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#1 kaivo

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 12:27

Is this possible that the Toyota engine is optimized for more torq than HP.
Mega start in Sepang from Nico.

Q It was an amazing start by Nico from the dirty side of the grid. How did he do it? You could probably put it down to some great engine torque from Toyota.


Last year Toyota über start in Spa and other very good starts, when they takes 2-3 places in start.

Sorry for bad english :p

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#2 4MEN

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 12:38

And what about the starts of Nakajima, Trulli and Glock? :rolleyes:

#3 Madras

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 16:29

Originally posted by kaivo
Is this possible that the Toyota engine is optimized for more torq than HP.
Mega start in Sepang from Nico.

Last year Toyota über start in Spa and other very good starts, when they takes 2-3 places in start.

Sorry for bad english :p


Nothing to do with torque, it's about how the drivers apply the power.

#4 ATM_Andy

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 16:42

Originally posted by kaivo
Is this possible that the Toyota engine is optimized for more torq than HP.
Mega start in Sepang from Nico.

Last year Toyota über start in Spa and other very good starts, when they takes 2-3 places in start.

Sorry for bad english :p


Not really. It's, as always, far more complicated than that.

#5 Madras

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 16:45

Originally posted by ATM_Andy


Not really. It's, as always, far more complicated than that.


It isnt really. It's down to the driver, as the first reply pointed out.

#6 kaivo

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 16:56

Originally posted by 4MEN
And what about the starts of Nakajima, Trulli and Glock? :rolleyes:

Naka was surrounded by KERS cars.
Glock Timo was too much wheelspin
Trulli dont no, maybe bad start.
But how do you explain the good start the previous year.
In Speedtrap list, Toyota engine is last.
HP = Top Speed
Torq = Acceleration

#7 Madras

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 16:58

Originally posted by kaivo

Naka was surrounded by KERS cars.
Glock Timo was too much wheelspin
Trulli dont no, maybe bad start.
But how do you explain the good start the previous year.
In Speedtrap list, Toyota engine is last.
HP = Top Speed
Torq = Acceleration


Start = grip, low wheelspin.

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 17:06

Originally posted by Madras


It isnt really. It's down to the driver, as the first reply pointed out.


Driver is the least important factor during starts. The car is what matters the most. Read Nico Rosberg's interview after Malaysia GP.

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 17:12

Originally posted by Madras


It isnt really. It's down to the driver, as the first reply pointed out.


What does that have to do with engine torqe?????????

#10 Madras

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 17:22

Originally posted by Mika Mika


What does that have to do with engine torqe?????????


Nothing, which is the point really. I was talking about the starts.

#11 Mika Mika

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 17:24

Originally posted by Madras


Nothing, which is the point really. I was talking about the starts.


Well kaivo asked "Is this possible that the Toyota engine is optimized for more torq than HP?"

#12 Madras

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 17:25

Originally posted by Mika Mika


Well kaivo asked "Is this possible that the Toyota engine is optimized for more torq than HP?"


Then tried to justify it with the example of Rosberg's start...

#13 ATM_Andy

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 08:18

Forget it, I'm not here to argue, I was talking about the Toyota engine, like the thread title, and this other chap was talking about the dirvers.

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 09:01

Originally posted by ATM_Andy
Forget it, I'm not here to argue, I was talking about the Toyota engine, like the thread title, and this other chap was talking about the dirvers.


It's okay, you already won.;)

#15 Madras

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 09:06

It's interesting that Chubby and hunnylander havent bothered to answer the original question. At least I did. You're welcome to prove me wrong, maybe I am, I just posted my opinion on the matter. I'm no expert on engine torque, I was just pointing out other factors at work at the start.

#16 OLEV

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 13:38

No, you haven't. You made up your own questions (about factors contributing to quality of starts) and then tried to answer them - not always correctly.
See title of thread for clue.

#17 eoin

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 13:53

That would only make sense if Toyota powered cars usually got great starts which I don't believe they do. There seems to be a certain degree of luck on starts where sometimes a driver nails it. It's probably more down to tyre temps been perfect and getting the clutch set up to 'bite' which is as much guess work as science.