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#1 Nanni Dietrich

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 17:42

A short article from a Spanish newspaper, issue of 02 September 1964.

This is the text (in Spanish):

Chatelet (Bélgica) - En el hospital de hesta localidad ha fallecido el piloto Renato Climaz, de Stregna, a consequencia de las heridas que se produjo en accidente durante las pruebas del Gran Premio de Bélgica de Automovilismo.>

A fake?

Renato Climaz does not sound as a Formula 1 driver (Climaz... Climax?).
The Belgian Grand Prix was held on 14 June 1964, two months and half before the date of the article.
(possibly an accident during a supporting race?)

Stregna is a small village in northern Italy, near Udine. Chatelet is near Charleroi, some 150 kms from Spa-Francorchamps.

:confused: :confused: :confused:

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#2 David McKinney

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 18:12

When was the Belgian motorcycle GP?

#3 ReWind

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 18:33

On July 5th, 1964 (also at Spa).

Nanni's text says "automovilismo" twice, so a mix-up with motor cycling would be very embarrassing.

#4 Nanni Dietrich

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Posted 07 March 2009 - 07:45

The 24 Hours of Spa-Francorchamps?
25 and 26 July 1964.
Several accidents occurred during that race, one of them fatal (Piero Frescobaldi).
No one of the drivers had a similar name.

#5 David McKinney

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Posted 07 March 2009 - 09:22

Sorry Nanni, I should have mentioned I'd checked that
I also dismissed the 500km GT race (17 May) as being too early
I didn't check anywhere other than Spa, however - the Limbourg GP at Zolder in July is another possibility

#6 Nanni Dietrich

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 06:37

The TNFers are not able to solve this mystery...

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#7 Jean L

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 08:10

Chatelet is close to Mettet.

#8 David McKinney

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 10:01

Were cars racing at Mettet as late as 1964?

Perhaps bikes still were, but we've been down that road

The other possibility of course is rally...

#9 arttidesco

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 11:13

No driver of with those names (Renato or Climaz) in racingsportscars.com either tried looking through some of the 1963 FJ and 1964 F3 race entries the only Renato I found was Renato Savini who did not appear with his Scuderia Sant'Ambroeus team Foglietti - DKW at the XII Trofeo Bruno e Fofi Vigorelli 1966 III Coppa Autieri Autodromo Nazionale di Monza, Italy.

No sign of any one with a surname Climaz.


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Posted 17 July 2010 - 15:36

I recall a Rene and Renato, not sure what team they drove for......

#11 Nanni Dietrich

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 15:44

The Mettet road course was used for motorcycle races since 1927. In 1962 the Formula Junior race "Grand Trophy" was marred by the death of German driver Heinz Starke. In the following years, 1963-64-65 the event was cancelled.

(source: Rob Semmeling's website http://www.wegcircui...se.pdf?q=rennen )

So, Mettet = NO

Zolder?
Probably. On 23 August 1964 was held the Grand Prix de Limbourg.
According to Stefan Örnerdal's website
http://www.formula2.net/F364_E47.htm
no fatal accidents.
But La Vanguardia wrote about practice accident.
:confused:

Zolder? more than 150 kms from Chatelet...
:confused: :confused:

more mystery...

Edited by Nanni Dietrich, 17 July 2010 - 15:44.


#12 ERault

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 17:14

Perhaps our man was a mechanic or even a spectator and the spanish reporter got confused ?

#13 Jean L

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 17:34

A possibility:Charleroi hill climb,9 august 64.Charleroi is very close to Chatelet.

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 17:44

Don't suppose it's LITERALLY a pilot? Plane crash?

#15 Nanni Dietrich

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 14:06

Don't suppose it's LITERALLY a pilot? Plane crash?


No, ensign14: the Spanish newspaper article was titled "Automovilismo: MUERE EL PILOTO RENATO CLIMAZ".

Charleroi hillclimb is very interesting...

#16 ERault

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 17:10

Charleroi hillclimb is very interesting...


Then it should be the "course de côte du Mont Bolerée", on august 9, won by Vogele in his Brabham-Climax.