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#1 Jojodyne

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:37

Thought I'd start this already. Especially since the current weather conditions are promising a very interesting race start. I can see Bourdais going off in turn 1 already :)

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#2 Kelateboy

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:40

How about the weather guys??? Not the type of downpour you see in Sepang, but wet enough to cause cars to go off the track.

It should be a very interesting race.

Kovalainen and Piquet would stop on Lap 32 or so, and might be able to go for a 1-stopper after all.

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#3 Jojodyne

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:46

If Red Bull get the strategy change right, Vettel should be doing well. So will Hamilton hopefully. Surviving the first corner will be crucial. Also keep an eye on Buemi. It will be interesting how he performs in the wet, now that the Buemi hype is taking shape.

#4 Kelateboy

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:47

It is drizzling, and Vettel's maiden win was in the rain at Monza last year.

Will he be the favorite this time around?

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#5 stevewf1

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:48

A safety car "start"? :(

#6 Jojodyne

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:48

Originally posted by Kelateboy
It is drizzling, and Vettel's maiden win was in the rain at Monza last year.

Will he be the favorite this time around?

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He certainly is from where I'm sitting :up:

#7 Clatter

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:49

Originally posted by Kelateboy
It is drizzling, and Vettel's maiden win was in the rain at Monza last year.

Will he be the favorite this time around?

-KB


Not sure about that with his fuel load.

#8 Jojodyne

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:50

The again, the early stoppers (Alonso, Vettel, Webber) might be unlucky if conditions change.

#9 Kelateboy

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:51

Originally posted by stevewf1
A safety car "start"? :(

The race will start behind the safety car. It will negate Hamilton's KERS.

Vettel is sitting pretty.

Full wets or inters, guys?

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#10 undersquare

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:52

Donnelly walking around with Todt on the grid...

#11 Jojodyne

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:52

Lot's of standing water, so full wets I would guess . . .

#12 Dalek Caan

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:53

Originally posted by Jojodyne
The again, the early stoppers (Alonso, Vettel, Webber) might be unlucky if conditions change.


SAFETY CAR START!

#13 Clatter

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:53

Confirmed SC start.

#14 Jojodyne

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:55

Originally posted by Clatter
Confirmed SC start.


Handicap for the lighter cars

#15 Kelateboy

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:55

Originally posted by Clatter


Not sure about that with his fuel load.

It plays right into Button and Barrichello's hands because they are stopping later, and could have a wider window to choose their tyres if the weather changes.

Doing a couple of laps behind the safety car on economy-mode could see Vettel pitting on Lap 15-16.

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#16 undersquare

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:56

Originally posted by Kelateboy

The race will start behind the safety car. It will negate Hamilton's KERS.

Vettel is sitting pretty.

Full wets or inters, guys?

-KB


Full wets for me. SC start is bad for the front 3 IMO, especially FA, buring up their small fuel loads but making no time on the others. LH can still use his kers on the back straight, where he intended to IMO.

#17 Jojodyne

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:57

Originally posted by Kelateboy

It plays right into Button and Barrichello's hands because they are stopping later, and could have a wider window to choose their tyres if the weather changes.

Doing a couple of laps behind the safety car on economy-mode could see Vettel pitting on Lap 15-16.

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Brawn doesn't have a lot of experience in the wet. Bit of an unknown

#18 Clatter

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:57

Originally posted by Kelateboy

It plays right into Button and Barrichello's hands because they are stopping later, and could have a wider window to choose their tyres if the weather changes.

Doing a couple of laps behind the safety car on economy-mode could see Vettel pitting on Lap 15-16.

-KB


Although we don't know yet what the Brawn is like in the wet.

#19 Lopek

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:57

Is it not now compulsary to use full wets if it is a safety car start? Thought there was a regulation change last year.

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#20 pacwest

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:58

Ok who's on inters? Race control weather forecast?

#21 Clatter

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:58

Has there been a forecast if it is supposed to dry out during the race?

#22 pacwest

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:59

Oh, and I'm pulling for Webber today. He's gotta get a break sometime.

#23 Clatter

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:00

Originally posted by pacwest
Ok who's on inters? Race control weather forecast?


No one, at least there shouldnt be.

#24 Kelateboy

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:01

It seems that everybody is on full wets.

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#25 Kelateboy

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:02

I am rooting for Vettel, Alonso, Button and Barrichello for the race win.... :D

Anybody but Hamilton!

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#26 Saturnus

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:03

Doesn't this mean that no-one needs to use the supersofts?

#27 Clatter

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:03

Originally posted by Saturnus
Doesn't this mean that no-one needs to use the supersofts?


Yep.

#28 Jojodyne

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:03

Originally posted by Kelateboy
I am rooting for Vettel, Alonso, Button and Barrichello for the race win.... :D

Anybody but Hamilton!

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Kelate -"BAD"- boy ;)

#29 rolf123

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:03

Safety car start? Why?

It's not even raining that hard.

Ridiculous.


Williams cars don't want to start? Man, these guys are chickens. Just get on with it, there is always some risk in the rain.

#30 Jojodyne

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:04

Originally posted by rolf123
Safety car start? Why?

It's not even raining that hard.

Ridiculous.


Lots of standing water

#31 Phucaigh

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:04

This is so exciting :down:

#32 Dooly Tilly

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:05

What a load of pansies. :down: :down:

#33 Saturnus

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:06

This race can be decided by how many laps they do behind the safety car. Every new lap is a blow tthe chances of the top 3.

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:07

Vettel: "There is water on the track"

No shit. :p

#35 Jojodyne

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:07

Originally posted by Dooly Tilly
What a load of pansies. :down: :down:


Vettel: "there is water on the track, ... , but we've had far worse". Not a pansy then . :rolleyes:

#36 stevewf1

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:07

The spectator stands look full.

#37 Kelateboy

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:08

Massa went off the track off Turn 16...

Remember Silverstone last year?? :D :D

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#38 Jojodyne

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:08

Originally posted by Dooly Tilly
Vettel: "There is water on the track"

No shit. :p

:rotfl: :rotfl:

#39 Clatter

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:08

Originally posted by stevewf1
The spectator stands look full.


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#40 Clatter

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:09

HK has not only completed his first racing lap, but he also has the fastest lap. :lol:

#41 kaivo

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:09

FIA evil plan muahaahah

#42 Jojodyne

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:09

There even going off behind the pace car!

#43 Bloggsworth

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:10

Sutil gets a brake test..................

#44 fanboy

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:11

F1 has turned into a joke. They have been racing for decades in the wet in much worse cars than the modern ones yet they refuse to risk anything and race. Bunch of pathetic pussies. Its another farce.

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:11

What a load of antiseptic wipes.

Let them race FFS.

#46 Buford

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:12

Originally posted by fanboy
F1 has turned into a joke. They have been racing for decades in the wet in much worse cars than the modern ones yet they refuse to risk anything and race. Bunch of pathetic pussies. Its another farce.


I agree completely.

#47 Dooly Tilly

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:12

FFS they should delay the start in cases like this. Sepang was a farce and this race looks set to be one as well; at this race there's no likelihood of racing anytime soon. :mad:

#48 fanboy

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:13

Originally posted by Jojodyne


Lots of standing water


There is lots of standing water in the rain since the dawn of time, and it never stopped them before. Its nothing new. Whiiting is a damn idiot. They just might spend half the race like this. The guy is as stupid as mosley.

#49 rolf123

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:13

This is a newer track with decent drainage, wide track. FFS let them race!

Alonso and Vettel want to race!!!

#50 Saturnus

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:13

How big advantage will the cars with a wet weather set up have? Or have evryone been allowed to change their setup from qualifying?