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#1 Nuvol

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:05

Alonso: "It's not first time that Mclaren lies"

"It remembered me 2007 season. It's not the first time they meet stewards, it's not the first time they lie to the stewards and soon or later they had to be punished. Of course I lost the championship by one point and racing at Hungaroring they made me a dirty trick"

http://www.marca.com...1238755398.html

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#2 Mika Mika

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:07

pot - kettle

#3 bogi

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:07

Nice linq :lol:

#4 Slowinfastout

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:09

Alonso : 'I lied for that team too!'

:rotfl:

#5 K-One

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:12

You just gotta love this guy - humble, honest and fair :up:

#6 Dunder

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:12

Alonso : 'I lied for that team too!'

Ban him for life!

#7 Nadsat

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:14

It's not the only one... It's in all the Spanish Press...


Serious Press:

EL PA脥S

http://www.elpais.co...lpepudep_12/Tes

EL MUNDO

http://www.elmundo.e...1238754772.html

LA VANGUARDIA

http://www.lavanguar...ue-mienten.html

ABC

http://www.abc.es/20...0904031239.html

#8 primer

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:14

Originally posted by K-One
You just gotta love this guy - humble, honest and fair :up:


Yes but at some point you have to let the past be past.

Just because someone shoves a microphone in your face does not mean you are obliged to help them earn their salary. He should focus on the struggles of Renault team and his own career. :

#9 fnz

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:15

Originally posted by primer
He should focus on the struggles of Renault team and his own career. :


And imho that's exactly what he's doing

#10 as65p

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:16

I guess the muzzle clause in his leaving contract has run out now... interesting. :smoking:

#11 Enkei

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:16

I would love to have Mr. Big Mouth a.k.a. Prima Donna working for me.
He really seems a nice person to work with, loyal, faithful and all that :lol:

#12 K-One

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:17

Originally posted by fnz


And imho that's exactly what he's doing


Really? Saying season is over after 14th or March if Brawns are okayed. Quite motivated dude

#13 as65p

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:17

Originally posted by Enkei
I would love to have Mr. Big Mouth a.k.a. Prima Donna working for me.
He really seems a nice person to work with, loyal, faithful and all that :lol:


Yeah, a bad soldier. That's what I like in him.

#14 Atreiu

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:19

Alonso, will you get over it please?

#15 fnz

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:19

Originally posted by K-One


Really? Saying season is over after 14th or March if Brawns are okayed. Quite motivated dude


Perhaps realistic is a better word. I don't doubt that every race he's in that car he pushes 100%.

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#16 F1 Truth

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:20

Originally posted by K-One
You just gotta love this guy - humble, honest and fair :up:

Yes, how humble and fair of him to put the blame for the Hungaroring penalty on McLaren, to make himself look better retrospectively. A true saint if there ever was one! :up:

#17 K-One

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:25

How can we be sure that Alonso is not lying about lying when at Mclaren? If he lied before, he is probably capable to do it again :confused:

#18 fnz

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:26

Originally posted by K-One
How can we be sure that Alonso is not lying about lying when at Mclaren? If he lied before, he is probably capable to do it again :confused:

simple: we can't

#19 Trebor152

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:26

What a predictable bitter comment from alonso

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#20 Nadsat

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:27

Italian Press:


My Italian is not very good, but is sounds like this:

Hamilton: "McLaren forced me to lie"...

http://www.gazzetta....assegnauk.shtml

#21 El_Capit醤

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:27

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Let the Alonso bashing begin.

I thank God 99.99% of the people on this good earth are NOT from (not so) Great Britain.

Bless the lord!!

#22 K-One

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:28

On the other hand, it's quite funny when both Alonso and Hammy say that they did not lie, it was Mclaren who lied :lol:

#23 kilcoo316

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:28

Awwwww....

Would you look at all the little hammy fanbois scrambling to protect their man and his team.


They have a history, whether you choose to recognise it or not.


A more hypocritical team you will not meet.

#24 fnz

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:28

Originally posted by Trebor152
What a predictable bitter comment from alonso


predictable: probably
bitter: yes
untrue comment: probably not

#25 Looserke

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:32

Originally posted by Nuvol
Alonso: "It's not first time that Mclaren lies"

"It remembered me 2007 season. It's not the first time they meet stewards, it's not the first time they lie to the stewards and soon or later they had to be punished. Of course I lost the championship by one point and racing at Hungaroring they made me a dirty trick"

http://www.marca.com...1238755398.html


And what did you do when you slow down at Hungaroring FP, and MS overtake you Mr. Alonso??? :down:

#26 as65p

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:33

Originally posted by Looserke


And what did you do when you slow down at Hungaroring FP, and MS overtake you Mr. Alonso??? :down:


Laugh?

#27 JPW

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:37

Originally posted by Nuvol
Alonso: "It's not first time that Mclaren lies"

"It remembered me 2007 season. It's not the first time they meet stewards, it's not the first time they lie to the stewards and soon or later they had to be punished. Of course I lost the championship by one point and racing at Hungaroring they made me a dirty trick"

http://www.marca.com...1238755398.html

LOL I was wondering when Alonso would stick in the knife :cool:

#28 MWM

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:40

Originally posted by El_Capit谩n
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Let the Alonso bashing begin.

I thank God 99.99% of the people on this good earth are NOT from (not so) Great Britain.

Bless the lord!!

2 things -

First, I am both British and quite a fan of Alonso, so don't assume (as you seem to be) that being British = being an Alonso Basher. We are not all jingoistic, and I don't suppose all Spaniards are either.

Second, and on a slightly pedantic note (although I daresay an even great pedant will also point out a flaw in my post! :))...the world population is around 6,000,000,000. The population of great Britain is around 60,000,000, so around 1% of the world population is British, not 0.01 as you suggest.

#29 El_Capit醤

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:52

Originally posted by MWM

2 things -

First, I am both British and quite a fan of Alonso, so don't assume (as you seem to be) that being British = being an Alonso Basher. We are not all jingoistic, and I don't suppose all Spaniards are either.

Second, and on a slightly pedantic note (although I daresay an even great pedant will also point out a flaw in my post! :))...the world population is around 6,000,000,000. The population of great Britain is around 60,000,000, so around 1% of the world population is British, not 0.01 as you suggest.


You know what? You're right.

#30 Buckethead

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:52

Originally posted by K-One


Really? Saying season is over after 14th or March if Brawns are okayed. Quite motivated dude


He is putting some pressure to FIA, just like Ferrari when they say new car will cost them 20 mill.

#31 Oho

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:53

Originally posted by fnz


untrue comment: probably not


Matter of taste really, I sincerely doubt Alonso lied for McLaren half as much as he lied for his own interest.

#32 Gareth

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:53

Sorry for this, my language skills are terrible. Is Alonso saying:

1. McLaren lied at Hungary

2. McLaren made Alonso lie to the stewards at Hungary or

3. Both 1 and 2?

Cheers for any clarifications.

#33 Looserke

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:54

Alonso is a Saint! :rotfl: :rolleyes:

Glory to him! :lol:

#34 VoidNT

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 13:00

Any McLaren scandal would be incomplete without Alonso. :D

#35 Nuvol

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 13:04

true :rotfl:

#36 Kelateboy

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 13:06

Originally posted by VoidNT
Any McLaren scandal would be incomplete without Alonso. :D

I guess a much more accurate phrase would be - "Any McLaren scandal would be incomplete without Lewis Hamilton."

-KB

#37 Kooper

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 13:09

Juan Pablo Montoya

'McLaren forced me to lie about my motorbike accident'



#38 kismet

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 13:14

Originally posted by Gareth
Sorry for this, my language skills are terrible. Is Alonso saying:

1. McLaren lied at Hungary

2. McLaren made Alonso lie to the stewards at Hungary or

3. Both 1 and 2?

Cheers for any clarifications.

Well, my Spanish is little above shite but I'd have to choose option 1. Strictly speaking, he doesn't seem to be saying anything that unquestionably rules out options 2 and 3, but only 1 is explicitly (well, almost) spelled out. Martin Whitmarsh would disagree but the implication seems clear enough.

But like I said, my Spanish limps.

#39 Lontano

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 13:22

Originally posted by Nadsat
Italian Press:


My Italian is not very good, but is sounds like this:

Hamilton: "McLaren forced me to lie"...

http://www.gazzetta....assegnauk.shtml


Nop, what he is saying is "The told me to lie", which is what he said at the press conference.

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#40 Nuvol

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 13:22

Originally posted by Kooper
Juan Pablo Montoya

'McLaren forced me to lie about my motorbike accident'

you just won a cookie :up:

#41 schuey100

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 13:23

I can't for a second believe that Alonso said that he has lied on behalf of McLaren (whether he was 'forced' to or not). I know he's not the sharpest tool in the box but a statement like that would go well beyond the realms of stupid.

#42 Nadsat

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 13:24

Originally posted by Gareth
Sorry for this, my language skills are terrible. Is Alonso saying:

1. McLaren lied at Hungary

2. McLaren made Alonso lie to the stewards at Hungary or

3. Both 1 and 2?

Cheers for any clarifications.



He' saying that McLaren lied in Hungary in front of the stewards and played dirty tricks against him, which is something everyone knows in Spain since then.

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 13:24

as we'd use in this case in spain...."zas...in all your mouth" :rotfl:
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next lie mclaren should be...? I don't give them more than a month :wave:

#44 otoelpiloto

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 13:26

Originally posted by Nadsat



He' saying that McLaren lied in Hungary in front of the stewards and played dirty tricks against him, which is something everyone knows in Spain since then.


and after this interesting footage from mclaren garage all of us are going to be even more convinced of it...

#45 BMW_F1

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 13:26

Dado que la sanci贸n de los comisarios ha sido por "proporcionarles informaci贸n enga帽osa", preguntado Fernando Alonso sobre si la situaci贸n le recordaba el Gran Premio de Hungr铆a de 2007, dijo: "Claro que me record贸 al 2007.

given that the penalty imposed by the stewards was for "misleading information", Alonso was asked if this situation reminded him to the Hungarian GP back in 07. "Of course it reminded me of 2007" was his answer.

"No es la primera vez que van a ver a los comisarios, no es la primera vez que mienten a los comisarios y tarde o temprano ten铆an que sancionarles. Por supuesto ah铆 perd铆 el Mundial por un punto y en Hungr铆a se me jug贸 una mala pasada".

"it is not the first time that they go to see the stewards, it is not the first time that they lie to stewards and sooner or later they had to be penalized. Of course, right there I lost the WDC for one point and in Hungary they played dirty tricks on me. "

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Nothing new really..

#46 K-One

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 13:28

Originally posted by otoelpiloto
as we'd use in this case in spain...."zas...in all your mouth" :rotfl:
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next lie mclaren should be...? I don't give them more than a month :wave:


Immatureness of Alonso fans never cease to amaze me

Funnily in Hungary, Mclaren lied to cover Alonso :lol:

#47 primer

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 13:28

Originally posted by Kooper

Originally posted by Juan Pablo Montoya
'McLaren forced me to lie about my motorbike accident'


Originally posted by Mika Hakkinen

"Erja, Ron made me lie to you about......us."



#48 Slyder

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 13:29

[sarcasm]All Spaniards are racists, what do you expect?[/sarcasm]

#49 Orin

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 13:30

Originally posted by Nuvol
Alonso: "It's not first time that Mclaren lies"

"It remembered me 2007 season. It's not the first time they meet stewards, it's not the first time they lie to the stewards and soon or later they had to be punished. Of course I lost the championship by one point and racing at Hungaroring they made me a dirty trick"

http://www.marca.com...1238755398.html


I didn't brake test DC!!!???
I didn't wave my fist at the pitwall!!!???
I didn't block Lewis from pitting!!!!???
I didn't try to blackmail Ron Dennis!!!!???
...
...
...
:yawn:

#50 otoelpiloto

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 13:34

Originally posted by K-One


Immatureness of Alonso fans never cease to amaze me

Funnily in Hungary, Mclaren lied to cover Alonso :lol:


neither does me

thanks god your matureness let you reach an understanding protection of alonso against his golden boy from the guys of mclaren :lol: