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#1 kaivo

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 15:35

Does the FIA turned a blind eye to the team Brawn GP?
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#2 Madras

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 15:36

That's one of the worst translations I've ever tried to read.

#3 Mika Mika

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 15:46

Grooved tyres in the photo???

#4 kaivo

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 15:47

yes lol aahaha nice.

#5 bond

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 15:48

Originally posted by Mika Mika
Grooved tyres in the photo???


It was a test, according to the article...

#6 peroa

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 15:48

Carlos Miquel and the art of photoshop?
:rotfl:

And yes, 2cm of alu tube is standing in the way of prince Alonso!

:lol:

#7 Orin

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 15:53

Originally posted by peroa
Carlos Miquel and the art of photoshop?
:rotfl:

And yes 2cm of alu tube is standing in the way of prince Alonso!

:lol:


:rotfl:

As soon as I saw it was Marca I thought the same. It's likely to be a cut'n'paste from any old car plus an assortment of kitchen utensils.

#8 Mika Mika

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 15:54

Originally posted by bond


It was a test, according to the article...


Then that's BS, they had 7 days testing with the new car none of which with grooves.

#9 se7en_24

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 15:54

" Flavio Briatore says that stabbed them in the diffuser. "

Sounds painful. :blush:

#10 BuzzingHornet

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 15:57

That picture could be anything :lol:

I think its safe to say that if us forum trolls have got a picture of it, the likes of Williams, Ferrari and BMW will also have extensive info about what this is, and have they protested it or even mentioned it?

#11 bond

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 15:58

Originally posted by Mika Mika


Then that's BS, they had 7 days testing with the new car none of which with grooves.


According to them it was on the 28th of march...
They were doing refuelling simulations so they fitted with those tyres...
True or not, i don't know, so here's the link...

http://www.marca.com...1238912472.html

#12 Buttoneer

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 16:03

OMG!!!!!!!!!111111ONEONE Banninate thems!!!!!!

This is the version raced in Oz;

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For AS subscribers (where AS=Autosport rather than another sensationalist Spanish rag), Here is another pic showing the Malay version.

#13 big x

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 16:03

The Marca editorial this morning was hilarious."Marca calls for the FIA to investigate" ......
Amazing,they know better how to check a car than the scrutineers !

#14 Mika Mika

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 16:23

Originally posted by big x
The Marca editorial this morning was hilarious."Marca calls for the FIA to investigate" ......
Amazing,they know better how to check a car than the scrutineers !


Marca - EPIC FAIL

#15 Timstr11

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 16:31

Originally posted by Buttoneer
OMG!!!!!!!!!111111ONEONE Banninate thems!!!!!!

This is the version raced in Oz;

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For AS subscribers (where AS=Autosport rather than another sensationalist Spanish rag), Here is another pic showing the Malay version.

Actually this is the oil cooling side which has a larger opening.

The other side is closed with the exhaust sticking out a bit, but I believe it is within the allowed margins.
http://premium.f1-li...0/diapo_118.jpg

#16 DiStefano

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 21:38

Originally posted by peroa
Carlos Miquel and the art of photoshop?
:rotfl:

And yes, 2cm of alu tube is standing in the way of prince Alonso!

:lol:


Carlos Miquel now works for Marca?

#17 Minisenna

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 22:19

Ummm Another link http://www.f1network...91/st142644.htm

Best regards!!!

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#18 kaivo

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 05:54

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1.4 Bodywork :
All entirely sprung parts of the car in contact with the external air stream, except cameras, camera
housings and the parts definitely associated with the mechanical functioning of the engine, transmission
and running gear. Airboxes, radiators and engine exhausts are considered to be part of the bodywork.

#19 united

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 05:58

Miquel proudly works for AS.

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#20 bogi

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 06:41

Brawn have hidden Taliban in ther car, that 1cm pipe is AK-47.

#21 V8 Fireworks

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 07:02

Since their exhausts are far rearward that is probably outside of restricted area OR already fixed. Spanish journalists :rolleyes:

#22 Peter Perfect

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 07:06

Oh dear. Has Hamilton been forgotten already? :drunk:

#23 kaivo

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 07:08

yes, we need a new victim

#24 airwise

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 07:11

I'd like to see Brawn take action in the courts against these Spanish jokers for possible defamation. F1 really doesn't need the type of gutter press that seems to be associated with Marca.

#25 Andy Davies

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 08:03

Originally posted by kaivo

1.4 Bodywork :
All entirely sprung parts of the car in contact with the external air stream, except cameras, camera
housings and the parts definitely associated with the mechanical functioning of the engine, transmission
and running gear. Airboxes, radiators and engine exhausts are considered to be part of the bodywork.


Don't know where those photos were taken but weren't their Virgin logos on the sides of the cars for both races?

Andy

#26 Clatter

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 08:11

Originally posted by Andy Davies


Don't know where those photos were taken but weren't their Virgin logos on the sides of the cars for both races?

Andy


I think only from the Saturday at Melbourne.

#27 ForeverF1

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 08:17

Originally posted by Andy Davies


Don't know where those photos were taken but weren't their Virgin logos on the sides of the cars for both races?

Andy


I don't think it matters a jot where and when those photos were taken. The BGP001 passed scrutiny at both races. They were deemed legal and complied with rules and regs. The story is just a rag trying to create a sensation, nothing more. :rolleyes:

#28 Buttoneer

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 09:00

Originally posted by ForeverF1


I don't think it matters a jot where and when those photos were taken. The BGP001 passed scrutiny at both races. They were deemed legal and complied with rules and regs. The story is just a rag trying to create a sensation, nothing more. :rolleyes:

:up: Just a bit of rabble rousing to excuse the poor pace of a certain Asturian.

#29 kaivo

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 12:55

and now
http://www.f1technic...development/233

#30 Dragonfly

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 12:58

Another white elephant I'd say.

#31 Mika Mika

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 12:58

I think they xcan bee forgiven seeing how they had about 8 minutes to adapt their car tot he MErcedes power-plant....

#32 barteks

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 18:52

Quali in Melbourne:

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#33 Buttoneer

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 18:55

Originally posted by barteks
Quali in Melbourne:

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#34 Urawa

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 18:56

Originally posted by barteks
Quali in Melbourne:


That´s definitely not legal according to the rules

#35 jeze

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 18:58

Exhaust? I thought it was the diffuser?

#36 Madras

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 18:59

ok so they left their willy sticking out a bit, who cares?

#37 Dalek Caan

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 19:19

You have to laugh, this kind of developmental controversy does follow Ross Brawn around - and he knows perfectly well why. :lol: He's a wily old fox. :smoking:

#38 BMW_F1

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 19:22

http://www.racecar-e...questioned.html

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 19:40

The other teams have obviously said something already to Brawn otherwise they wouldn't have changed it. However the reason not much has been mentioned regarding it before is really because it nots giving a performance advantage at all. Also how that report thinks that they are pretuding by 10cm needs his eyes testing it cannot be anymore than 5cm at most.

Hes a comparison picture of the ferrari before it was changed.

http://www.autosport...1757_F2009_26-2


As you can see there is a huge difference between the Brawn and Ferrari.


Its just the paper trying anything to discredit a team doing well.

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#40 Jones Foyer

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 20:11

I suppose there is some exhaust tuning done in testing where the length is not yet fixed, the brawn pic in question have no numbers on the cars, so the car is not racing, practicing, or qualifying, so it really is a non-issue.

They're fast- honestly fast, get over it, accept it, folks.

#41 CrushedDreams

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 20:38

Originally posted by barteks
Quali in Melbourne:

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The brawn is even faster than we all thought if they Qualified in AUS with those tires... DAMN!!!

#42 Dragonfly

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 20:47

And no Virgin logo on some other pictures.

#43 noikeee

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 21:37

Marca's reasoning probably goes along the lines of: they're british, they're winning, therefore they're cheaters.

Sorry for the lame post but someone had to say it.

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 15:22

That's nothing compared to the exhausts on the new McLaren:

[IMG]http://inlinethumb21...S500x500Q85.jpg[/IMG]

#45 kaivo

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 15:23

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