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#1 Makarias

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Posted 06 September 2008 - 14:34

How to enter: Just submit your guess for what the pole time will be, and who you think will take pole.
Ten position penalties are ignored if and only if they are due to disciplinary reasons.

Deadline:
Full entry is accepted only for entries submitted/edited before the start of first free practice.
Guesses entered or edited after first free practice will get a penalty in the form of an added time gap between the guess and the pole time: 0.100 s for "Default" tracks, 0.400 s for "Modified Layout" tracks, 0.900 s for "New" tracks.
Final deadline is whenever I choose to register the entries; typically Friday evening CET. But always after first free practice. In case of me being absent and not able to register the entries in time, the absolute final deadline is the start of Saturday practice.

Scoring rules

-The best eight guessers (closest to the actual pole position time) Score points F1 style, 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1.

-Precision points are given to every participant whose guess was sufficiently close the actual pole position time according to this list:

	 <-----------Time offsets----------->

Pts  Default   Modified Layout  New Track  [s]

10   - 0.050	   - 0.100	   - 0.150

 8   - 0.100	   - 0.200	   - 0.300

 6   - 0.200	   - 0.400	   - 0.600

 5   - 0.400	   - 0.800	   - 1.200

 4   - 0.600	   - 1.200	   - 1.800

 3   - 0.800	   - 1.600	   - 2.400

 2   - 1.200	   - 2.400	   - 3.600

 1   - 2.000	   - 4.000	   - 6.000
The first race of the season counts as a Modified Layout unless it's brand new.
A track that wasn't used the previous season also counts as a Modified Layout.
A track that hasn't been used for the previous five seasons counts as a New Track.

-Driver Points are given for correctly guessing the driver to take pole position. The amount of points given depends on the current value of the driver, according to this list:

Pts   Recent qualifying results

 5	 0 front row starts in the previous five races

 4	 1 front row start in the previous five races

 3	 2 front row starts in the previous five races

 2	 3-5 front row starts in the previous five races

2008 standings after Belgium




[b]Three latest poles at Italy:

Year  Driver	   Pole time (s)[/b]

2007  Alonso	   81.997

2006  Räikkönen	81.484

2005  Montoya	  81.054





[b]Driver values:

Dri  val[/b]

Hami  2

Mass  2 

Kova  3 

Webb  4

REST  5 





[b]2008 data:

				  Time	2007	 2007 fastest  2008/2007  

GP   Pole  #2	  (s)	pole(s)  race lap (s)	 (%)	   [/b]

OZ   Hami  Kubi   86.714   86.072   85.235	   100.746

MAL  Mass  Räik   95.748   95.043   96.701	   100.742

BAH  Kubi  Mass   93.096   92.652   94.067	   100.479

ESP  Räik  Alon   81.813   81.421   82.680	   100.481

TUR  Mass  Kova   87.617   87.329   87.295	   100.330

MON  Mass  Räik   75.787   75.726   75.284	   100.081

CAN  Hami  Kubi   77.886   75.707   76.367	   102.878

FRA  Räik  Mass   76.449   75.034   76.099	   101.886

GB   Kova  Webb   81.049   79.997   80.638	   101.315

GER  Hami  Mass   75.666   ------   ------		------

HUN  Hami  Kova   80.899   79.674   80.047	   101.538

EUR  Mass  Hami   98.989   ------   ------		------

BEL  Hami  Mass  107.338  105.994  108.036	   101.268

ITA						81.997   82.871			  

SIN						------   ------		------

JAP						85.368   88.193			  

CHN						95.908   97.454			  

BRA

My guess for Italy is 82.809 s by Felipe Massa.

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#2 dank

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 09:22

Hamilton - 82.890

#3 Frogman

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 14:14

Raikkonen - 83.064

At least I'm on time now.;)

#4 mimin

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 04:42

82.455 F. Massa

#5 Apex

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 19:49

93.028 - Massa

#6 scheivlak

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 21:38

Massa 83.119

#7 fisichella_2001

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 09:28

82.746 - L Hamilton

#8 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 11:21

Hami - 82:711

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#9 brunopascal

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 13:10

Hamilton - 82.826

#10 estoril85

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 17:31

hamilton 82.741

#11 italiansdoitbetter

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 18:14

82.005 hamilton

#12 dnbn

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 21:59

91.462 Alonso

#13 boost

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 01:59

hami 82.415

#14 Estwald

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 05:44

83.208 Massa

#15 Kooper

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 14:58

92.997 - Hamilton


anyone know where to find a rainy emoticon? ;)

#16 kismet

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 17:02

82.888 - Hamilton

#17 Crazy Canuck

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 17:16

Hamilton 83.063

#18 AcuraF1

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 18:29

Hamilton 82.727

#19 D82

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 18:33

83.210 - massa

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#20 THE HUMAN MAN

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 19:22

Lewis Hamilton - 1.22.799

#21 Xig

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 19:45

Massa - 82.621

#22 ville

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 19:45

82.650 - Hamilton

#23 LB

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 20:05

82.973 Massa

#24 garth_b

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 23:30

82.735 Raikkonen

#25 shays

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Posted 12 September 2008 - 00:58

82.388 - Hamilton

#26 MattFoster

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Posted 12 September 2008 - 04:23

Massa 82.888

#27 Makarias

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Posted 12 September 2008 - 22:57

No more entries!

#28 Makarias

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Posted 12 September 2008 - 23:03

That's a late edit for Apex, incurring the 0.1 second penalty.

#29 Kooper

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Posted 13 September 2008 - 02:12

Originally posted by Makarias
That's a late edit for Apex, incurring the 0.1 second penalty.


Sure is convenient to watch both Friday FPs, have all the latest weather forecasts in hand and then edit your time guess adding 0.031s to the slowest time posted. And only 14h-17s after beginning of FP1.

That may be within the rules but it damn sure is against the spirit of fair competition. :down:

#30 Apex

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Posted 13 September 2008 - 16:16

Originally posted by Kooper


Sure is convenient to watch both Friday FPs, have all the latest weather forecasts in hand and then edit your time guess adding 0.031s to the slowest time posted. And only 14h-17s after beginning of FP1.

That may be within the rules but it damn sure is against the spirit of fair competition. :down:

Spirit, schmirit.... This is an F1 forum. You're supposed to bend the rules every once in a while. Also, if I interpret the rules correctly, your guess still wins due to my 0.1 s penalty.

#31 Kooper

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Posted 14 September 2008 - 01:00

Originally posted by Apex

Spirit, schmirit.... This is an F1 forum. You're supposed to bend the rules every once in a while. Also, if I interpret the rules correctly, your guess still wins due to my 0.1 s penalty.


This is indeed an F1 Forum. Not a Schumacher Jerez/Rascasse forum or Hamilton/Spa forum. The rules allow what you did but still its not right. No one should have an unfair advantage.

Apex * Hamilton * 83.117

#32 scheivlak

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Posted 14 September 2008 - 07:49

Originally posted by Makarias
That's a late edit for Apex, incurring the 0.1 second penalty.

As Apex had obviously submitted an entry before, I would think that best way to handle this would be to simply annull his corrected time...

Otherwise this will become a very alluring precedent!

#33 LB

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Posted 14 September 2008 - 10:50

Mind you had the weather forecast been wrong he would have been hung out to dry literally