Originally posted by red stick
You've got to figure, based on the experience of the rise and fall of AGR, that Franchitti will be more helpful setting up cars at TGCR than Wheldon was, not that Dixon seemed to need the help last year. But it seems to me the early line has got to be among those three: Briscoe, Dixon, Franchitti.
Just for the sake of discussion:
1) Castroneves will either not race or face massive distractions.
2) Wheldon will not win another race.
3) Neither will Danica, unless she relearns something about road courses racing A1GP.
4) Vitor will.
This is from page one, November 17, 2008. Over 900 posts ago. FWIW, the NASCAR 2009 started the afternoon of the same day and now, with the NASCAR season opening, is closing on 370 posts. Evidently we can, and left to our own devices will, spend over 500 posts continuing the same endless and circular argument, presenting no new information, offering no fresh perspectives, displaying minimal wit, and changing not a single mind.
500 posts. Do we really enjoy hearing ourselves talk THAT much?
And before I'm referred to as an IRL-loving, Tony George ass-kissing, non-objective observer of the OW scene, let me make a few things clear that I haven't bothered to discuss here or anywhere else in this forum. I don't care for the man. I started young as a Mark Donohue fan. My idol growing up was Rick Mears. A lifelong Champ Car fan, and specifically a Penske Racing fan, in 1996, I, as a fan, sided with CART. I ignored every Indy 500 from 1996-1999. I didn't watch IRL races. To this day, I don't "get" jokes about Racin' Gardner--I never saw the man race. Nor the racing dentist, whatever his name was. Nor Tony Stewart, until he went to NASCAR. Luyendyk had a "fight" with AJ? Wouldn't have seen that if it wasn't on Sportscenter. Spent my own meager disposable income (public servant with substantial debt from student loans) to see CART races in Houston in 1998 and 1999.
When Ganassi went to Indy in 2000, I watched the race and cheered for Montoya. When Penske, Ganassi, etc., left CART for the IRL, I followed my heroes, but didn't hate CART. Like many fans at that point, I just wanted the split to end. I was thrilled when the IRL added road courses. Went to Watkins Glen in 2005 when IndyCar returned, but swore I'd have nothing to do with attending an actual Indy 500, a race I've never seen live, until ALL the drivers were there. In fact, the last race I attended live was the 2007 CCWS event at Road America. Wait, you ask, not the 2008 Indy 500? Why not the first post-merger 500? Fatigue, I suppose. I only get so much vacation a year, and I decided early on last year I'd rather spend it, and my hard-earned cash, looking at Scarabs and Formula 5000 cars at Road America's summer vintage event. But I'm not going to stop following IndyCar. Unlike F1, which increasingly, I can take or leave, this is a lifelong passion I'm going to hold onto until it dies or I do.
IndyCar as presently constituted is hardly what is was when I fell for the sport. But, as a buddy put it, those days are gone, we have what we have, and for now, that's better than nothing. It's something to build on. And maybe in a few years I'll actually feel like buying tickets to an Indy 500.
Thirteen years is a long time for a civil war. I'd prefer to get on with Reconstruction.
I propose that, until the beginning of the season, absent some rule change or other intervention in the sport by Tony George and his minions, we declare a moratorium on the twin subjects of Tony George and the cause of The Split. Once the pace car rolls, all is fair game. My hope is we'll have better things to discuss at that time.
So, for the sake of discussion:
1) Castroneves appears to be going to trial. How long before Power gets acclimated at Penske?
2) Are Briscoe, Dixon, and Franchitti still the favorites?
3) Who else believes that Dan Wheldon will not win another race?
4) Danica declined to race in A1GP and presumably, did not improve her road racing skills. Her next shot at Victory Lane?
5) Can Vitor lead Foyt back to glory?
6) Fisher discovered last year that sponsorship agreements and checks are decidedly different things. Who will relearn the lesson first this year?
7) With Newman's death, Haas's advancing age, and two pay drivers (apparently, no confirmation yet) on the team, what are the prospects for N/H/L Racing?
8) In which race will AGR FIRST (it will happen more than once) favor Marco over a teammate and Kanaan will regret not taking Chip's offer when he had the chance? My guess is, as last year, Indy.
9) With Franchitti and Dixon cooperatively setting up cars, can TCGR be stopped? Even contained?
10) Where will Mike Conway finish in the points?
Who's with me?