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#1 Makarias

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 11:07

New entries are always welcome!
Do note the difference between entering the game for the first time and making changes to your existing entry:
If you don't want to make any changes, you don't need to make any post here!
* New entries submit an entry with 100 shares as described below
* Existing players may only shift position for at most 20 of their shares each round, as described below.

Deadline for both edits and new entries is the start of first free practice.

Initial thread (including scoring rules)
Malaysia edits
China edits
Bahrain edits
Spain edits (including entries as of Bahrain)

Submitting an initial entry

The first time you play this game, you shall submit an entry where you place 100 shares among the drivers, fulfilling these conditions:

* You may only hold 100 shares (or less, which doesn't help you) in total at a time.
* You can not own fractions of a share, just integer shares.
* You can place no more than 50 shares on any one driver.
* You must own shares in at least three drivers.
* You may not own shares in more than ten drivers.
* You may edit your first entry as much as you like until the edit deadline (first free practice) for the coming race.

Note that there is no limit to the number of shares available for each driver.
Also note that your initial entry is the basis for the following rounds too! You'll be allowed to change no more than 20 shares before each race, so make sure your initial entry looks at least 80% respectable...

Entry Example A:
Massa 37
Hamilton 22
Kovalainen 16
Webber 12
Coulthard 10
Button 3

Editing your entry after the first round it takes part in
* After the first race your entry took part in, you may only change 20 of your shares at a time (for the next race).
* You do not have to edit your entry at all! If you so wish, you can leave your entry as it is from race one and not make a single change throughout the season.
* If a driver is replaced -temporarily or permanently- during the season, the shares placed on him will automatically be transferred to the replacing driver. So you could say that the shares actually are attached to the car number.
* You may edit your changes as much as you like until the edit deadline for the coming race.
* Edit deadline for changes is the beginning of first free practice for each race.

Example B:
After the first race, the shareholder who submitted the entry in Example A realizes that Red Bull stink infinitely, and submits an edit to her entry as follows:

Sell:
Webber -10
Coulthard -10

Buy:
Alonso +10
Hamilton +5
Kovalainen +5

Her new "portfolio" will after the entry look like this:
Massa 37
Hamilton 27
Kovalainen 21
Alonso 10
Button 3
Webber 2

This might be a good format to post changes:

Example B again:
Massa 37
Hamilton 27 (+5)
Kovalainen 21 (+5)
Alonso 10 (+10)
Button 3
Webber 2 (-10)
Coulthard 0 (-10)

Posting changes in this way may make it easier for you to keep track of what your portfolio looks like, if you look back into these change threads.
Just look at the initial thread, and it's a bit of a drag to backtrack some players' changes!

An edit doesn't have to look just like above, any way is fine as long as it's easy to understand which driver shares are to be sold and which to be bought.

NOTE: I won't automatically be posting updates on what each player's portfolio looks like, so remember to keep track of what you own!


DRIVER DShares Race Season VPP Owners
Button 561 5.76 97.87 174 33
Vettel 439 4.51 76.59 222 27
Barrichello 374 3.84 65.25 261 27
Trulli 323 3.32 56.35 302 26
Webber 282 2.89 49.20 346 20
Räikkönen 242 2.48 42.22 403 21
Glock 241 2.47 42.04 405 21
Hamilton 221 2.27 38.55 441 19
Massa 211 2.17 36.81 462 19
Rosberg 202 2.07 35.24 483 16
Alonso 182 1.87 31.75 536 17
Kubica 173 1.78 30.18 564 14
Heidfeld 110 1.13 19.19 887 10
Kovalainen 98 1.01 17.09 996 9
Nakajima 40 0.41 6.97 2441 5
Buemi 35 0.36 6.10 2790 7
Piquet 29 0.30 5.05 3367 4
Bourdais 17 0.17 2.96 5744 4
Fisichella 11 0.11 1.91 8878 2
Sutil 9 0.09 1.57 10851 4

The table above shows how the shares are distributed and the race points scores corresponding to these share distributions.
A driver's share provides above average return when the driver scores more points than the value listed for him in the "Race" column.


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SHARE CHANGE + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
DRIVER -50 -20 -10 -5 -1 VPP 1 5 10 20 50
Button 211 198 194 192 190 190 190 188 186 183 173
Barrichello 289 264 257 254 251 250 250 247 244 238 221
Vettel 299 274 266 262 259 259 258 255 252 245 228
Trulli 386 344 332 326 322 321 320 315 310 300 274
Webber 430 378 364 357 352 350 349 344 338 326 296
Glock 459 401 384 377 371 370 368 362 356 343 309
Kubica 495 428 409 401 394 392 391 384 377 362 325
Rosberg 508 438 418 409 402 401 399 392 384 370 331
Räikkönen 569 482 459 448 440 438 436 428 418 401 356
Massa 629 525 497 485 475 473 470 461 450 430 378
Hamilton 720 586 552 537 525 522 519 508 495 470 409
Alonso 737 598 562 546 534 531 528 516 503 477 415
Heidfeld 1251 897 819 785 760 754 748 725 699 651 540
Kovalainen 2881 1509 1302 1219 1159 1145 1132 1080 1022 923 714
Nakajima 9509 2377 1901 1728 1611 1584 1558 1462 1358 1188 864
Buemi N/A 6792 3962 3278 2881 2796 2716 2438 2161 1760 1132
Piquet N/A 7314 4134 3396 2971 2881 2796 2502 2211 1794 1145
Bourdais N/A N/A 13584 7924 5943 5593 5282 4322 3521 2570 1419
Fisichella N/A N/A 95090 15848 9509 8644 7924 5943 4528 3067 1558
Sutil N/A N/A N/A 23772 11886 10565 9509 6792 5004 3278 1611

The above table illustrates the VPP changes if existing players move shares around.


VPP samples
Players Shares/driver
100 150 200 250 300 350 400 450 500 550 600 700 800 900
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38 976 651 488 390 325 279 244 217 195 177 162 139 122 108
39 1002 668 501 400 334 286 250 222 200 182 167 143 125 111
40 1028 685 514 411 342 293 257 228 205 186 171 146 128 114
41 1053 702 526 421 351 301 263 234 210 191 175 150 131 117

VPP as a function of number of players and number of shares placed on a driver.


Return per share season history
TOT AUS MAL CHN BAH ESP MON TUR GB GER HUN EUR BEL ITA SIN JPN BRA ABU
Buemi 15325 8986 0 6339 0 0
Button 9778 2740 2210 1188 1900 1740
Webber 8313 0 1965 4272 0 2076
Barrichello 7498 2320 940 1150 1000 2088
Vettel 6752 0 0 3570 2072 1110
Glock 6330 2220 2628 742 740 0
Trulli 5730 2064 1740 0 1926 0
Hamilton 5580 0 1056 1914 2610 0
Heidfeld 4982 0 3208 0 0 1774
Kovalainen 4368 0 0 4368 0 0
Alonso 4039 1364 0 0 531 2144
Rosberg 3135 2121 531 0 0 483
Bourdais 2090 2090 0 0 0 0
Massa 1386 0 0 0 0 1386
Räikkönen 1314 0 0 0 1314 0
Fisichella 0 0 0 0 0 0
Kubica 0 0 0 0 0 0
Nakajima 0 0 0 0 0 0
Piquet Jr 0 0 0 0 0 0
Sutil 0 0 0 0 0 0

Scoring over 1000 points per share in a round means that the share did above average.

Edited by Makarias, 11 May 2009 - 11:10.


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#2 brunopascal

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 14:54

MONACO CHANGES:

Button	   20  (+2) 
Vettel	   20  (+4)
Webber	   20  (+4)
Barrichello  20 (+10)
Räikkönen	 8  (+2)
Trulli		8 (-12)
Sutil		 2  
Buemi		 2


#3 _tr

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 18:02

Kubica 22 (-3)
Vettel 20
Webber 18 (+8)
Trulli 15
Button 13
Alonso 12 (+12)

Heidfeld 0 (-15)
Sutil 0 (-2)

#4 scheivlak

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 10:16

Button 25 (+10)
Vettel 20 (-5)
Hamilton 14
Webber 10
Raikkonen 7 (-3)
Glock 6 (-4)
Barrichello 5
Kubica 5
Rosberg 5 (+5)
Alonso 3

Piquet 0 (-3)


#5 fisichella_2001

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Posted 18 May 2009 - 00:54

Vettel - 25 (+10)
Webber - 20 (+10)
Alonso - 15
Barrichello - 10
Button - 10
Glock - 5 (-5)
Rosberg - 5 (-5)
Kubica - 5 (-10)
Kovalainen - 3
Buemi - 2


#6 Kooper

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 13:58

Button 29 (+1) = 30
Vettel 22
Barrichello 12 (+5) = 17
Webber (+12) = 12
Trulli 10 (+2) = 12
Raikkonen 10 (-3) = 7


Hamilton 9 (-9) = 0
Massa 8 (-8) = 0

#7 Makarias

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 23:13

Trulli 24
Button 23
Barrichello 16 (-3)
Glock 11 (-8)
Webber 11 (+6)
Vettel 7
Hamilton 3
Sutil 3 (+3)
Fisichella 1 (+1)
Buemi 1 (+1)


#8 Makarias

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 23:17


DRIVER DShares Race Season VPP Owners
Button 572 5.87 99.79 170 33
Vettel 444 4.56 77.46 219 27
Barrichello 386 3.96 67.34 253 27
Webber 318 3.26 55.48 307 21
Trulli 313 3.21 54.61 312 26
Räikkönen 238 2.44 41.52 410 21
Glock 224 2.30 39.08 435 21
Hamilton 212 2.18 36.98 460 18
Massa 203 2.08 35.41 481 18
Rosberg 202 2.07 35.24 483 17
Alonso 194 1.99 33.84 503 18
Kubica 160 1.64 27.91 610 14
Kovalainen 98 1.01 17.09 996 9
Heidfeld 95 0.98 16.57 1028 9
Nakajima 40 0.41 6.97 2441 5
Buemi 36 0.37 6.28 2712 8
Piquet 26 0.27 4.53 3756 3
Bourdais 17 0.17 2.96 5744 4
Fisichella 12 0.12 2.09 8138 3
Sutil 10 0.10 1.74 9766 4


#9 Apex

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 23:20

Rosberg 0 (-10)
Massa 20 (+5)
Räikkönen 20
Barrichello 10
Kubica 5
Buemi 5
Button 0 (-10)
Vettel 15
Trulli 10
Heidfeld 5 (+5)
Bourdais 5 (+5)
Sutil 5 (+5)

#10 dnbn

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 01:19

Glock 20
Trulli 20 (+10)
Alonso 10
Raikkonen 0 (-10)
Vettel 10
Button 10
Barrichello 10
Buemi 0 (-10)
Webber 10
Hamilton 10 (+10)

#11 skylark68

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 04:40

OLD
Button 25
Vettel 25 (-8)
Gloc 15 (-2)
Barr 20 (-5)
Trul 15

NEW

Button 25
Vettel 17
Trulli 17
Barr 15
Glock 13
Webber 9
Hamilton 4

#12 kNt

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 12:15


Glock 20
Webber 20
Massa 15 (+15)
Rosberg 15
Nakajima 12 (-3)
Trulli 7
Sutil 5 (+5)
Buemi 3
Bourdais 2
Fisichella 1
Heidfeld 0 (-14)
Piquet 0 (-3)

#13 howardt

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 13:18

Button 20
Alonso 10
Massa 10
Raikkonen 10
Glock 10
Trulli 10 (-10)
Webber 10 (+5)
Hamilton 10 (+5)
Heidfeld 5 (+5)
Vettel 5
Kovaleinen 0 (-5)

Thanks!



#14 Costaz

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 15:40

Button 25-5=20
Barrichello 20
Vettel 20
Trulli 15-5=10
Hamilton 10
Alonso 5
Kovalainen 5-5=0

Massa 0+10=10
Räikkönen 0+5=5

#15 Alapan

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 18:22

Mass 15
Alon 15
Vett 13 (+8)
Webb 10
Naka 5 (-5)
Fisi 2 (-8)
Butt 20
Barr 15
Trul 5 (+5)

#16 _tr

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 18:34

My own unofficial calculation about shares value after Costaz's pick:

[codebox] -50 -20 -10 -5 -1 VPP 1 5 10 20 50 DShares
Button 192 181 178 176 175 175 175 173 172 169 160 557
Vettel 253 234 229 226 224 223 223 221 218 214 200 436
Barrichello 295 270 263 259 257 256 255 253 249 243 226 381
Webber 346 313 303 298 295 294 293 289 285 277 255 332
Trulli 375 336 325 320 316 315 314 310 305 295 271 310
Räikkönen 533 458 437 428 420 419 417 410 401 386 345 233
Massa 533 458 437 428 420 419 417 410 401 386 345 233
Hamilton 539 462 441 432 424 422 420 413 405 389 347 231
Glock 567 483 460 450 441 439 437 430 420 403 359 222
Alonso 678 561 530 516 506 503 500 490 478 456 400 194
Rosberg 687 567 536 522 511 508 506 495 483 460 403 192
Kubica 887 697 651 630 614 610 606 591 574 542 465 160
Heidfeld 2381 1375 1205 1135 1085 1073 1061 1017 966 879 692 91
Kovalainen 2570 1436 1252 1176 1122 1109 1097 1050 996 904 707 88
Nakajima N/A 5744 3617 3051 2712 2639 2570 2325 2077 1713 1122 37
Buemi N/A 16276 6103 4650 3906 3756 3617 3150 2712 2123 1285 26
Piquet Jr N/A 32553 7512 5425 4439 4246 4069 3487 2959 2271 1337 23
Bourdais N/A 48830 8138 5744 4650 4439 4246 3617 3051 2325 1356 22
Sutil N/A N/A 9766 6510 5140 4883 4650 3906 3255 2441 1395 20
Fisichella N/A N/A 48830 13951 8878 8138 7512 5744 4439 3051 1575 12
[/codebox]

It's interesting how people rate teammates (I think that number of shares somehow show it):
Buton 557 > Barrichello 381. Difference is 176 shares = Button is better by 31,6 % :)
Vettel 436 > Webber 332. Difference is 104 shares = 23,8 % of Vettel's shares.
Trulli 310 > Glock 222. Difference is 88 shares = 28,4 % of Trulll's shares.
Raikonen and Massa are exactly equally
Alonso 194 >>> Piquet Jr 23... Huge difference - 171 shares. Piquet has only 11,8% of Alonso shares. So according to our game Alonso is 8 times better than his teammate :)
Almost the same is in case of Rosberg (192 shares) and Nakajima (37). Difference is 155 shares (Nakajima has only 19,2 % of Rosberg shares)
And last - Kubica is almost twice better than Heidfeld (160 to 91, difference 69 = 43,1 % of Kubica's shares)

There is too few shares to compare Sutil with Fisichella and Bourdais with Buemi in my opinion.

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wow - after Alapan pick every point scored by Fisichella is worth 24415 points :)

Edited by _tr, 20 May 2009 - 18:39.


#17 ville

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 21:07

Kovalainen 21 (-5)
Button 20
Webber 20
Glock 15 (-5)
Heidfeld 11
Bourdais 5 (+5)
Buemi 5 (+5)
Piquet 3

#18 noikeee

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 21:26

Barrichello 35 (-15)
Button 30
Raikkonen 5
Heidfeld 0 (-5)
Trulli 5
Rosberg 5
Webber 18 (+18)
Piquet 1 (+1)
Fisichella 1 (+1)

Edited by paranoik0, 20 May 2009 - 21:27.


#19 Xig

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 02:20

Button 23(+3)
Rosberg 5(-5)
Massa 5
Glock 15
Heidfeld 5
Vettel 16
Barrichello 17(+2)
Trulli 14

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#20 swiniodzik

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 04:38

Webber 23 (+6)
Vettel 20
Button 17 (-6)
Hamilton 15
Kubica 13
Massa 12

#21 _tr

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 18:32

If I count correctly this time I'm last with only 54 680 points... :rolleyes:

Congratulations to paranoik0 for next victory (167 128 points)

My calculations:
Bourdais - 3617 points
Räikkönen - 2514 points
Barrichello - 2120 points
Massa - 2095 points
Button - 1760 points
Rosberg - 1566 points
Webber - 1096 points
Alonso - 1006 points