FIA doesn't need FOTA or FOM - Mosleys vision
#1
Posted 09 April 2009 - 08:31
It's not that Mosley doesn't want FOTA, he doesn't need them, and with regards to FOM, I believe Mosley sees a future without Bernie too.
Personally, I'd like to see Mosleys vision become reality. What about you?
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#2
Posted 09 April 2009 - 08:56
#3
Posted 09 April 2009 - 08:59
He needs another few years to...
1. Put the new 30m budget rules in place.
2. Set up the standard engine
3. Set up the standard monocoque
4. Get some customer entries based on the above
5. Give the new guys the wins and fame by rigging the rules.
6. Kick those old troublemaker 'classic' teams out the door, and spank them with 100 million dollar fines on the way out.
Not sure that I'd actually say that I want to see all that.
F1 in 5 years time is really just a spec series no different than any other.
#4
Posted 09 April 2009 - 09:05
Originally posted by Motormedia
Personally, I'd like to see Mosleys vision become reality. What about you?
NO!mosley's vision is basically a world full of spec series, and that's not what i want to see
#5
Posted 09 April 2009 - 09:12
#6
Posted 09 April 2009 - 09:27
But please don't make the mistake that Mosley is doing this for us fans or for the good of motorsport - it's all about politics...
#7
Posted 09 April 2009 - 10:17
Originally posted by Broadway
Spec series exists. They are generally less interesting both from a marketing and spectator view.
Exactly.
#8
Posted 09 April 2009 - 10:25
Originally posted by Broadway
Spec series exists. They are generally less interesting both from a marketing and spectator view.[/B]
Not arguing that. Spec series has lower costs, though. F1 does not have a sustainable business model at the moment and in my view, it is directly related to the manufacturers increased involvement in the last few decades. Costs have been spiralling, turning F1 into a spending contest. I also believe the manufacturers involvement in the higher echeolons of motorsports has had a negative effect on costs in lower series too. A negative trickle down effect, if you will. The fact is that it is more expensive than ever to go motorracing, even on national levels. Mosleys proposal doesn't turn F1 into a spec series, why the budget cap proposal, in that case? What Mosley wants to see is independent teams, with racing as their core business, go racing. I'm all for it.
I have strong views on Mosley, as on FOTA and FOM, but I do share his view in this case. Motorsports has no future if the manufacturers are allowed to outspend each other.
#9
Posted 09 April 2009 - 11:53
If it happens I doubt I'll be watching.
#10
Posted 09 April 2009 - 12:41
Originally posted by beancounter
We have seen Mosley's vision for the past decade already. It's not pretty. I cannot believe you are seriously asking for more.
#11
Posted 09 April 2009 - 12:58
We know that no teams have ever appealed an FIA ruling in a real court of law, for fear of 'bringing the sport into disrepute' and getting banned for many years, which would basically mean shutting down a company with hundreds of employees... so, would it be possible for these real law court appeals to then take place in the hypothetical post-Max era?
#12
Posted 09 April 2009 - 13:06
The above, of course, is totally irrelevant if such a legal action is brought in the Italian courts and involves their beloved Ferrari!
#13
Posted 09 April 2009 - 14:32
#14
Posted 09 April 2009 - 14:42
Originally posted by alfa1
While we're on the topic of a hypothetical post-Max era, heres another Q.
We know that no teams have ever appealed an FIA ruling in a real court of law, for fear of 'bringing the sport into disrepute' and getting banned for many years, which would basically mean shutting down a company with hundreds of employees... so, would it be possible for these real law court appeals to then take place in the hypothetical post-Max era?
Of course they can. Minardi did, but withdrew after FIA threated their owners home GP. Teams can take FIA to court, if FIA doesn´t follow it´s own rules - in effect breaks the contract with the competitors. Since it would mean total war with the FIA, this not a route to be taken lightly. We´ll see what happends with the current crises.
-J