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#1 km1164

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 17:02

Hi :wave:

I own the ex Gustav Fischer 1978 DRM BMW 320i Gp 5 race car and i seek some info photos any race mag articles on the car and driver

I am told the car was possibly built up by Gustav from the remans of the works BMW car from DRM round 1 1977 when Eddie Cheever? wrote off his car
Many teams built their own cars from the kit that BMW motorsport sold back then

i have looked up some the DRM races are for 1978 as it seems he raced the car only 4/5 times this year and i list below the result/ position in Div 2 class & race number for my car
here is a link to the GS tuning thread where i have also asked about my car and a photo is thereof my car in dayglo red livery
http://forums.autosp...299#post3277299

Later in 82 I am informed that Kenneth Leim of Sweden had the car at the Silvertsone 6 hour race but DNQ DNA at 3 other races that years but seemed to qualify for Spa 1000 km race but i think event was abandoned

Later the car goes to Scandanavia to race as do 2 or 3 other BMW 320i Gp 5 cars

Today the car is metallic white & has the name on it now of John K Westman but i have not yet googled him but on 10-10 forum i have had a guy with swedish / norwegian saloon car & GT website list some info but no photos yet

I list below events dates results car number and wonder if anyone has more info from euro race magazines any photos of the car at the races especially under bonnet photos in car shots of the dash cockpit etc :cool:

I am not sure if Gustav Fischer had his own tuning garage business but i have seen in the 75 76 DRM results he raced a 2002 car and i wonder of he is still around

DRM Mainz-Finthen Date: 18.6.1978
4. 76 Gustav Fischer (D) BMW 320 Valvoline Deutschland

DRM Zandvoort Date: 2.7.1978
8. - Gustav Fischer (D) BMW 320 Valvoline Deutschland

DRM Kassel-Calden Date: 16.7.1978
6. 74 Gustav Fischer (D) BMW 320 Gustav Fischer


DRM Hockenheim Date: 29.7.1978
. 76 Gustav Fischer (D) BMW 320 Gustav Fischer


DRM Zolder Date: 20.8.1978

Gustav Fischer (D) BMW 320 Valvoline Deutschland 10 DNF

DRM Norisring Date: 17.9.1978
74 Gustav Fischer (D) BMW 320 Valvoline Deutschland 37 DNF



Silverstone 6 hours 16.5.1982

75 Kenneth Leim / S BMW 320i Kenneth Leim 37 Head gasket Gr.5 38. 1:40,620 Kurt Simonsen / S - DND

Spa 1000 km
practise
69 Leim - Simonsen BMW 320 2'49"18
car is colour white sponsor Budweiser Granges Aluminium

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#2 Frank de Jong

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 17:48

Cheever did destroy a car in free practice at Zolder so that part of the story is correct.

#3 km1164

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Posted 31 August 2008 - 10:05

It would be great to get some magazione articles about it or even some period photos to build up the cars history
also great of Gustav Fischer is still around to talkwith
anyone know where Kenneth Leim is? :

#4 eukie

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 19:20

Fischer did even win a race in 1978, albeit a low-key affair: the production-car class at the Flugplatzrennen Erding, 01 October 1978. Second place went to Gerhard Lipp (Toyota Celica), third was Karl Hurler (BMW 3,0 CSL).
Source: Sporfahrer 11/1978

#5 km1164

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 10:50

Thanks for info if you find more info please let me know :D
would love to see more photos of the car do you know of any race fans who visited the races and took photos?
Is there a german historic race car website like this site where you may find some guys talking about cars

#6 Nordic

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 11:49

There are 5 pages of group 5 photos taken at Zolder here.

Not sure what your car looked like then, but there are quite a few 320's featured.

http://www.bsim-raci...=1947&page=1947

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 21:33

Huh :drunk: ? I thought the Fischer car was owned by Kevan McLurg?

Have a look over on the 'other' forum, I unearthed a photo of the car not long ago from a german magazine. If you're Kevan of course, you already have it.

#8 km1164

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Posted 07 October 2008 - 15:33

Nordic
thanks for link :clap: i can see 2 photos of what i think is my car but they are too small to see clearly
need to locate H.Schulz!!!

#9 eukie

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Posted 07 October 2008 - 16:49

Two photos Avus 1978, posted by Randy52 at flickr (http://flickr.com/ph...57603371829567/).

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#10 km1164

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 09:18

Great thanks for link
i had seen these fotos before but could not recall where
i have tried to google Hartmut schulz and found his hosting of his fotos on a similar site ( and on the riccardo patrese website) but i cannot find a way to contact him
maybe the german speakers can get a better link to him
i am very keen to get some static shots of the car and internal car shots before i start the strip down
i am torn as to how to rebuild the car

1 do i repaint in the red as Gustav raced the car
2 do i become a tart and repiant in a famous livery warsteiner is my 1st choice jaegermeister is 2nd NO i iwll NOT paint in BMW works colours that is being too much of a sad "tart"

#11 Frank de Jong

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 11:43

You can contact him through his family site which is mentioned on the photo cumminity site.

#12 km1164

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 14:07

thanks for info
i sent email but the address is failing :eek: :confused:

#13 km1164

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Posted 25 November 2008 - 23:28

Does anyone have any photos of these cars with wheels off showing suspension?
I have removed my wheels to inspect underneath looking for comparable photos
i have some form the BMW museum 320 cars from a friend sadly not as good as i would have liked BUT the museum cars are MINT

#14 Frank de Jong

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Posted 26 November 2008 - 08:29

I know Revell made plastic 1/24 scale models with full suspension details.

#15 Ted Walker

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Posted 26 November 2008 - 08:43

Kevin, If you care to contact me I think I might have some detail shots taken in Switzerland of a car.

#16 km1164

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Posted 26 November 2008 - 15:33

ted email sent
i did find some pics on a race car sales site that are useful for me to compare with my car :clap:

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Posted 26 November 2008 - 17:46

Originally posted by Frank de Jong
I know Revell made plastic 1/24 scale models with full suspension details.

Actually, that kit originated with ESCI in Italy, and the suspension detail isn't great, certainly not enough to use as reference for a 1:1-scale restoration. The Tamiya kit of the car is even worse in that respect.

km1164, I have some detail photos of the engine, interior and boot of a works 320i Turbo owned by BMW of North America. If you're interested, email or PM me and I can scan them for you.