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Poll: What is your opinion of McLaren now (238 member(s) have cast votes)

  1. Was anti - still anti (71 votes [29.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.83%

  2. didn't mind them - now anti (26 votes [10.92%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.92%

  3. was a fan - now anti (17 votes [7.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.14%

  4. didn't mind them - still dont mind them (68 votes [28.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

  5. was a fan - always a fan (56 votes [23.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.53%

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#1 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:28

After the comments by Whitmarsh earlier explaining what a simple misunderstanding this all was, to the release of the transcripts showing pretty much what happened what is your opinion of McLaren now

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#2 mkay

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:31

Simple, the bashers will invade this thread and mess up with the poll..

#3 Nuvol

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:32

or the fanboys

#4 tahadar

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:32

stupid poll.

#5 wewantourdarbyback

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:33

What is your opinion of Cheese now?

a) 1
b) Hamilton
c) half past three
d) Garlic Bread?

#6 wingwalker

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:33

I'm terribly disappointed with them.

#7 RoutariEnjinu

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:35

Where's the option for:

anti -> now love them

?

#8 Gareth

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:35

About the same as it was following spygate - i.e. they think they are being all clever but in reality they are misleading idiot fucktards now led by the biggest misleading idiot fucktard of them all in Whitmarsh.

#9 djellison

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:36

Was a fan. Not Anti now - just no longer a fan, at all.

#10 sreevishnu

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:36

Originally posted by mkay
Simple, the bashers will invade this thread and mess up with the poll..

Simple, the Lewis bandwagon will invade this thread and mess up with the poll..

#11 wewantourdarbyback

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:37

Originally posted by sreevishnu

Simple, the Lewis bandwagon will invade this thread and mess up with the poll..


So, Williams fans just stay out of it then?

Just waiting for instructions.

#12 RoutariEnjinu

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:41

I LOVE "McLraen" :lol:

#13 wewantourdarbyback

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:43

Originally posted by RoutariEnjinu
I LOVE "McLraen" :lol:

But no body's answered my cheese question. :cry:

#14 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:43

Originally posted by RoutariEnjinu
I LOVE "McLraen" :lol:


Yet you can't spell their name :clap:

#15 wewantourdarbyback

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:43

Originally posted by Gilles4Ever


Yet you can't spell their name :clap:

Check your poll question :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

#16 FredF1

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:44

Where's the 'Meh, who cares?' option?

#17 RobH

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:46

None of your poll options reflect how I feel.

Was a fan, am now extremely dissapointed and they have A LOT of making up to do to retain my continued support.

Will continue to support Hamilton because he's a great British driver who I believe was caught up in this lie by his team, but couldn't give a fig about McLaren doing well in the constrctors right now, though I wouldn't say I'm anti-McLaren; just not particularly enamoured with them anymore.

This may change as the season progresses but at the moment I'm not a happy bunny.

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#18 RoutariEnjinu

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:48

Originally posted by wewantourdarbyback
Check your poll question :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


High Five! :D

#19 Peter Perfect

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:48

Was ambivalent, now I'm not so sure.

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#20 bankoq

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:48

I would just love to hear some radio conversations from last two seasons from questionable incidents. I dare to believie the outcome of both 2007 & 2008 could be changed.

#21 slideways

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:49

Just cements my moral dislike for them really.

Give me Williams, RBR or even the new Todtless, Schumacherless Ferrari any day over this bunch of corporate cheating robots.

#22 wewantourdarbyback

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:49

Originally posted by RoutariEnjinu


High Five! :D


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#23 RoutariEnjinu

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:49

Originally posted by wewantourdarbyback
What is your opinion of Cheese now?

a) 1
b) Hamilton
c) half past three
d) Garlic Bread?


I vote: B, because he's arrogant.

Although for a while there I was going to go with A, because Arrogant starts with A.

#24 Insane111

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:51

Originally posted by wewantourdarbyback
What is your opinion of Cheese now?

a) 1
b) Hamilton
c) half past three
d) Garlic Bread?


Garlic bread all the way.

Now you have made me hungry. Thank you.

#25 Andy35

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 13:54

Originally posted by Gareth
About the same as it was following spygate - i.e. they think they are being all clever but in reality they are misleading idiot fucktards now led by the biggest misleading idiot fucktard of them all in Whitmarsh.


If Ron was still there would he still be #1 and Whitmarsh #2? Or do you rate him worse ? Perhaps too much has rubbed off on him?

Dennis -> Whitmarsh
Williams -> Michaels.

Is a pattern there I wonder? I like Frank and I like Sam and I wonder if Sam is how he is because of how Frank is and also wonder about Ron and Martin.

Sorry about the longwindedness, but do you get where I am coming from?



Regards

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#26 BMW_F1

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 14:00

I never liked mccheaters . this further proves my judgment.

#27 Buttoneer

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 14:02

Can we have a 'still being hunted by Max' option?

#28 RoutariEnjinu

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 14:03

Originally posted by wewantourdarbyback


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#29 Nuvol

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 14:06

:rotfl:

#30 Buttoneer

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 14:10

I voted 'was anti -> still anti' just to make sure the results can't be trusted.

Can someone post a petition on the internet for me to sign for the banning of McLraen?

#31 Mika Mika

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 14:12

Don't care either way id of though almost all teams have lied at some point.
Just don't want anything to happen to Heikki over this he didn't do anything wrong!!

#32 RoutariEnjinu

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 14:13

Originally posted by Buttoneer
I voted 'was anti -> still anti' just to make sure the results can't be trusted.

Can someone post a petition on the internet for me to sign for the banning of McLraen?


The trick is to vote for the one that gave the creater of the poll a raging hardon when they conceived it. In this case, 'was a fan -> now anti' is my choice.

#33 Buttoneer

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 14:15

Originally posted by RoutariEnjinu


The trick is to vote for the one that gave the creater of the poll a raging hardon when they conceived it.

I now have an image that won't go away.

#34 Massa_f1

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 14:16

Ive never liked McLaren and never will there staff are full of sly people, and people say ferrari are bad?

Deserved all they got.

#35 Insane111

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 14:18

Originally posted by Buttoneer
I voted 'was anti -> still anti' just to make sure the results can't be trusted.

Can someone post a petition on the internet for me to sign for the banning of McLraen?


Whoa whoa whoa, you don't want to scare the FIA with such a powerful statement. Start of slightly smaller (but retain that sense of purpose). A facebook group perhaps?

#36 Phucaigh

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 14:18

I was neutral on them as in another competitor to the team/drivers I support but it looks like Lewis tried to cheat Trulli in the original stewards meeting and Whitmarsh still playing spin doctor in an earlier interview today so I'm gone into the anti camp for today at least and probably longer.
It left me disappointed with McLaren, Whitmarsh could have put his hands up and then at least I could have some respect, its like he is in a mode that goes 'this is not happening, this is not happening, Lewis didn't lie, this is not happening'.
I don't feel they have been honest and that pushes me off the neutral position, people appreciate honesty not the truth being spun in an attempt to look innocent, Martin Whitmarsh, you have let down McLaren, you are in charge take some responsibility and maybe then this whole sorry mess can be left behind and it will earn respect rather than the position you took earlier today.

#37 kar

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 14:21

McLaren have done this time and time again, this is just the first time they've had all their dirty laundry aired in public.

#38 Buttoneer

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 14:21

Originally posted by Insane111


Whoa whoa whoa, you don't want to scare the FIA with such a powerful statement. Start of slightly smaller (but retain that sense of purpose). A facebook group perhaps?

I might start adding "#banMcLraen" to all tweets.

#39 Kimiraikkonen

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 14:24

McLaren for ever, but i donĀ“t understand nothing!!!!!!

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#40 27GV

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 14:26

Considering this is the FIA dealing with it, I have no idea what's happening and - being the FIA - there is probably so much bias, conniving and deceit involved in the decision so I can't really change my opinion.

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 15:05

Originally posted by Buttoneer
Can we have a 'still being hunted by Max' option?


Max didn't hunt them. They shot themselves in foot. And then tried to blame the self-inflicted wound on J. Trulli. Then, finally, got caught lying.

#42 Mauseri

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 15:08

Since Kimi left they have turned to evil :

I used to like them but since what happened in 2007 I cant. Too many liars over there. They are like Ferrari at Schumacher's time :down:

#43 Dalek Caan

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 15:09

Hakkinen was the last great thing to come out of McLaren. :up:

Once he left, McLaren turned evil. Hardly surprising with Ron Dennis at the helm. It makes me think maybe Jean Todt was the innocent party all those years...

#44 Mauseri

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 15:11

Originally posted by Dalek Caan
It makes me think maybe Jean Todt was the innocent party all those years...

I dont think so but it's dissapointing Dennis/McLaren arent any better.

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 15:13

I just think they could show a llittle more intelligence at times. After soygate and all the penalties Lewis got last year you would think they might just err on the side of caution. It was only the difference of 1 point.

#46 Mika Mika

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 15:26

Originally posted by Dalek Caan
McLaren turned evil.




HAHAHAHAH

#47 HP

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 15:47

My opinion didn't change.

McLaren is a smart company. Sometimes too smart for their own good. And it shows.

#48 Buttoneer

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 15:48

Originally posted by primer


Max didn't hunt them. They shot themselves in foot. And then tried to blame the self-inflicted wound on J. Trulli. Then, finally, got caught lying.

Only if you believe one set of liars over another.

You remember Charlie Whiting was caught out lying in the WMSC last year, right? How come the FIA's word is suddenly gospel?

Will McLaren be able to leave it's sins behind after six months too or will you still be calling them liars?

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 15:53

Originally posted by Buttoneer
Only if you believe one set of liars over another.

You remember Charlie Whiting was caught out lying in the WMSC last year, right? How come the FIA's word is suddenly gospel?

Will McLaren be able to leave it's sins behind after six months too or will you still be calling them liars?

What do you mean one's words over another? Are you implying that the interview and the radio transmission which were released could be doctored?

#50 Peter Perfect

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 16:06

Originally posted by Dalek Caan
Hakkinen was the last great thing to come out of McLaren. :up:

Once he left, McLaren turned evil. Hardly surprising with Ron Dennis at the helm. It makes me think maybe Jean Todt was the innocent party all those years...


If you think McLaren are the only team to lie/cheat/manipulate in the piranha club then you're hopelessly naive...