believe from memory the sticker said SAME. The Female in the video is called Isobel!!!

And also 2 days after this was taken I watched Martin Wimmer Testing the first V4 Yamaha in europe at this circuit :eek:


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Posted 27 October 2012 - 15:16

And also 2 days after this was taken I watched Martin Wimmer Testing the first V4 Yamaha in europe at this circuit :eek:

Hockenheim...Maybe '86? Wolfgang Von Muralt?

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 06:40

Hockenheim...Maybe '86? Wolfgang Von Muralt?

Not 86 Mo :smoking: :

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 08:17

Hockenheim...Maybe '86? Wolfgang Von Muralt?



It looks like its a MK7 RG , that would make it 1983 ?

John.