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#22251 picblanc

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 13:42

Tony Harris 1977.
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#22252 doublos

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 11:54

Tony Harris 1977.
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Thanks for the picture, good memories..
Before this one wasn't it Norton commando engine in a Rickman frame ?

#22253 picblanc

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 13:12

Yes he rode a Rickman Mettisse, got a photo somewhere?

#22254 billlawrence

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 01:30

Yes he rode a Rickman Mettisse, got a photo somewhere?

Yes I well remember Tony racing this bike at Lydden complete with fluorescent vest could have been his first race .Didnt he win the Bill Ivy silver Helmet? Bill Lawrence

#22255 Robin127

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 13:26

Yes he rode a Rickman Mettisse, got a photo somewhere?



I've got one, I posted it a couple of years ago, can't remember which thread it was in. I'll have to dig it out and re-scan it, I cleaned my PC up a couple of months ago and got rid of a bunch of stuff that I didn't think I'd need again.

#22256 Russell Burrows

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 15:36

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Anyone remember this dude? From memory he had some support from Geoff Monty - deserved as he was no slouch. I think he was in Britain only during '71, later returning home to Zambia. I wonder what happened to him? (photo courtesy of Uncle AJ)

After a bit Gooling: seems he fetched up in Melbourne at some stage....

Mention of the Victorian capital reminds me of a conversation I had with an old bike racer who was a fare in my cab in Sydney. This bloke, who had moved to Melbourne from elsewhere in the World, struck up a conversation about bikes, in the process regaling me with tales of daring do during his time as a GP racer in the 70's. He was a bit less animated though when after identifying himself as a reasonably well known club and national runner from the period - who I had almost certainly raced against myself - I couldn't quite stop myself from gently letting him know that I knew.....

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#22257 Giovanni

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 19:30

A friendly greeting to all,and sincere congratulations for this very interesting topic.
I write this message for to request kindly your precious collaboration.
I seek some photo's and information regarding the motorcycle Spondon 500 driven by the irish rider Tony Carey in the World and European GP500 Championships of the years 1988 and 1989.
I hope sincerely that someone can help me.

See you soon.

#22258 knickerbrook

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 20:22

Mention of the Victorian capital reminds me of a conversation I had with an old bike racer who was a fare in my cab in Sydney. This bloke, who had moved to Melbourne from elsewhere in the World, struck up a conversation about bikes, in the process regaling me with tales of daring do during his time as a GP racer in the 70's. He was a bit less animated though when after identifying himself as a reasonably well known club and national runner from the period - who I had almost certainly raced against myself - I couldn't quite stop myself from gently letting him know that I knew.....

C'mon Russ - don't leave us hanging - who was it?

#22259 Russell Burrows

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 23:55

C'mon Russ - don't leave us hanging - who was it?

Like to Barry, but since he's something of a big shot nowadays and libel cases are notoriously difficult to defend.....

Edited by Russell Burrows, 30 April 2013 - 14:43.


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#22260 Robin127

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 02:14

Like too Barry, but since he's something of a big shot nowadays and libel cases are notoriously difficult to defend.....


Can we guess? :)

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 06:01

Like too Barry, but since he's something of a big shot nowadays and libel cases are notoriously difficult to defend.....


You can't be libeled for an anagram !

#22262 knickerbrook

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 13:46

Would the letter T be significant by any chance?

#22263 Russell Burrows

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 15:03

Would the letter T be significant by any chance?

Nope  ;)

#22264 Robin127

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 15:18

Would the letter T be significant by any chance?


Maybe we were both thinking of the same bloke :)


#22265 khsuzukitr500

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 17:46

how about M.?.?.

#22266 Russell Burrows

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Posted 04 May 2013 - 19:12

Rob Moorhouse, an Australian domiciled Englishman, who would tow his bikes to meetings with a Roller, the roof of which was painted with a huge Union Jack, was killed at Bathurst in 1980 after crashing his TZ 750 on the mountain. By this time I had drifted away from bikes and was only vaguely aware of his exploits. Does anyone out there, in particular you antipodeans, know more about Rob and his life and times ?
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Posted 23 May 2013 - 19:20

Rob Moorhouse, an Australian domiciled Englishman, who would tow his bikes to meetings with a Roller, the roof of which was painted with a huge Union Jack, was killed at Bathurst in 1980 after crashing his TZ 750 on the mountain. By this time I had drifted away from bikes and was only vaguely aware of his exploits. Does anyone out there, in particular you antipodeans, know more about Rob and his life and times ?
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That is a cracking helmet design so simple, much better than the over designed helmets of today.

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 17:05

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#22269 picblanc

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 17:46

Graziano Rossi, Franco Uncini & Loris Regianni 1982.

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 11:18

Graziano Rossi, Franco Uncini & Loris Regianni 1982.


My first thought was Salzburgring... probably the bales.
Or somewhere where they paint messages on the track.
Which may mean a closed road track.
Spa?
Why such high numbers for works riders?

#22271 GD66

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 13:09

Possibly Imola ? Ago loaned Crosby's OW60 to Rossi who trowelled it at an Italian national meeting at Imola just before the season-ending Hockenheim GP at the end of '82.

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 19:05

My first thought was Salzburgring... probably the bales.
Or somewhere where they paint messages on the track.
Which may mean a closed road track.
Spa?
Why such high numbers for works riders?

Indeed, Spa-Francorchamps it is. GP 500cc 1982, warming up, Uncini, Reggiani and Graziano Rossi.


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Posted 24 June 2013 - 19:34

Also at Francorchamps 250cc race, one of my favorate racers which did quiet good also at Silverstone in the early eighties.
Anyone?
Could someone help me with a scan for tehe entrylists for that GP (125, 250, 500cc)?
Thanks a lott!
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#22274 tz125global

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 08:56

HI
there was 1 orpin greeves raced in ireland by austin kinsella
he beat ralph bryans on the honda 6 in mondello park and
broke the lap record :clap:

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 15:59

Also at Francorchamps 250cc race, one of my favorate racers which did quiet good also at Silverstone in the early eighties.
Anyone?
Could someone help me with a scan for tehe entrylists for that GP (125, 250, 500cc)?
Thanks a lott!
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Is it Michel Simeon?

#22276 Russell Burrows

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 20:02

Nice shot, aye, but no prizes for identifying these dudes or where they are as the light fades on what appears to be a winter's afternoon.
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Posted 22 July 2013 - 21:38

Warren Willing, Greg Hansford OR Murray Sayle, and John Woodley. As to where, somewhere in Australia I guess since the Aussies ride with numbers and the Kiwi with a letter....had it been in Unzud, it would have been the other way round, wouldn't it ?



edit : nice pic, indeed..... and it has to be "Harry" with #2 .....

Edited by philippe7, 22 July 2013 - 21:45.


#22278 Russell Burrows

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 09:09

Warren Willing, Greg Hansford OR Murray Sayle, and John Woodley. As to where, somewhere in Australia I guess since the Aussies ride with numbers and the Kiwi with a letter....had it been in Unzud, it would have been the other way round, wouldn't it ?
edit : nice pic, indeed..... and it has to be "Harry" with #2 .....

You're probably right on the letter thing, Philippe, ...why did they do that anyway ? They're at a corner once known as Energol, the last before the finish line, at Sydney's Oran Park.

#22279 philippe7

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 10:33

If it's during the antipodean "winter", then I guess it has to be sometimes in 1976 . Can't be earlier than that ( since John Woodley is on a customer RG500 which first appeared for the 76 season - well maybe in very late 75 for a few select aussies/kiwis...) and it can't be later either since Warren Willing his riding an "early model" TZ750 judging by the fairing ( probably his ex-Ago OW29 ) whereas in 77 he had graduated to a TZ "D" model whose fairing was visually very different.

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#22280 Russell Burrows

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 11:30

If it's during the antipodean "winter", then I guess it has to be sometimes in 1976 . Can't be earlier than that ( since John Woodley is on a customer RG500 which first appeared for the 76 season - well maybe in very late 75 for a few select aussies/kiwis...) and it can't be later either since Warren Willing his riding an "early model" TZ750 judging by the fairing ( probably his ex-Ago OW29 ) whereas in 77 he had graduated to a TZ "D" model whose fairing was visually very different.

I might have made up the bit about winter - has that feel about it though. logically it won't be cos they would be over here racing. Long shadows and and smidgen more light on the right side of fairings and leathers (west), tells us it's in the late pm.

#22281 GD66

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 13:14

Spotted at the far end of the Oran Park start straight, seemingly at the same meeting...
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Pic by Murray Hill.

Probably late summer, just before going back to Europe for John. But winter IS of course race season in Australia, it's too bloody hot in summer...
I can recall sitting on the dummy grid at the Phillip Island Classic in black leathers on a 43 deg day in late January and wishing for a cool breeze, any breeze... :blush:

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#22282 philippe7

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 22:22

I might have made up the bit about winter - has that feel about it though. logically it won't be cos they would be over here racing.


By here, do you mean "Europe" Russel ? If so, then I don't think John and Warren came to Europe that early (1976, if we agree that's when your pic - and Glen's too - were taken ) . I have a feeling that they both started on the Grand Prix circus ( might have done the odd international earlier...) mid-1977 , at the French GP at Paul Ricard. A while ago I had posted the two pics below on the Marlboro Series thread, taken by my friend Pierre Gabriele on that occasion. John on a RG of course, Warren on his home-made Yamaha , a 750TZD equipped with two 250cc tops.

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 00:14

Rothmans Pro Series final I think is the photo. A lot of people in Oz refer to it as the best race they've ever seen, it was won by Hansford who passed Warren at that corner on the second last lap under brakes. Pretty sure Warren rode that OW29 all thru '77 and got the D model for '78 and onto Europe. He went to Daytona I think more than once before he went to Europe.

I know a lot of people hold Hansford in that "greatest" category but I just can't see how he could have been better than Warren. The guy never fell off and could beat anybody on the planet on the right bike.

#22284 GD66

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 06:52

Rothmans Pro Series final I think is the photo. A lot of people in Oz refer to it as the best race they've ever seen, it was won by Hansford who passed Warren at that corner on the second last lap under brakes.



Nice going Hass, 29th August 1976. :wave:
More pics (including Russell's one) here...
http://www.motorspor...ustralian-race/


#22285 Russell Burrows

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 08:51

Nice going Hass, 29th August 1976. :wave:
More pics (including Russell's one) here...
http://www.motorspor...ustralian-race/

Reciprocity, son, reciprocity  ;) .

#22286 Russell Burrows

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 09:28

Think I can ID only one of these blokes.
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Posted 24 July 2013 - 09:44

I think I have three...


And you were pretty right with the late-afternoon shadows Russell, August is the end of winter. Doesn't look too cold, though...

Edited by GD66, 24 July 2013 - 09:48.


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Posted 24 July 2013 - 10:12

I think I have three...
And you were pretty right with the late-afternoon shadows Russell, August is the end of winter. Doesn't look too cold, though...

I'm assuming that's Jack Saunders riding round the lot of 'em, maybe on his G50 too? Is 5 on an RG Suzuki ? He looks familiar but I can't recall his name.

I used to prefer winter, especially when doing those crazy hours in a cab.

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 10:26

Yep, I reckon that's Jack Saunders on #53 mate. #5 is Greg Johnson on the RG500, he's also in that set of pics on the Motorsport Retro link.
I think #20 is Lee Roebuck, and #30 on the Z1 might be Roy Denison.

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 10:36

Is 5 on an RG Suzuki ? He looks familiar but I can't recall his name.


Greg Johnson ? he's mentioned as being in a pic in a commentary of the article linked above, same number, same helmet design

I must confess that at first sight I thought this B&W pic was from the 60's....guess it was some sort of allcomers race then, if you had an RG mixing with british singles and a large-handelbared sort of street bike ? :confused:


edit : beaten to the pole by Glen...

#22291 Russell Burrows

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 10:53

Yep, I reckon that's Jack Saunders on #53 mate. #5 is Greg Johnson on the RG500, he's also in that set of pics on the Motorsport Retro link.
I think #20 is Lee Roebuck, and #30 on the Z1 might be Roy Denison.

Ah the very name... Roy was another Bennett Honda guy. I remember trying to flog him my Mach I Ducati.

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 10:56

Greg Johnson ? he's mentioned as being in a pic in a commentary of the article linked above, same number, same helmet design

I must confess that at first sight I thought this B&W pic was from the 60's....guess it was some sort of allcomers race then, if you had an RG mixing with british singles and a large-handelbared sort of street bike ? :confused:


edit : beaten to the pole by Glen...

There were always lots of Unlimited races back then. A C grader with a 250 could get five or six starts per meeting.

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Posted 27 July 2013 - 15:52

Is it Michel Simeon?


No sorry, it isn't. Michel broke his legg in last practice 250cc (near Eau Rouge) on this GP and couldn't defend 10th position on the grid.


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Posted 28 July 2013 - 16:18

Also at Francorchamps 250cc race, one of my favorate racers which did quiet good also at Silverstone in the early eighties.
Anyone?
Could someone help me with a scan for tehe entrylists for that GP (125, 250, 500cc)?
Thanks a lott!
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Hi,

This is J M Toffolo from Belgium, he is riding a steel framed Nico Bakker Rotax. I bought a similar frame from Nico Bakker back then, still have it and now I use it in ICGP, a series organized by Eric saul. We will be at Cadwell Park end of August same meeting as the BSB.

Cheers,
Leif

PS! I have a picture from the gris at Anderstorp 1982 where both Toffolo and I are on the Nico Bakker Rotaxes, I will find it and get it scanned:-)

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 09:25

Hi,

This is J M Toffolo from Belgium, he is riding a steel framed Nico Bakker Rotax. I bought a similar frame from Nico Bakker back then, still have it and now I use it in ICGP, a series organized by Eric saul. We will be at Cadwell Park end of August same meeting as the BSB.

Cheers,
Leif

PS! I have a picture from the gris at Anderstorp 1982 where both Toffolo and I are on the Nico Bakker Rotaxes, I will find it and get it scanned:-)



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Yes, Leif. This is the one on that bike. Jean Marc Toffolo at the GP 250cc Francorchamps 1982. I Will look in my super -8 filmmaterial if I could find some from You.
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Posted 29 July 2013 - 11:43

[quote name='yslandvoarder' date='Jul 29 2013, 10:25' post='6374250']
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Yes, Leif. This is the one on that bike. Jean Marc Toffolo at the GP 250cc Francorchamps 1982. I Will look in my super -8 filmmaterial if I could find some from You.


Hi,

Here is a picture from Anderstorp 1982, where I am on a similar bike to Toffolos, number 5 is Patric Fernandez, 48 is Brunu Lusher, number 27 is Grassel from Germany, not sure who has number 50 :lol:

I will upload a picture of how the bike looks today :wave:

Cheers,
Leif

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 21:22

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Who would have guessed at the time that two of those riders would be public figures in France 30 years later ?

Alongside Toffolo on the second row, Christian Estrosi, currently Mayor of the city of Nice and member of the French parliament - he's one of the "hard-liners" in the right wing UMP party of former President Sarkozy, for whom he was also a Minister in the government for many years.

And behind him on the third row, Jacques Bolle who is now Chairman of the French Motorcycling Federation, and apparently making quite a good job of it as far as I know

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 10:24

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Who would have guessed at the time that two of those riders would be public figures in France 30 years later ?

Alongside Toffolo on the second row, Christian Estrosi, currently Mayor of the city of Nice and member of the French parliament - he's one of the "hard-liners" in the right wing UMP party of former President Sarkozy, for whom he was also a Minister in the government for many years.

And behind him on the third row, Jacques Bolle who is now Chairman of the French Motorcycling Federation, and apparently making quite a good job of it as far as I know

Good morning Philippe,

I did not know the Rotax period of Jean Marc Toffolo. He was a good friend in his yamaha period, one of the last one being a 350 bimota which was sold to a french friend, see picture below. These bikes had kevlar tank, seat and fairing horribly expensive to replace hence the ugly patches on the fairing.

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 22:07

Good morning Philippe,

I did not know the Rotax period of Jean Marc Toffolo. He was a good friend in his yamaha period, one of the last one being a 350 bimota which was sold to a french friend, see picture below. These bikes had kevlar tank, seat and fairing horribly expensive to replace hence the ugly patches on the fairing.

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Sorry, I may be missing something here but even in my day (used tyres for the race in the MGP) we did have something called paint! And even in those days it was compatible with Kevlar and we managed to use it between practice session & race (as long as you didn't get too close to the bike)!

Paul

In fairness the distance thing probably applied to my bikes in general by the end of the season!

Edited by PaulMar, 01 August 2013 - 22:10.


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Posted 01 August 2013 - 22:30

Good morning Philippe,

I did not know the Rotax period of Jean Marc Toffolo. He was a good friend in his yamaha period, one of the last one being a 350 bimota which was sold to a french friend, see picture below. These bikes had kevlar tank, seat and fairing horribly expensive to replace hence the ugly patches on the fairing.

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Salut Doublos

I have alwys thought that the Bimota used by Jean-Marc Toffolo in 1979 ( same as the one in your picture above, then ) was the very same machine used by Michel Rougerie in 1978 . I haven't seen any other Bimota painted in those colours, which of course doesn't prove anything, but nevertheless .... see pics linked below on Manfred Mothes site

http://www.highsider...ffolo_79_01.htm
http://www.highsider...gerie_78_01.htm