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#1 Makarias

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 12:33

The standings after the Australian GP:
[b]Pos Name			 Tot Latest [/b]

1)  an1res			43 43

=   Apex			  43 43

=   arcsine		   43 43

=   control		   43 43

=   D82			   43 43

=   dnbn			  43 43

=   Estwald		   43 43

=   Grayson		   43 43

=   kismet			43 43

=   kNt			   43 43

=   LB				43 43

=   Makarias		  43 43

=   mark f1		   43 43

=   Nads.Dams		 43 43

=   paranoik0		 43 43

=   race addicted	 43 43

=   scheivlak		 43 43

=   shays			 43 43

=   skylark68		 43 43

=   Xig			   43 43

21) Crazy Canuck	  42 42

=   jokuvaan		  42 42

=   KWSN - DSM		42 42

=   turin			 42 42

25) AcuraF1		   41 41

=   Kooper			41 41

=   Slick			 41 41

28) fisichella_2001   40 40

=   ville			 40 40
Stuff happens at the first race already! Points are missed mainly due to Buemi and Bourdais, but also fisichella_2001's Barrichello account is already busted...
Hopefully using the 12-9-7 points system won't make all this too confusing...


The entries


The following list shows the maximum, average ("popularity poll") and minimum bets on each driver. In order to make the Popularity Poll 731 points, the values for Massa and Alonso were rounded off upwards instead of downwards, as they otherwise would have been.
[b]

Name  Max  Pop  Min[/b]

Räik  129   91   68

Mass  115   85   55

Kubi  122   77   55

Heid  128   66   28

Hami  102   58   13

Alon   90   58   20

Butt   96   47   15

Trul   62   41   21

Barr   82   38	6

Gloc   53   36   15

Kova   55   31	3

Vett   41   27   11

Webb   40   21	5

Piqu   60   17	1

Rosb   38   17	6

Naka   18	8	0

Bour   16	7	0

Buem   15	4	0

Suti	5	1	0

Fisi	5	1	0

Gros	2	0	0

How many players have guessed each driver for WDC?

[b]Driver  Players[/b]

Räik	12 +2*0.5	 

Mass	 8 +2*0.5 

Heid	 3

Kubi	 2

Alon	 1

Hami	 1
LB and turin both think that the Ferrari drivers will score equal points.


Teammate battles: Which driver is expected to outscore his teammate?

[b]Owner			   Owned[/b]

	 <-	 =	->

Alon  29	0	0  Piqu

Rosb  29	0	0  Naka

Hami  27	1	1  Kova

Vett  25	0	4  Webb

Butt  22	3	4  Barr

Bour  21	6	2  Buem

Kubi  20	0	9  Heid

Räik  18	2	9  Mass

Trul  18	2	9  Gloc

Fisi   6   19	4  Suti

If the Popularity Poll somehow would turn out to be 100% correct, the final standings would look like this:
[b]Pos Name			 Tot[/b]

1)  scheivlak		693   

2)  Apex			 689   

3)  kismet		   687   

4)  LB			   682   

5)  Crazy Canuck	 681   

6)  Kooper		   679   

=   Makarias		 679   

8)  turin			672   

9)  mark f1		  671   

10) Estwald		  668   

11) skylark68		660   

12) race addicted	656   

13) arcsine		  655   

14) Grayson		  648   

15) KWSN - DSM	   647   

16) control		  646   

17) dnbn			 645   

18) jokuvaan		 644   

19) Xig			  642   

20) fisichella_2001  639   

=   Slick			639   

22) ville			627   

23) AcuraF1		  626   

24) paranoik0		610   

25) shays			609   

26) Nads.Dams		603   

27) an1res		   593   

28) D82			  578   

29) kNt			  557
Most average guess this year is scheivlak, and kNt has the least average guess for the second year in a row!


The Drivers' list

[b]Driver		Expect  Surprise  Beat[/b]

				 %	   %	   #

Buemi		   50,0	 12,5	8

Button		  25,3	 12,4	0

Barrichello	 23,7	 10,8	1

Rosberg		 18,0	  7,7	0

Glock		   13,9	  9,3	0

Bourdais		13,7	  5,9	1

Hamilton		12,0	  6,8	0

Alonso		   7,0	  4,4	0
Buemi is expected to score exactly four points this year, and he's exactly halfway there already...

EXPLANATIONS:
Expect: Expectation fulfillment. The driver's current points score as a percentage of the average points placed on him (not rounded off to integer points)
Surprise: The driver's points score as a percentage of the maximum points placed on him plus one. When this number is reached, the driver has achieved a 100% surprise, by beating the highest expectations on him for this season.
Beat: How many players' expectations the driver has managed to beat. The maximum amount is the number of entrants for the season; for 2009 this is 29.


Guesses on the latest points scorers:

[b]Button[/b]			  [b]Barrichello[/b]		 [b]Hamilton[/b]			[b]Glock[/b]			   [b]Alonso[/b]			  [b]Rosberg[/b]			 [b]Buemi[/b]			   [b]Bourdais[/b]			

[b]Forecast[/b]		204 [b]Potential[/b]	   201 [b]Potential[/b]	   199 [b]Potential[/b]	   197 [b]Potential[/b]	   196 [b]Potential[/b]	   195 [b]Potential[/b]	   194 [b]Potential[/b]	   193 

[b]Potential[/b]	   204 [b]Forecast[/b]		153 [b]Forecast[/b]		119 [b]Forecast[/b]		 85 an1res		   90 [b]Forecast[/b]		 51 [b]Forecast[/b]		 34 [b]Forecast[/b]		 17 

D82			  96 D82			  82 Slick		   102 Makarias		 53 Kooper		   83 KWSN - DSM	   38 an1res		   15 control		  16 

jokuvaan		 70 paranoik0		76 AcuraF1		  99 ville			50 Crazy Canuck	 75 race addicted	31 control		  13 an1res		   15 

Grayson		  69 jokuvaan		 65 shays			90 KWSN - DSM	   45 ville			72 Xig			  31 dnbn			 12 KWSN - DSM	   15 

paranoik0		69 kismet		   58 control		  85 LB			   45 Estwald		  70 dnbn			 29 LB			   10 kismet		   12 

Xig			  66 Grayson		  50 fisichella_2001  76 D82			  43 AcuraF1		  69 control		  23 race addicted	 7 race addicted	11 

Nads.Dams		63 Xig			  50 ville			76 Estwald		  43 fisichella_2001  69 jokuvaan		 22 arcsine		   5 dnbn			 10 

scheivlak		60 kNt			  49 skylark68		72 jokuvaan		 43 Slick			69 Apex			 20 Estwald		   5 kNt			  10 

mark f1		  59 scheivlak		48 Grayson		  70 Grayson		  42 [b]Forecast[/b]		 68 fisichella_2001  20 Grayson		   5 LB			   10 

race addicted	59 Makarias		 47 mark f1		  65 Nads.Dams		42 dnbn			 66 Grayson		  18 kNt			   5 fisichella_2001   9 

arcsine		  58 Kooper		   46 turin			65 an1res		   40 KWSN - DSM	   65 paranoik0		18 kismet			4 arcsine		   8 

kismet		   56 arcsine		  42 dnbn			 64 arcsine		  40 shays			65 scheivlak		17 Xig			   4 Estwald		   8 

Apex			 55 race addicted	42 Kooper		   62 Xig			  40 control		  62 Estwald		  16 Apex			  3 scheivlak		 8 

LB			   55 Nads.Dams		41 Makarias		 62 fisichella_2001  39 Xig			  62 kismet		   16 D82			   3 skylark68		 8 

turin			50 turin			38 scheivlak		62 scheivlak		39 Apex			 60 Kooper		   16 fisichella_2001   3 Xig			   8 

Makarias		 47 Apex			 35 Apex			 60 dnbn			 38 scheivlak		60 mark f1		  16 paranoik0		 3 D82			   6 

skylark68		46 Crazy Canuck	 35 D82			  58 mark f1		  37 kismet		   59 an1res		   15 scheivlak		 3 Kooper			6 

kNt			  43 Estwald		  35 kismet		   58 kismet		   36 Nads.Dams		59 Crazy Canuck	 15 shays			 3 mark f1		   6 

Crazy Canuck	 40 dnbn			 34 arcsine		  55 Apex			 35 turin			55 arcsine		  14 skylark68		 3 shays			 6 

dnbn			 40 mark f1		  32 LB			   55 control		  35 Makarias		 54 AcuraF1		  12 Makarias		  2 turin			 6 

ville			38 KWSN - DSM	   30 race addicted	51 kNt			  31 Grayson		  52 Makarias		 12 mark f1		   2 Crazy Canuck	  5 

Estwald		  36 LB			   30 Crazy Canuck	 45 Kooper		   31 skylark68		52 Slick			12 Nads.Dams		 2 Grayson		   5 

Kooper		   31 skylark68		28 Estwald		  42 Crazy Canuck	 30 race addicted	50 kNt			  11 [b]Current[/b]		   2 jokuvaan		  5 

KWSN - DSM	   30 Slick			20 KWSN - DSM	   40 paranoik0		30 mark f1		  46 D82			  10 Crazy Canuck	  1 AcuraF1		   4 

Slick			30 AcuraF1		  19 paranoik0		40 skylark68		30 LB			   45 turin			10 jokuvaan		  1 Makarias		  4 

control		  28 ville			19 jokuvaan		 39 AcuraF1		  25 jokuvaan		 43 skylark68		 9 KWSN - DSM		1 Slick			 4 

AcuraF1		  27 control		  18 an1res		   30 Slick			25 arcsine		  39 ville			 9 turin			 1 Apex			  3 

shays			22 an1res		   15 Nads.Dams		27 race addicted	20 paranoik0		35 LB				8 AcuraF1		   0 Nads.Dams		 2 

an1res		   15 shays			12 Xig			  27 shays			18 D82			  21 shays			 8 Kooper			0 paranoik0		 1 

fisichella_2001  15 [b]Current[/b]		   9 kNt			  13 turin			15 kNt			  20 Nads.Dams		 6 Slick			 0 [b]Current[/b]		   1 

[b]Current[/b]		  12 fisichella_2001   6 [b]Current[/b]		   7 [b]Current[/b]		   5 [b]Current[/b]		   4 [b]Current[/b]		   3 ville			 0 ville			 0
Current = the driver's current score
Forecast = extrapolation of his current average score/race over the whole season
Potential = Maximum achievable score for the driver

While fisichella_2001 seems the prime candidate for "royally screwed of the season", one can't avoid to think that ALL the scores may be pretty miserable this year...

The PTPC forecast
Will appear after the Spanish GP.

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#2 kNt

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 17:37

Maybe this year a benchmark could be introduced where the points are evenly distributed between all the teams, just to see if we're better than people who know absolutely nothing of F1 (if the season stays as chaotic as it is I might lose out that one :lol: )

#3 fisichella_2001

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 09:52

Hmm, it seems I underestimated the Brawn cars somewhat! :lol:

#4 Makarias

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 09:47

The only changes the Trulli-Hamilton thing does to the first post are:

The Drivers' list

[b]Driver		Expect  Surprise  Beat[/b]

				 %	   %	   #

Buemi		   50,0	 12,5	8

Button		  25,3	 12,4	0

Barrichello	 23,7	 10,8	1

Rosberg		 18,0	  7,7	0

Trulli		  16,9	 11,1	0

Glock		   13,9	  9,3	0

Bourdais		13,7	  5,9	1

Alonso		   7,0	  4,4	0

EXPLANATIONS:
Expect: Expectation fulfillment. The driver's current points score as a percentage of the average points placed on him (not rounded off to integer points)
Surprise: The driver's points score as a percentage of the maximum points placed on him plus one. When this number is reached, the driver has achieved a 100% surprise, by beating the highest expectations on him for this season.
Beat: How many players' expectations the driver has managed to beat. The maximum amount is the number of entrants for the season; for 2009 this is 29.


Guesses on the latest points scorers:

[b]Button[/b]			  [b]Barrichello[/b]		 [b]Trulli[/b]			  [b]Glock[/b]			   [b]Alonso[/b]			  [b]Rosberg[/b]			 [b]Buemi[/b]			   [b]Bourdais[/b]			

[b]Forecast[/b]		204 [b]Potential[/b]	   201 [b]Potential[/b]	   199 [b]Potential[/b]	   197 [b]Potential[/b]	   196 [b]Potential[/b]	   195 [b]Potential[/b]	   194 [b]Potential[/b]	   193 

[b]Potential[/b]	   204 [b]Forecast[/b]		153 [b]Forecast[/b]		119 [b]Forecast[/b]		 85 an1res		   90 [b]Forecast[/b]		 51 [b]Forecast[/b]		 34 [b]Forecast[/b]		 17 

D82			  96 D82			  82 D82			  62 Makarias		 53 Kooper		   83 KWSN - DSM	   38 an1res		   15 control		  16 

jokuvaan		 70 paranoik0		76 paranoik0		58 ville			50 Crazy Canuck	 75 race addicted	31 control		  13 an1res		   15 

Grayson		  69 jokuvaan		 65 an1res		   55 KWSN - DSM	   45 ville			72 Xig			  31 dnbn			 12 KWSN - DSM	   15 

paranoik0		69 kismet		   58 Estwald		  55 LB			   45 Estwald		  70 dnbn			 29 LB			   10 kismet		   12 

Xig			  66 Grayson		  50 KWSN - DSM	   55 D82			  43 AcuraF1		  69 control		  23 race addicted	 7 race addicted	11 

Nads.Dams		63 Xig			  50 Makarias		 54 Estwald		  43 fisichella_2001  69 jokuvaan		 22 arcsine		   5 dnbn			 10 

scheivlak		60 kNt			  49 arcsine		  51 jokuvaan		 43 Slick			69 Apex			 20 Estwald		   5 kNt			  10 

mark f1		  59 scheivlak		48 race addicted	50 Grayson		  42 [b]Forecast[/b]		 68 fisichella_2001  20 Grayson		   5 LB			   10 

race addicted	59 Makarias		 47 control		  46 Nads.Dams		42 dnbn			 66 Grayson		  18 kNt			   5 fisichella_2001   9 

arcsine		  58 Kooper		   46 LB			   45 an1res		   40 KWSN - DSM	   65 paranoik0		18 kismet			4 arcsine		   8 

kismet		   56 arcsine		  42 ville			44 arcsine		  40 shays			65 scheivlak		17 Xig			   4 Estwald		   8 

Apex			 55 race addicted	42 jokuvaan		 43 Xig			  40 control		  62 Estwald		  16 Apex			  3 scheivlak		 8 

LB			   55 Nads.Dams		41 Kooper		   42 fisichella_2001  39 Xig			  62 kismet		   16 D82			   3 skylark68		 8 

turin			50 turin			38 mark f1		  41 scheivlak		39 Apex			 60 Kooper		   16 fisichella_2001   3 Xig			   8 

Makarias		 47 Apex			 35 Apex			 40 dnbn			 38 scheivlak		60 mark f1		  16 paranoik0		 3 D82			   6 

skylark68		46 Crazy Canuck	 35 Crazy Canuck	 40 mark f1		  37 kismet		   59 an1res		   15 scheivlak		 3 Kooper			6 

kNt			  43 Estwald		  35 kismet		   40 kismet		   36 Nads.Dams		59 Crazy Canuck	 15 shays			 3 mark f1		   6 

Crazy Canuck	 40 dnbn			 34 turin			40 Apex			 35 turin			55 arcsine		  14 skylark68		 3 shays			 6 

dnbn			 40 mark f1		  32 Xig			  38 control		  35 Makarias		 54 AcuraF1		  12 Makarias		  2 turin			 6 

ville			38 KWSN - DSM	   30 scheivlak		37 kNt			  31 Grayson		  52 Makarias		 12 mark f1		   2 Crazy Canuck	  5 

Estwald		  36 LB			   30 Grayson		  36 Kooper		   31 skylark68		52 Slick			12 Nads.Dams		 2 Grayson		   5 

Kooper		   31 skylark68		28 fisichella_2001  33 Crazy Canuck	 30 race addicted	50 kNt			  11 [b]Current[/b]		   2 jokuvaan		  5 

KWSN - DSM	   30 Slick			20 AcuraF1		  30 paranoik0		30 mark f1		  46 D82			  10 Crazy Canuck	  1 AcuraF1		   4 

Slick			30 AcuraF1		  19 dnbn			 30 skylark68		30 LB			   45 turin			10 jokuvaan		  1 Makarias		  4 

control		  28 ville			19 shays			30 AcuraF1		  25 jokuvaan		 43 skylark68		 9 KWSN - DSM		1 Slick			 4 

AcuraF1		  27 control		  18 kNt			  29 Slick			25 arcsine		  39 ville			 9 turin			 1 Apex			  3 

shays			22 an1res		   15 skylark68		29 race addicted	20 paranoik0		35 LB				8 AcuraF1		   0 Nads.Dams		 2 

an1res		   15 shays			12 Slick			26 shays			18 D82			  21 shays			 8 Kooper			0 paranoik0		 1 

fisichella_2001  15 [b]Current[/b]		   9 Nads.Dams		21 turin			15 kNt			  20 Nads.Dams		 6 Slick			 0 [b]Current[/b]		   1 

[b]Current[/b]		  12 fisichella_2001   6 [b]Current[/b]		   7 [b]Current[/b]		   5 [b]Current[/b]		   4 [b]Current[/b]		   3 ville			 0 ville			 0


#5 noikeee

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 18:39

I assume you're still thinking about what to do with the half-points race in Sepang. :D

#6 Makarias

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 19:34

I'm not in the thinking phase yet, I'm trying to breathe calmly first...

#7 Grayson

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 10:36

Just a thought, if we're working on the fiction that the winner gets 12 points after each race, we may as well work on the fiction that the Malaysian GP was for full points.

Otherwise it knocks everyone's maths out and we've all had too many points to assign!