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[RA0259]

Hi All,

I am trying to track down a list on entrants for this race. I understand there were 14 entries and 1 of those was Prince Bira. Any others known including cars? References if any?

Thanks,

Chris

[GIGLEUX]

1.HB Prestwich MG Magnette
2.A. Powys-Lybbe Alfa Romeo Monza
3.CEC Martin Alfa tipo B 2904
4.JHT Smith/MS Soames MG Magnette
5. RE Tongue ERA
6. EWH Dobson Riley 1089
7. P O'Boyle/WE Wilkinson Alta 1485
8. Sir A McRobert/MFL Falkner MG Magnette
9. JA Thompson Ford 943
10. AP McArthur MG Magnette

FL CEC Martin Scratchman

DNF B "Bira" Maserati 8CM crash
P.McLure Riley engine
AP Watson Aston Martin big end
Manders MG magneto

DNS
M.White Bugatti fatal crash during practice
CG Neill Bugatti crash during practice
A Dobson Riley 1500
Gee Riley 1500

DNA I Peters Alfa Romeo
PN Whitehead ERA

[Vitesse2]

Jean-Maurice mon ami - I'm very surprised you missed the date discrepancy! The Cork International Motor Race took place on May 22nd 1937, not June 3rd.

Published sources about this race include "The Cork Motor Races 1936-38" by Wilford J Fitzsimmons (Dreolin Press, Tankardstown, 2000), Denis Jenkinson's "Maserati 3011" (Aries Press/André Deutsch, London, 1987), Prince Chula's "Road Star Hat Trick" and Bira's own book "Bits and Pieces".

[GIGLEUX]

Richard, of course you are right!

[Boniver]

http://www.britishpa...searchword=lner

[RA0259]

Thanks all for providing this information.

My reason for asking is that I have been looking at footage from the race available at

http://www.itnsource...10/?s=CORk 1937

It is clear to me that the Car 17 shown at the 16 second mark AND again at 1:09 mark and again at the 2:03 mark is an MG R-Type. Specifically it is my family's R-Type which has now been confirmed by your kind contributions to this forum. We did not have this race on record and the car has changed colour (was red) to a dark colour which threw me a bit.

Interesting that car is described as Magneto.

Thanks guys and Merry Christmas to all.

Chris

[Vitesse2]

Originally posted by RA0259

Interesting that car is described as Magneto.

Thanks guys and Merry Christmas to all.

Chris

Chris: you may have figured it out, but "magneto" was the reason for Charlie Manders' retirement. He was running sixth with three laps to go when the magneto drive sheared, having had to drive a cautious race due to a cracked cylinder head. He'd also had piston trouble during practice.

If the car stayed in Ireland for any length of time it might be worth contacting Bob Montgomery at the RIAC Archive:

http://www.motorspor...cfm/loc/2-9.htm

[RA0259]

I would like to correct my own error for the record. After much research over the Christmas period I believe the MG R-Type shown at Cork in 1937 is not RA0259 (our own car) as earlier thought but RA0260 (currently owned by Karl Wiseman in Germany). The tell tales signs in the video are the straight through exhaust with an arm rest on it. As well as references in MotorSport May 1947 where Reggie Tongue confirms he sold RA0260 (ex-Malcolm Camplbell car) to Charlie Manders. (I have not personally seen this reference but am reliably informed this is what it says).