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#1 revelstudios

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Posted 01 April 2009 - 16:48

My Father has been a long-time fan of Keke and has told me numerous stories about a poster he once had hanging in his apartment. He describes it as such; Keke Rosberg (Formula Atlantic), right turn corner and the right front was slightly off the ground, full lock into the drift, and the left rear, on the ground, was grazing the white wall with blue smoke coming off. Great action shot! Possibly in a Trojan sponsored car, maybe pink in color. I believe the poster was a licensed production print for Keke fans, 1977-1979 or abouts.

Any assistance you can provide in finding this photograph will be tremendously appreciated! Thank you!

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#2 john winfield

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Posted 01 April 2009 - 17:04

Would this be the car?

http://images.google...h...en&safe=off


Perhaps they thought the action shot you mention might discourage potential buyers!

#3 revelstudios

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Posted 01 April 2009 - 17:09

Thanks for the quick reply, John! I e-mailed the link with the photos to my Dad. Will confirm back if that's the car. I appreciate the help!

#4 brandspro

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Posted 01 April 2009 - 19:02

It's actually quite a famous photo - which somehow I can't find on line at the moment - from the F/Atlantic race at Trois Rivieres. The car is bright pink - magenta? - and sponsored by Excita condoms.

#5 revelstudios

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Posted 01 April 2009 - 19:19

Confirmed! That's the one! Anyone that can find this photo or has a print, please contact me ASAP. Thank you so much.

#6 proviz

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 04:56

That photo appears in Guy Edwards' book "Sponsorship and the Sport of Motor Racing".

#7 revelstudios

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 05:10

Thank you for the insight proviz! I looked around for the book and it appears to be in very high demand, drawing many hundreds of dollars in even used condition. Wow! By chance would you have the book? Are there photo credits associated with the photo? I am certainly willing to compensate for the image (for personal use as a gift to my Father for in-home display). Thanks again!

#8 MoMurray

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 05:23

The image is on pages 124/125 in the book and comprises a spread with text and two insets of Ron Dennis and Keke. Although very exciting, it is not a great reproduction and appears grainy in the book. There is no specific photo credit other than a broad copyright at the front. I can scan the image tomorrow and email to you if you wish.

Very good book bye the way should decide to pick one up.

Mo.

#9 revelstudios

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 05:25

Thank you MoMurray! Everyone here has been a great help. I truly appreciate the spirit. Please do e-mail me the image, I'll see if I can track it down from there. With regards,

rob -at- revelstudios .com

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 11:47

Originally posted by MoMurray

Although very exciting, it is not a great reproduction and appears grainy in the book.

It's rubbish quality repro!

Saved you the bother, Mo. Took three scans mated together and there's still a bit missing... :rolleyes:

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#11 proviz

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 12:43

I spoke to Keke about this photo a couple of years ago. If I recall correctly he thought it had been taken by an American (or Canadian) photographer, who gave him a print. Anyway, Keke no longer had that print back then.

#12 MoMurray

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 14:00

Thanks Stuart.

Mo

#13 David McKinney

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 14:47

...and the colour's 'way off...

#14 chrisj

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 17:21

I remember it being a pull-out poster or center spread in a US racing magazine called "Formula". I think you could order a print from the magazine at the time. I'll dig out my old copies and see it i can find the issue.

#15 David McKinney

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 20:58

Originally posted by David McKinney
...and the colour's 'way off...

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The car on the left is closer to the colour in question

#16 revelstudios

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 23:16

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Thank you everyone for all of your help! Looks like the book scan is the best quality we can come up with for now. I really appreciate the effort though! I went ahead and retouched the book scan to bring the color closer to original and chop out the text layout so it's more of a solid photograph. I know the colors are still off and background way too dark, but it's not a bad retouch.

Again, I really appreciate the effort and my thanks to everyone. I'll keep this thread bookmarked just in case an original copy of the photo turns up. With regards, Rob

#17 Manfred Cubenoggin

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 01:07

Dave:

Your pix of the three Atlantic cars with KK trailing. That's not from the Hamilton race of 1978, is it? Now there's a story that needs telling! :lol:

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 01:16

No palm trees in Hamilton Manfred, and above the leading car you can see a store sign that appears to say Long Beach.
But the whole Hamilton story would indeed be interesting.

#19 Manfred Cubenoggin

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 01:19

:drunk:

So much for my powers of observation! Thanks for that correction, sprite.

Ah, yes... Hamilton. Spent hours on both a Saturday and a Sunday counting windows in the downtown buildings. Nothing better to do...

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#20 raceannouncer2003

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 05:57

The Chevron in post 2 is an ex-Rosberg 1977 Chevron B39. This is, I believe, the one currently in the Marconi Museum in California.

The Chevron in post 10, 15, and 16 is, I think, Rosberg in the 1978 Chevron B45. Rosberg ran #41 at Long Beach, and doesn't appear in the Trois Rivieres results, so perhaps the photo in posts 10 and 16 is from Quebec City or Hamilton?...he won both (and Westwood!)

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#21 David McKinney

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 06:04

Confirming my photo is from Long Beach 1978

There was a time when I could tell a B39 from a B45 by sight : - but wasn't 1977 the Excita year (and therefore a B39)? And the car not repainted before LB? Note there's no Excita signwriting in evidence at LB

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 07:31

I believe 1977 and 1978 were both Excita years...confirmed in 1978 Westwood program and by a photo from the 1978 Montreal Atlantic race. Rosberg did run #3 and #4 at various races in 1977, and #4 all through 1978. He ran #4 both years at Quebec. However, in 1977, his Chevron had dark numbers, and in 1978, white numbers.

And, I found this link at 10 Tenths, under a post by Allen Brown:

http://www.btinterne...rgpic-1000x.jpg

The URL would indicate the photo is from Quebec, 1978

Here is the link to the webpage:

http://www.ten-tenth...hp/t-48483.html

There is some discussion on the webpage that Rosberg maybe ran a B39 at Quebec in 1978, though Allen Brown lists Rosberg in a B45 in his results on his site...Allen?

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 21:00

'full lock into the drift'

I have never worked out how to insert a quote into a message, but ...........PLEASE!!

A drift would have all four wheels in line with the car facing into the corner. Lock indicates a power slide.
Different things entirely.

In the interests of versimilitude you under stand.


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Bauble.

#24 martyk

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Posted 29 April 2009 - 14:48

Here's the picture from FORMULA Magazine August 1978:

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#25 Manfred Cubenoggin

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Posted 29 April 2009 - 15:28

HA! I was in the AFFA support race for that very Quebec City event in '78!

And got rather closer to the stout concrete barriers than even KK. :(

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Posted 29 April 2009 - 17:09

Originally posted by martyk
Here's the picture from FORMULA Magazine August 1978:

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...Wowee..!! :clap:

#27 Marc Sproule

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Posted 30 April 2010 - 05:49

I was standing next to Gordon Kirby when Keke bounced it off that wall in Quebec City all those years ago. As he went by us we commented on how we thought he had just bounced it off the wall. Our buddy Paul Webb was standing with us and said he thought he had gotten it on film.

Obviously he had.

Unfortunately I hadn't. One of only a few images I seriously rue missing during my photog career.

Also unfortunately, the slide that Paul took that day is now long gone. It was lost during a move from one house to another. I re-confirmed that fact with Paul recently.

Although I don't have anything of Keke that is quite that dramatic, I do have a fair number of him in Atlantic, Can Am and F1 cars. I also have a number of him in my "people" set.

I have only recently started scanning images from my archives. I know for a fact that there will be a lot more to come of Keke. It was definitely a treat to see him ply his trade in North America all those years ago.

http://www.flickr.co...s/46681980@N03/





#28 David Beard

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Posted 30 April 2010 - 07:06

http://www.flickr.co...s/46681980@N03/



Just had a look through your Flickr photostream Marc. It's great!

#29 Marc Sproule

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Posted 30 April 2010 - 23:48

Thank you David.

I have about 75k images in my archives and it is a serious amount of fun to go through my old stuff and get it up on flickr.

I am glad that others are enjoying it too.




#30 HistoryFan

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 20:17

I heard that Keke Rosberg's father (don't know the name, perhaps that will also help me) was also racing Rallyes. Does anyone have any details about that?



#31 Richard Jenkins

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 20:36

BOTH parents in fact - http://www.saunalaht...ers/rosberg.htm

 

Life dates of Lars - http://www.geni.com/...000012807234929

 

Some results; http://www.hankirall...toluettelot.pdf and http://www.dlg.speed...l/55miscra.html



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Posted 28 March 2014 - 06:35

Yes, an interesting picture! :up: Most of the image links above are dead, so here's a new one ..

 

15yQEsv.jpg



#33 Marc Sproule

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 06:58

since i posted on this topie i have created a seperate set for keke.....

 

https://www.flickr.c...57630594543230/

 

this is the link to all my sets......

 

https://www.flickr.c...81980@N03/sets/

 

for those who don't already know.....the object on the nose of the car...below the "c" and "i" of excita. is a small piece wood fashioned into the piece of human anatomy to which the excita condom would be applied.

 

it started out as a gearshift knob.

 

keke's mechanics were the ones who came up with that piece of equipment, so to speak.



#34 Michael Ferner

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 08:07

Nice touch...

 

 

:D



#35 ReWind

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 09:11

Keke Rosberg's father (don't know the name)

 

Are you not even able to look up the German Wikipedia entry on Keke Rosberg?



#36 HistoryFan

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 12:08

 

thanks

 



#37 brucemoxon

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Posted 30 March 2014 - 00:51

What a shot!

 

That bloke might have done all right if he'd ever shown some commitment...

 

 

 

 

 

Bruce Moxon



#38 BRG

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Posted 30 March 2014 - 19:17

Yes, I well remember this bloke opposite-locking the Theodore through the Silverstone chicane in the wet back in 1978.  With a bit of commitment, he could have spun off like Ickx, Reggazoni, Hunt and Lauda managed to do that day instead of just winning his F1 debut race.    ;)



#39 Marc Sproule

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 04:11

What a shot!

 

That bloke might have done all right if he'd ever shown some commitment...

 

 

 

 

 

Bruce Moxon

 

kinda like this guy maybe?????

 

https://www.flickr.c...N03/6804756204/



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#40 raceannouncer2003

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 05:32

Yes, I well remember this bloke opposite-locking the Theodore through the Silverstone chicane in the wet back in 1978.  With a bit of commitment, he could have spun off like Ickx, Reggazoni, Hunt and Lauda managed to do that day instead of just winning his F1 debut race.    ;)

 

Yes, a great performance.  However, I believe this was not his F1 debut race.  His first was in South Africa a few weeks earlier.

 

Vince H.