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#1 JPW

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 16:52

This weekend the Le Mans Series kicks off with the 1000 Km of Catalunya at the Barcelona track.

A field of nearly 50 cars will start Sunday at 11.30h CET.

First race for the Aston Martin team who will take on Oreca (with Bruno Senna) and the Audi R10's of Team Kolles.
In LMP2 there are 16 cars fighting for the win and a healthy GT2 class with Porsche, Ferrari, Aston Martin and Spyker.

Should be good fun after the Malaysian GP :up:

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#2 pingu666

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 19:25

blimey :o
might have a non pants race at barcalona :eek:

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 19:51

Originally posted by JPW
This weekend the Le Mans Series kicks off with the 1000 Km of Catalunya at the Barcelona track.

A field of nearly 50 cars will start Sunday at 11.30h CET.

First race for the Aston Martin team who will take on Oreca (with Bruno Senna) and the Audi R10's of Team Kolles.
In LMP2 there are 16 cars fighting for the win and a healthy GT2 class with Porsche, Ferrari, Aston Martin and Spyker.

Should be good fun after the Malaysian GP :up:


For me that series is nothing this year, given that the big two aren't there. Sad but true.

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 20:07

Originally posted by jeze


For me that series is nothing this year, given that the big two aren't there. Sad but true.


A 44 car grid in an economic downturn including 2 protos from Aston Martin and 2 Audis.

Some people are never satisfied :rolleyes:

#5 JPW

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 20:18

Originally posted by johnap
A 44 car grid in an economic downturn including 2 protos from Aston Martin and 2 Audis.

Some people are never satisfied :rolleyes:

So true but maybe some have a penchant for diesel engines and are missing the Peugeot and the R15?

A bit of onboard fun from the Speedy LMP1 and LMP2 cars at the Paul Ricard LMS test

LMP2

LMP1

#6 wewantourdarbyback

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 23:35

Originally posted by JPW

So true but maybe some have a penchant for diesel engines

R10??

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 23:35

Originally posted by pingu666
blimey :o
might have a non pants race at barcalona :eek:


A non pants race? :eek:

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Posted 01 April 2009 - 01:20

A solid field by the standards of ALMS here in the states with Audi, Penske and Peugeot gone....at least there's some hope for GT2 later when Corvette joins BMW and the others.

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Posted 01 April 2009 - 03:57

Originally posted by wewantourdarbyback


A non pants race? :eek:

oh lord! surely that is outside the regulations!

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Posted 01 April 2009 - 10:35

I agree that it's hard for me to get satisfied, but a proper sportscar championship need the two big marques battling out at the fornt, that's why we need a World Championship, because now they go in just whenever it suits them. That's a huge shame :

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Posted 01 April 2009 - 10:57

With a world championship you would need a commitment from the teams to join the overseas races. Unless they will turn into jokes with very few cars entered. And if you force people to go to Interlagos or Kyalami, a lot of privateers will be put off. Maybe you could get Audi and Peugout to join, but what happens if/when one of them leaves. Then you have a very thin field, because of the lack of private teams.
I don't think a world championship is the right idea (it would also mean FIA would take over the running from ACO, ugh!). But instead the LMS really needs to raise it's profile. It is such a shame that after Audi and Peugout use tons of money to develop their car, they will not use what would be 1-2% of that budget of racing them in the series. Probably because the only race that gets real exposure is Le Mans itself.

Somehow LMS needs a prestige race, which would make it worth it for Audi and Pug to race there. A TV deal would be a start. Eurosport has a big audience, but there is little to now chance they would spend hours a sunday afternoon on the LMS. I think going with Eurosport as the TV contractor is a big mistake. They simple do not have time for propor coverage of an endurance race.

The LMS is in great shape, but it is a shame that nobody will be able to watch it.

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Posted 01 April 2009 - 11:32

Originally posted by jk
With a world championship you would need a commitment from the teams to join the overseas races. Unless they will turn into jokes with very few cars entered. And if you force people to go to Interlagos or Kyalami, a lot of privateers will be put off. Maybe you could get Audi and Peugout to join, but what happens if/when one of them leaves. Then you have a very thin field, because of the lack of private teams.
I don't think a world championship is the right idea (it would also mean FIA would take over the running from ACO, ugh!). But instead the LMS really needs to raise it's profile. It is such a shame that after Audi and Peugout use tons of money to develop their car, they will not use what would be 1-2% of that budget of racing them in the series. Probably because the only race that gets real exposure is Le Mans itself.

Somehow LMS needs a prestige race, which would make it worth it for Audi and Pug to race there. A TV deal would be a start. Eurosport has a big audience, but there is little to now chance they would spend hours a sunday afternoon on the LMS. I think going with Eurosport as the TV contractor is a big mistake. They simple do not have time for propor coverage of an endurance race.

The LMS is in great shape, but it is a shame that nobody will be able to watch it.


The only oversea races could be Sebring and Petit Le Mans, and maybe something in Japan. You could have a possibility to skip rounds, and run the Le Mans 24 Hours as a part of the series. It could be like

Sebring
Barcelona
Spa
Le Mans
Algarve
Nürburgring
Monza
Silverstone
Suzuka
Atlanta

Otherwise a European Championship would suffice as well ;)

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Posted 01 April 2009 - 11:54

If we want a big event, perhaps a 10 hour race at Spa prior to Le Mans would be interesting and viable for the manufacturers to take part in. The race could be run a bit like Sebring, with start at 12 and finish at 22, making the last laps in complete darkness, just like the big races in the States!

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Posted 01 April 2009 - 12:07

Originally posted by jeze
If we want a big event, perhaps a 10 hour race at Spa prior to Le Mans would be interesting and viable for the manufacturers to take part in. The race could be run a bit like Sebring, with start at 12 and finish at 22, making the last laps in complete darkness, just like the big races in the States!

Now there's a good idea a 10 or 12 hour Spa race that would be fantastic :up:

Thing is if you hold such a race prior to Le Mans it might cause the big teams to forget about going to Sebring.

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Posted 01 April 2009 - 12:19

Originally posted by JPW

Now there's a good idea a 10 or 12 hour Spa race that would be fantastic :up:

Thing is if you hold such a race prior to Le Mans it might cause the big teams to forget about going to Sebring.


That might be true, but aho gives a damn about America ;) The Spa race would surely get high viewing rates all over Europe, and it would be a big shakedown for the 24 Hours. As Quesnel (the Peugeot main man) was quoted, the reason that they sacrificed LMS this year was the fact that none of the races are lasting long enough to make it a real prepataion for Le Mans, unlike Sebring.

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Posted 01 April 2009 - 15:06

Originally posted by jk
With a world championship you would need a commitment from the teams to join the overseas races. Unless they will turn into jokes with very few cars entered. And if you force people to go to Interlagos or Kyalami, a lot of privateers will be put off. Maybe you could get Audi and Peugout to join, but what happens if/when one of them leaves. Then you have a very thin field, because of the lack of private teams.
I don't think a world championship is the right idea (it would also mean FIA would take over the running from ACO, ugh!). But instead the LMS really needs to raise it's profile. It is such a shame that after Audi and Peugout use tons of money to develop their car, they will not use what would be 1-2% of that budget of racing them in the series. Probably because the only race that gets real exposure is Le Mans itself.

Somehow LMS needs a prestige race, which would make it worth it for Audi and Pug to race there. A TV deal would be a start. Eurosport has a big audience, but there is little to now chance they would spend hours a sunday afternoon on the LMS. I think going with Eurosport as the TV contractor is a big mistake. They simple do not have time for propor coverage of an endurance race.

The LMS is in great shape, but it is a shame that nobody will be able to watch it.

You could try and make a full program in the LMS/ALMS compulsory for entry to LeMans, but that would probably put it in the same position as a world championship with an all-or-nothing entry list, especially if Audi did ALMS while Peugeot did LMS.

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Posted 01 April 2009 - 19:24

Originally posted by Andy Donovan
You could try and make a full program in the LMS/ALMS compulsory for entry to LeMans, but that would probably put it in the same position as a world championship with an all-or-nothing entry list, especially if Audi did ALMS while Peugeot did LMS.


Only problem with that is that it would have to apply to the next season unless you make Le Mans the final race of the season.

To be honest i don't think there's anything wrong with how it is, other than the fact the GT1 entry is a little light again.