I agree with you Re. Alpha, not conventional, slighly out of proportion layout, but far from ugly, has flowing lines, nice effort for the time and place
And all done on a budget of a packet of fags and a tank of oxy acetylene I imagine :-)
Posted 30 June 2010 - 12:32
I agree with you Re. Alpha, not conventional, slighly out of proportion layout, but far from ugly, has flowing lines, nice effort for the time and place
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 12:38
And all done on a budget of a packet of fags and a tank of oxy acetylene I imagine :-)
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Posted 13 September 2010 - 00:23
I agree with you Re. Alpha, not conventional, slighly out of proportion layout, but far from ugly, has flowing lines, nice effort for the time and place
Posted 20 September 2010 - 09:46
I agree. I rather see an ugly fast car that can overtake then a beautiful fast car that cannot.indy cars are ugly in their current form
BUT they do run nose to tail far better then F-1 and PASS
what makes them able to do so that F-1 canNOT
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I just found this one in, on(?) a brasilian blog. I have no idea about the portuguese language but F5000 appears in the text a few times. So i guess it's a F-5000 build by Antonio Carlos Avallone.
By the way: that Eagle Flyer-Chevy is imho not that ugly. It just looks like some fighter spacecraft from a SciFi movie and not like a race car.
Is my memory playing tricks with me, or did I see Carlos Avallone race in F5000 at Brands Hatch?
The Avallone car looks like a Lola T142 in fancy dress...
No wonder he's got his head in his hands!
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The 1969 GRAC MT8 that was entered in the French F3 championship:
Posted 06 April 2012 - 22:16
"Strewth, who built that??"
"Vin did."
Hence the car's name, the Vindid.
Vin Smith had a front engined, de-dion-rear-axle single seater called the Alpha. Come the rear engined revolution, he moved the engine back as far as it could go, put the driver's seat and wheel in the former engine bay, draped his legs over the top tube of the VW based front suspension, and bingo: rear engined racer. It lasted one season, then he built a proper rear-engined from scratch. (It show's Vin's lateral thinking - his new car had a VW gearbox, but instead of swing axles, he sourced the box from a Tempo Wagen, which used VW engine and box to drive the front wheels - and got a proper IRS on the cheap, drive shafts and all.
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I remember going to an early season Mallory clubbie in 1969 and Avallone entered his Lola T140 (not 142) in the Libre race, which he ran away with. However, when he appeared at the Guards F5000 round in May he was thoroughly outclassed. He obviously used the bits from the T140 to build an Interserie type contraption.
Posted 07 April 2012 - 13:57
looks like a pig´s penis, but nice wheels.
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Posted 28 April 2013 - 20:33
Not exactly an ugly car, but certainly unusual - Smokey Yunick's sidecar racer is worth a look
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Or even the Parnelli with the wings on the sidepods? I'm sure some kind person with the wherewithal can post an image of some of these...
Posted 30 April 2013 - 20:07
This one... http://farm1.staticf...38c6_z.jpg?zz=1
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 20:29
Joe Leonards Parnelli also available in yellow, and as you say later sans the odd mounted wings.Yes although my memory was of that car in a yellow or pale orange colour... the wings are smaller than I remember, although they did take them off for the year after?
Thanks Alan, any pics of the others? The Preston tucker looked like a half arsed auto union...
Posted 30 April 2013 - 20:55
Joe Leonards Parnelli also available in yellow, and as you say later sans the odd mounted wings.
Miller Preston Tucker Special IMHO way ahead of the curve explored much later by Cooper and Lotus ;)
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 21:08
The hand bumpers deserve probably an explanation of their own...
Posted 30 April 2013 - 21:13
Thanks art, although I can't see the first two?
Posted 30 April 2013 - 21:32
The links worked fine just now
Posted 12 May 2013 - 15:39
Did someone say Antares?Any mentions so far of the Preston Tucker special from Indy in the 40's? Or the Antares? Or even the Parnelli with the wings on the sidepods? I'm sure some kind person with the wherewithal can post an image of some of these...
Posted 12 May 2013 - 15:56
Not just the wings, they took the entire car off the track in '73, in favor of this stunner...Yes although my memory was of that car in a yellow or pale orange colour... But thats the car or very close, the wings are smaller than I remember, although they did take them off for the year after?
Posted 13 May 2013 - 17:44
Oh good grief! That is awful - why did anyone think it would be any good?Did someone say Antares?
Posted 14 May 2013 - 11:50
Oh good grief! That is awful - why did anyone think it would be any good?
Which kinds of begs the question, did any of these ugly cars ever prove very effective, or is there a direct link between looks and success? Or do we see ugliness differently if we see that it is successful?
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 16:20
Oh good grief! That is awful - why did anyone think it would be any good?
Posted 15 May 2013 - 09:29
Did someone say Antares?
Posted 15 May 2013 - 12:41
I don't think that either car was particularly pretty or ugly. Both were interesting experiments.Well... search your conscience. Do you think the Brabham Fan car is ugly? (Winning car)
And the Arrows A2 pretty? (Losing car)
Posted 15 May 2013 - 12:52
Coupe de l'Auto Peugeot?I am trying to think of a winning car that was generally considered to be ugly, but nothing comes to mind ATM.
Posted 15 May 2013 - 13:53
I am trying to think of a winning car that was generally considered to be ugly, but nothing comes to mind ATM. Perhaps we tend to categorise successful but aesthetically challenged cars as 'purposeful' rather than ugly?
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I am trying to think of a winning car that was generally considered to be ugly
Posted 15 May 2013 - 23:08
Lotus 18: not particularly elegant - but effective!I am trying to think of a winning car that was generally considered to be ugly, but nothing comes to mind ATM. Perhaps we tend to categorise successful but aesthetically challenged cars as 'purposeful' rather than ugly?