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#22201 ShakenNstirred

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 00:23

RIP Barry Sheene, gone but never forgotten, cant believe its 10 years. he was a hero of mine and i have idolised him since I was a kid

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#22202 andyb1963

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 14:16

RIP Barry Sheene, gone but never forgotten, cant believe its 10 years. he was a hero of mine and i have idolised him since I was a kid

You're Sadly Missed Barry :wave:

#22203 Matthias

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 23:05

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#22204 picblanc

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 13:54

1976? no idea on who, Niko Bakker frame?

#22205 Matthias

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 22:20

Its definetly not a Bakker frame.

Picture above was taken in the U.K.

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But here is how the bike looked like when it was raced in the U.S.A.


#22206 SgtPepperoni

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 19:21

Its definetly not a Bakker frame.

Picture above was taken in the U.K.

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But here is how the bike looked like when it was raced in the U.S.A.

Hallo Matthias. Welcome to the site BTW. I'm a newie myself, sort of, but anyhow, do you own the machine in question, or are you just curious regarding the origins of this particular machine? Also, are you a collector or an enthusiast? Hope you don't mind me asking. :wave:


#22207 Macca

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 20:03

#88 was John Long's AMA racing number, certainly in 1980-81. I guess it's a frame made in the USA, maybe by Vesco?

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#22208 Paul Collins

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 21:00

#88 was John Long's AMA racing number, certainly in 1980-81. I guess it's a frame made in the USA, maybe by Vesco?

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For some reason those colours remind me of Dale Singleton?

#22209 GD66

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 21:40

I can only recall Roberto Pietri wearing #88.
Are they Morris mags ?

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#22210 Matthias

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 22:57

For some reason those colours remind me of Dale Singleton?

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For more reasons the colour scheme reminds me of this one. (McLaughlin's restored TZ750 )

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#22211 dcw

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 20:46

Hi All

WWW?

Not posted for a while, see this thread is slowing down. We should try to keep it going, don't think I have posted this before.

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#22212 Paul Collins

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 20:56

Hi All

Not posted for a while, see this thread is slowing down don't think this has posted before.

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Is it Mick Patrick & Harold Coppock? back in the days when we had summers :)

#22213 picblanc

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 21:00

Smashing photo David, more please! & post them in the Mick Patrick thread. :up:

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 21:02

Thruxton? 1976.

#22215 dcw

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 21:04

Smashing photo David, more please! & post them in the Mick Patrick thread. :up:


There is a Mick Patrick thread? will have a look.

#22216 dcw

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 21:08

Smashing photo David, more please! & post them in the Mick Patrick thread. :up:


It would have been an NG meeting so could be an airfield meeting, don't think NG were going to Thruxton then.

#22217 Matthias

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:47

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In these colours the bike is believed to be ridden by Tony Harris in the U.K. Does this name ring a bell?

#22218 picblanc

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 13:25

Indeed it does.

#22219 picblanc

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 13:27

Mick Robinson is good mates & still in contact with him, hopefully he can show him the photo?

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#22220 quack

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 21:15

Hi All

WWW?

Not posted for a while, see this thread is slowing down. We should try to keep it going, don't think I have posted this before.

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David

could be gaydon or wroughton or colerne or check what airfields had that type of hanger in the background

#22221 fil2.8

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 00:00

could be gaydon or wroughton or colerne or check what airfields had that type of hanger in the background



errr , from memory they all did , I think , you forgot Keevil and Staverton :confused:

#22222 Adrian Godden

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 22:01

I know all five in the shot but I'll wait until everyone's had a stab at them.

...ooo I..remember - late start as usual and had to spend all race catching up...hence frowed look - correct me but prob' would have scooped them at Clearways or Paddock - but not maybe BW - so BW could have won that....(had the same issue wth him in'76 at Silverstone!!!)....but we both Q on front row...BW being a Gnats tadger quicker.....is Barry still about?

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#22223 RC162

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 20:59

Here's some of the footage I took at the Centennial Classic at Assen in 1998. There seems to have been a good crowd despite what has been said. Not brilliant footage but hopefully the sounds will make up for that. Also nice to see Sheene on his 1975 Dutch GP winning bike or a very good copy. Some of them seemed to have been in race mode when they took all the MV's out for a spin.





#22224 philippe7

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 23:22

Nice one, thank you ! :up:

#22225 Paroni09

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 06:56

Here's some of the footage I took at the Centennial Classic at Assen in 1998. There seems to have been a good crowd despite what has been said. Not brilliant footage but hopefully the sounds will make up for that. Also nice to see Sheene on his 1975 Dutch GP winning bike or a very good copy. Some of them seemed to have been in race mode when they took all the MV's out for a spin.

Thanks.
Very nice video.

#22226 RC162

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 18:05

Here's some more from Assen 98 of the 50, 125, 250 and 350 but not in that order as you will see. One or two of the riders were having a go with each other. By the way is it true that Graham McGregor suffered a heart attack in the paddock during this event and if so is he still with us ?



#22227 SgtPepperoni

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 20:04

Thought this very poignant rostrum photo would make a great WWW.

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#22228 picblanc

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 20:17

Tom on left is it Otello Busherini on top step? & Patrick Pons on far right, other two not sure of?

#22229 picblanc

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 20:18

Olivier Chevallier next to Tom.

#22230 RC162

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 20:58

Last few bits of video from Assen 98 which includes Surtees looking real good on a Manx.



#22231 philippe7

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 21:40

...... the last one in the rostrum pic being Victor Palomo. The five of them, sadly, no longer with us .

Brno, 350cc race , 1975

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 07:08

...... the last one in the rostrum pic being Victor Palomo. The five of them, sadly, no longer with us .

Brno, 350cc race , 1975

Yes, all correct guys, and as you point out Philippe, all long gone. Tom Herron in 1979, Olivier Chevalier in 1980, Ortello Busherini in 1976, Victor Palomo in 1985 from heart failure, and Patrick Pons in 1980. A stark reminder of the dangers of the sport at the time. :(

#22233 picblanc

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 09:22

Why are they all on the podium not just first three?

#22234 tonyed

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 11:03

Why are they all on the podium not just first three?


Close racing in those days :clap:

#22235 SgtPepperoni

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 15:05

Why are they all on the podium not just first three?

It was a Czechish tradition to honor the first five in the GP's at the time. Not sure if they were the only ones to do it, but I must confess to never having seen it done anywhere else.

This is the 250 rostrum at the same GP.
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#22236 pierrepeterpedro

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 18:05

By the way is it true that Graham McGregor suffered a heart attack in the paddock during this event and if so is he still with us ?


Correct. He collapsed in the paddock and was resuscitated. A race meeting like that is probably one of the best places to have that happen to you. At home or in the street, he would have probably died. He had double bypass heart surgery and is still alive and kicking in Louth.

#22237 RC162

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 18:11

Correct. He collapsed in the paddock and was resuscitated. A race meeting like that is probably one of the best places to have that happen to you. At home or in the street, he would have probably died. He had double bypass heart surgery and is still alive and kicking in Louth.



Many thanks for letting me know. I heard the rumour in the paddock at the time and always wondered if it was true and how he was. Brilliant news to know he's ok.

#22238 GD66

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 22:19

[quote name='RC162' date='Apr 9 2013, 12:58' post='6216714']
Last few bits of video from Assen 98 which includes Surtees looking real good on a Manx.[quote]




Cheers for the clips, clearly my perception of the attendance was well askew. Top weekend ! :wave:

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#22239 philippe7

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 23:16

This is the 250 rostrum at the same GP.
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With a very happy Michel Rougerie on the top step, also gone in 1981 at Rijeka :cry:

Buscherini and Patrick Pons again in the top five, plus Leif Gustafsson and Dieter Braun, the latter two fortunately still being with us .

Incidentally, no wonder Braun was nicknamed "Big Dieter"...his head is almost level with the one of Rougerie, who is standing one step higher !

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#22240 exclubracer

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 14:23

Incidentally, no wonder Braun was nicknamed "Big Dieter"...his head is almost level with the one of Rougerie, who is standing one step higher !

Which makes his 125cc world championship in '70 even more impressive! How he ever managed to stuff himself inside the tiny Suzuki is a mystery.

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#22241 armchair

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 15:58

Which makes his 125cc world championship in '70 even more impressive! How he ever managed to stuff himself inside the tiny Suzuki is a mystery.

He gained the lead through his powerful push-starts, then spread his legs across the track, harness racing style, and nobody could beat him:
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By the way, ex-works Suzukis won in 1970 and were runner-up in 1971 against factory machinery.

#22242 Mick Robinson

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 16:54

[quote name='Matthias' date='Mar 24 2013, 08:47' post='6192456']
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In these colours the bike is believed to be ridden by Tony Harris in the U.K. Does this name ring a bell?


Tony Harris rode a TZ750 in '78 '79, it was in Geoff Daryn colours....Orange and white.





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Posted 11 April 2013 - 20:14

By the way, ex-works Suzukis won in 1970 and were runner-up in 1971 against factory machinery.

Yes indeed, didn't Barry just lose out to Angel Nieto by one point in the last race of the season?

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 21:17

1971 125ccm championship ........... click.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 20:32

1971 125ccm championship ........... click.

Thank you HEMEYLA, my memory let me down, yet again! :rolleyes:

#22246 fil2.8

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 21:55

Thank you HEMEYLA, my memory let me down, yet again! :rolleyes:



as long as you remember Darley next weekend , Mick :rolleyes: :lol: :wave:


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Posted 15 April 2013 - 17:45

as long as you remember Darley next weekend , Mick :rolleyes: :lol: :wave:

Yes I'll be there Phil, don't yet know by which mode of transport though, still struggling to get in the campervan, hampered by lack of bendiness in the left knee :rolleyes:

Might have to dust off the old Shogun and blow the cobwebs out of it :D I have a set of starting rollers to deliver to one of the CRMC boys so I'll be there early Saturday, see you there :wave:



#22248 fil2.8

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 18:26

Yes I'll be there Phil, don't yet know by which mode of transport though, still struggling to get in the campervan, hampered by lack of bendiness in the left knee :rolleyes:

Might have to dust off the old Shogun and blow the cobwebs out of it :D I have a set of starting rollers to deliver to one of the CRMC boys so I'll be there early Saturday, see you there :wave:



Well done , that's the spirit :up: , i'm struggling for transport also ,............................having to hire a car , i'll explain when I see you :well:


Starting rollers , eh , could do with something like that ...............or a paddock starter , if anyone has one , surplus to requirements  ;) :up:


#22249 exclubracer

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 20:48

pm'd ya Phil. :wave:

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 13:15

In these colours the bike is believed to be ridden by Tony Harris in the U.K. Does this name ring a bell?


Tony Harris rode a TZ750 in '78 '79, it was in Geoff Daryn colours....Orange and white.
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He also rode it in 1977. I've got a photo somewhere of him in the Lord of Lydden final and I also know he rode it in the British Clubmans Championship round at Brands that year.