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#1 potmotr

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 14:48

I'm very much hoping someone out there has posted this on YouTube...


Renault Roadshow ends up in a crash

By Jonathan Noble Thursday, April 9th 2009, 13:44 GMT

Multiple Middle Eastern Rally Champion Mohammed Ben Sulayem brought his involvement in Renault's Formula 1 roadshow in Dubai to an early end on Thursday, when he smashed up an R28 in a sizeable accident.

Bin Sulayem was taking part in a drag race with a Ford GT driven by Renault test driver Romain Grosjean at the Dubai Autodrome when he lost control of the car.

Having had huge wheelspin off the line, the Renault suddenly snapped right into the pitwall, nearly collecting the Ford GT, before skidding to a halt down the track. The car suffered heavy front end damage, as well as the left rear wheel getting ripped from the car.

Ben Sulayem remained in the cockpit for several minutes after the accident, as marshals attended to him, before getting helped out.

Renault has been conducting a week of activities in Dubai and it is not clear if the accident suffered today will force it to bring the Roadshow to an early close. The team does have two cars present in Dubai, but one of them has already been out of action with an hydraulic problem.

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#2 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 14:50

You couldn't come up with a better title?;)

FIA Offical destroys Renault's F1 show

#3 potmotr

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 14:52

Originally posted by Gilles4Ever
You couldn't come up with a better title?;)


I was actually toying with Renault's Roadshow Riteoff but thought that might be a bit too SK8r...

#4 potmotr

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 14:55

Ah, I've found one:

This one gives you an appreciation of the impact. I particularly like the quote: "I KNEW IT!!!" from the guy on the pitwall...


And this one, another classic quote: "Hole. Eee. Shit!"


#5 Blythy

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 14:57

he binned it ... in a straight line?!?

who let him touch the thing?

OK, fess up renault, it was Piquet in the car, wasn't it!

#6 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 15:00

Originally posted by Blythy
he binned it ... in a straight line?!?

who let him touch the thing?

OK, fess up renault, it was Piquet in the car, wasn't it!


that was a very odd accident, he had got through the difficult launch, wonder if it was a diff problem.

#7 Owen

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 15:00

Hope the guy is alright.

#8 potmotr

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 15:03

From the Autosport picture he knocked at least one wheel off and left the a large pile of Renault bits on the side of the track.

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 15:25

Probably one of those rich princes with more money than talent who bought the drive :drunk:

Those show off events should be left to actual F1 drivers who know the cars :|

How many cars do F1 teams make in a year? Or do they just keep the same one for each driver and replace most of the parts?

#10 Blythy

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 15:30

Originally posted by 27GV
Probably one of those rich princes with more money than talent who bought the drive :drunk:

Those show off events should be left to actual F1 drivers who know the cars :|

How many cars do F1 teams make in a year? Or do they just keep the same one for each driver and replace most of the parts?


whey alonso used 1 chassis in 2006

reading one of steve matchett's books, they used several chassis in 1994, always returning to the dreaded chassis no. 3 (or something) so it depends. If they make an update on the chassis, they'll change the chassis, if a driver bins a car, they could change the chassis.

The chassis is really just the tub that surrounds the driver. The engine and everything else is effectively bolt on.

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 15:35

Originally posted by 27GV
Probably one of those rich princes with more money than talent who bought the drive :drunk:


Multiple Middle Eastern Rally Champion Mohammed Ben Sulayem



#12 potmotr

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 15:56

Originally posted by 27GV
Probably one of those rich princes with more money than talent who bought the drive :drunk:

Those show off events should be left to actual F1 drivers who know the cars :|


He's a pretty accomplished rally driver.

Given that McRae, Loeb and Solberg have shown it is possible for a rally driver to do an decent job in an F1 car, so this chap could do the same job no doubt.

#13 MichaelPM

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 16:07

R28, big deal. They should use an R26. Looks so much better and it was a decent car.

#14 Madras

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 16:13

Clever one, let the clueless inexperienced tit drive the F1 car...put the F1 test driver in the more basic car...

#15 ATM_Andy

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 16:38

Such a shame :(

#16 CaptnMark

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 16:43

Not really surprising, Fords usually do handle better than Renaults. :rotfl:

#17 peroa

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 18:01

What do you expect? From the time he`s off the line he`s basically hitting the limiter, even when the car`s in pieces, he`s still in the limiter.

:rotfl:

#18 turin

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 18:09

prolly he was trying to get to the apex sideways

#19 Racing Dutchman

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 18:10

Looks like the Kimi Raikkonen Imola 2001 crash.

PS: I saw those video's on a different website too, really love the "I knew it" and "Hoo Lee Shit"

PPS: not much crowd for a roadshow

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#20 potmotr

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 18:11

Originally posted by Racing Dutchman
Looks like the Kimi Raikkonen Imola 2001 crash.


Where Kimi's wheel came off in his hands?

#21 Racing Dutchman

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 18:13

Originally posted by potmotr


Where Kimi's wheel came off in his hands?

Jup

Also happened to Jan Lammers sometime, but he managed to put the steering wheel back in time (maybe harder now the steering wheels are more oval than round shaped (cannot miss contactpoint with the first one)

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 18:13

Originally posted by Racing Dutchman
Looks like the Kimi Raikkonen Imola 2001 crash.

PS: I saw those video's on a different website too, really love the "I knew it" and "Hoo Lee Shit"

PPS: not much crowd for a roadshow


Eh, looks like over-excitement. Anybody doing 3 starts in rfactor knows that such "throttle-application" ends up in tears.

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 18:15

Originally posted by peroa


Eh, looks like over-excitement. Anybody doing 3 starts in rfactor knows that such "throttle-application" ends up in tears.

He was already way passed the start and up to second or third gear I believe.

Maybe he touched the disconnectors instead of the gearlifter, that's why i referred to KR in 2001 who did the same

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 18:18

FIA official at the wheel of the Renault - the guy should stick to spanking Max's bum! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 18:19

Originally posted by Racing Dutchman

He was already way passed the start and up to second or third gear I believe.

Maybe he touched the disconnectors instead of the gearlifter, that's why i referred to KR in 2001 who did the same


So in 2nd and 3rd gear while at 18-19rpm doesn`t give you wheelspin?

#26 Racing Dutchman

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 18:21

Originally posted by BWL
FIA official at the wheel of the Renault - the guy should stick to spanking Max's bum! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Breaking News: now we know why Renault didn't got a punishment at the end of 2007. :p

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 19:22

Why did Mr Sheikh drive the F1 car, and not Grosjean. How irresponsible by Renault :stoned:

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 19:28

Reporter : "So Mr Mohammed Ben Sulayem, how small do you feel ?"



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Mohammed Ben Sulayem : "This small"

Reporter : "So about the same size as Bernie Ecclestone then ?"

Mohammed Ben Sulayem : "Yes Mr Reporter, if not a fraction smaller"

Reporter : So Mr Mohammed Ben Sulayem, how exactly did you crash a car on a straight doing 20 miles and hour in a non competitive envirmoment ? what exactly happened ?

Mohammed Ben Sulayem : err ... I came across some tumbleweed on the track....

Reporter : What ? Like this ?

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Mohammed Ben Sulayem : " errr ... Yes ..."

Reporter : "Is it true that you are really Piquet in disguise ?"

Mohammed Ben Sulayem : "Sorry, I can not answer that. I will have to check with Mr Davie Ryan first..."

Reporter : "Sorry Mr Mohammed Ben Sulayem, that will be a bit difficult, latest I heard he's down the local sausage roll office filling out his Job seekers allowance form, he may be some time...."

Mohammed Ben Sulayem : "ok, sorry Mr Reporter. Can I have an ice cream at least ?"

Reporter : "No, ask Renault"

Mohammed Ben Sulayem : "I do not think I am flavour of the month there..."

Reporter : "Vanilla ?...."

Mohammed Ben Sulayem : "What ?!?!?"

Mohammed Ben Sulayem : Mr Reporter, I have a middle eatern joke for you. What do you call a Renault R29 that's just been smashed into a wall?

Reporter : "Don't know"

Mohammed Ben Sulayem : "A big areodynamical and mechanical improvement....."

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 19:43

Originally posted by Racing Dutchman


PPS: not much crowd for a roadshow


ffs its a Dubai, everyone have Brabus or Ferrari :lol: They probably don't know anything about Renault :blush:

#30 Blythy

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 19:57

I'd like to compare "Piquet in disguise" to Mr Seven Second Ring King.

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 20:27

Originally posted by potmotr
Ben Sulayem remained in the cockpit for several minutes after the accident, as marshals attended to him, before getting helped out.


Probably hoping no one saw it... did you see the Ford GT driver get the hell away from that? :lol:

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 22:00

Too embarrassing...

http://www.youtube.c...player_embedded

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 22:02

Originally posted by Blythy
I'd like to compare "Piquet in disguise" to Mr Seven Second Ring King.

Was half expecting that to be one of these

#34 whitewaterMkII

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 22:10

Maybe you should retitle this thread:

"Why they use tyre warmers in F1"

:rotfl:

#35 whitewaterMkII

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 22:11

Originally posted by stevewf1


Probably hoping no one saw it... did you see the Ford GT driver get the hell away from that? :lol:


No kidding, that guy was so freaked he almost pegged the opposite wall.

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 02:06

HILARIOUS. It was also funny to see that it's not just the races, no one bothers to show up in the Middle East for "showpiece" F1 events!

Nelsinho is next on deck for Renault's promotional efforts. UAE's "Gulf News" has details of the event @Dubai Mall. I'd guess he will be using a replacement R28? Definitely going to be some pissed off mechanics either way. According to the article, he is suppose to be "performing tricks, including handbrake turns, wheelspins and power slides." :rotfl:

I had no clue who the former rally driver Mohammed ben Sulayem was - his wiki entry.

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 02:14

Originally posted by peroa


Eh, looks like over-excitement. Anybody doing 3 starts in rfactor knows that such "throttle-application" ends up in tears.


:lol: Did EXACTLY that last night. What's more who else but Piquet T-boned me as I was stricken on the main straight!

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 05:51

Originally posted by wewantourdarbyback

Multiple Middle Eastern Rally Champion Mohammed Ben Sulayem


:lol:

Let him try and win in WRC or even F3.

Edit: I really like how haji Abdul Islam applied some extra throttle even after crashing. :rotfl:

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 06:07

Originally posted by Racing Dutchman


PPS: not much crowd for a roadshow


Read an article the other day that they have to close beaches there because Dubai is turning into health hazard.
Swimming in the sea there is basically like swimming in your toilet.


http://www.telegraph...-to-public.html

Also the credit crunch is leaving a mark, people abandoning the country, leaving everything behind, since AFAIK you can`t go bankrupt there, not paying you` re debts results in going to jail.


EDIT: sorry for the OT, thread about this in the paddock club

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#40 Ruud de la Rosa

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 10:56

http://www.dumpert.n..._op_kosten.html

#41 klyster

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 10:58

^ Good quality ;)



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Posted 10 April 2009 - 11:04

Not really surprising, I wonder if guy was a given a chance to try a simulator or even a non-arcade F1 game to get an idea of how easy it is to spin those cars.

If there is something odd about this one, it sounds like TC was off.

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 11:10

Originally posted by wingwalker


If there is something odd about this one, it sounds like TC was off.


Surprisingly, it sounds like it was off, yes.

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 11:36

Originally posted by peroa
Read an article the other day that they have to close beaches there because Dubai is turning into health hazard.
Swimming in the sea there is basically like swimming in your toilet.


Then this would be a good place for the teams to dump their used KERS batteries then...

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 11:39

Originally posted by stevewf1


Then this would be a good place for the teams to dump their used KERS batteries then...


No, those are being dumped before the coast of Somalia, with some nuclear waste ...

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 11:41

Originally posted by peroa


No, those are being dumped before the coast of Somalia, with some nuclear waste ...



So much for KERS making F1 more 'green'.

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 11:41

Originally posted by klyster
^ Good quality ;)


That is a good clip.

Grosjean did well to avoid him.

He must have been laughing his arse off though.

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 11:42

Originally posted by peroa


Read an article the other day that they have to close beaches there because Dubai is turning into health hazard.
Swimming in the sea there is basically like swimming in your toilet.


http://www.telegraph...-to-public.html

Also the credit crunch is leaving a mark, people abandoning the country, leaving everything behind, since AFAIK you can`t go bankrupt there, not paying you` re debts results in going to jail.


EDIT: sorry for the OT, thread about this in the paddock club


Hole Heeee Shit! :lol:

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 12:04

Originally posted by peroa
No, those are being dumped before the coast of Somalia, with some nuclear waste ...


Yes, that would be even better.

(OT) - This whole piracy thing has me confused... seems like this could stopped fairly easily, but apparently not.

#50 potmotr

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 12:09

Originally posted by stevewf1


(OT) - This whole piracy thing has me confused... seems like this could stopped fairly easily, but apparently not.


The owners of the ships that have been captured have one thing in mind - the safety of the cargo.

They're quite happy to have the ships sit in waters off Somalia while the situation is resolved through pay offs which can then be claimed on insurance.

What they don't want to happen is for the cargo to be destroyed or crews killed.

This is especially true of that giant oil tanker that was taken at the end of last year.

All the talk of Rambo-style (or perhaps Steven Segal?) military operations to liberate vessels are 100% not what the shipping companies involved want.

And Barack Obama is unlikely to order a military operation in the Gulf of Aden. This will all be resolved with money.