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#1 Ray Bell

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Posted 24 January 2000 - 18:36

Persistent Dennis David references implying that I am more than just mature years prompts me to ask this. First, Dennis, you tell your age - more or less than my 53?
And what about some others, come on, apart from Nomad and a few who excuse their ignorance because of their youth we know all too little!

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#2 Fast One

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Posted 24 January 2000 - 19:35

48 and fading fast!

#3 Marcel Schot

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Posted 24 January 2000 - 21:37

I'm in the year of Gilles : 27 years old. born in 72 on the 6th day of the 12th month...ain't it beautiful : 6 * 12 = 72, spelled backwards is 27 :) This must be my lucky year...oh..I'm rambling on again

#4 Dennis David

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Posted 24 January 2000 - 23:08

My mind says 20 but unfortunatly my body says 46!

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#5 DAT

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Posted 24 January 2000 - 23:41

XXI

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#6 Paste

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Posted 25 January 2000 - 00:25

19.. almost 20 though!! :)

#7 Dennis David

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Posted 25 January 2000 - 02:22

Ray, I hope you didn't take the remarks wrong I assumed you knew that you, I, Don and Fast were of the same age group. The remarks were as much about me as they were about you! Hell my familiy keeps asking me about what I did during the Civil War! ;-) I just enjoy the younger people on this BB probably with more than a little wistful thinking.

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#8 Ray Bell

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Posted 25 January 2000 - 05:24

One of the great things about Australia is that we never had a civil war...

I once asked Geoff Sykes (ex-BRDC man who came to Australia to run Warwick Farm), and whose initials shown in race programmes were GPFS, what those initials stood for.
His response was: "Geoffrey Percival Frederick .... there's nothing you can do about that!" And it's the same with our age.

I have tended to put on a little extra weight lately and I asked a friend why. They said "must be middle age spread." In answer, I just had to say, "Well why have I got it so early?"



#9 Dennis David

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Posted 25 January 2000 - 05:40

The last time I was in Australia was due to a project for Qantas. Unfortunatly that project is finished. Don't know when I'll be visiting again though.

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#10 Don Capps

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Posted 25 January 2000 - 05:55

Apparently Ray and I will match ages in about a month, but Mario Andretti will always be seven years older than me....

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#11 Eric McLoughlin

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Posted 25 January 2000 - 06:18

I'm 41 going on 42. I'd have used Roman numerals too only I never learned to count beyond XXXIX.

#12 Bruce

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Posted 25 January 2000 - 07:20

33.... 1966 was a very good year... ;)

#13 Racer.Demon

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Posted 25 January 2000 - 07:28

A mere 31.

Imagine, with me there seem to be quite a few people here who haven't actually *seen* Fangio, Moss or Clark race but only read about them in books and still admire everything they've done, almost above what the current guys are doing.

Now you see why reading is better for the mind and the soul than television...

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#14 Eric McLoughlin

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Posted 25 January 2000 - 07:55

Specially for the youngsters out there - (ie. anyone younger than me). There is still time to see some of the maestros at work. If at all possible get yourselves to Goodwood racetrack in September. Believe me, Moss, Surtees, Phill Hill et al. can still put on a good show. Witness Moss's fine fourth in the rain in the Maserati 250F last year. I've just been watching my video of the 1998 Revival Meeting and Moss's dice in the Aston Martin with Brundle's D type (and Willie Green's Ferrari) was fantastic. And he still waves as he passes lesser mortals. Gerry Marshall's drive (in monsoon conditions) in the Lotus Cortina was breathtaking - not to mention Grant Williams "no point in driving around a corner properly when you can take it sideways" in the Mk1 Jag were simply amazing. The crowd around me at Woodcote were whooping with delight each time either one of them came around. I've never been so happy to get soaked.
By the way, does anyone know what has happened to the official videos of the 1999 Goodwood Festival of Speed and the 1999 Circuit Revival meeting? They seem to be taking an inordinate length of time to be released. I was looking forward to getting either (or both) of them for my Christmas Stocking. In the end I had to be satisfied with "Drawing and Painting Racing Cars" by Michael Turner.

#15 Keith Steele

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Posted 25 January 2000 - 08:06

1-1-67 making me 33. My parents were at a New Years Eve party with the Hulman's hours before I was born in Terre Haute. I never stood a chance of breaking free of the racing bug.

#16 luisfelipetrigo

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Posted 25 January 2000 - 09:34

I am 48 . . . and love it.
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Dennis David ? ? ? I am two years older and my body is doing great (not that lots of women would agree) but I still pedal my bike for 100+km rides and compete (ok, ok,... participate) in triathlons.


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#17 Dennis David

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Posted 25 January 2000 - 11:52

Eric - How was the Turner book?

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#18 Statesidefan

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Posted 25 January 2000 - 12:40

35 going on 36. Feel like I'm 56 some days though. MX bikes have beat the Shi- out of me. Still in good shape for my age though.

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#19 Jonathan

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Posted 25 January 2000 - 15:02

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#20 Ian McKean

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Posted 25 January 2000 - 17:47

I'm 52. Try to keep fit, play squash about three times a week (apart from the last month when I haven't played at all), but I take my hat off to luisfelipetrigo competing in triathlons. You must be superfit.

I did enjoy Eric's description of some of the old maestros at work at Goodwood. Gerry Marshall has won 595 races apparently.

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#21 smarty

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Posted 25 January 2000 - 19:58

I am 31 but since I never got the chance of having a good media coverage in those years in my country, I lived as an ignorant man until the mids of 90's. I feel myself 17 in this place.

#22 Ray Bell

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Posted 25 January 2000 - 08:12

For a decade I've been finding that I'm the oldest in every conversation. So far it's here too! What can I do?

#23 Don Capps

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Posted 26 January 2000 - 04:05

Ray,

Try being an Army officer where some of the field grades on your staff are barely older than your daughter! Or work for general officers younger than you are....

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#24 Ray Bell

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Posted 26 January 2000 - 05:21

On the subject of daughters - I used to work with a fellow who took out a lot of younger women. Then one day I said to him that he'd soon be taking out women younger than his daughters. Did he laugh at that! Not possible! Then he rang me up some months later, and said: "You remember that you once said that I would date a woman younger than my daughters?" Guess what!

#25 Dennis David

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Posted 26 January 2000 - 06:06

Do like I did get older people to join the BB!

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#26 Eric McLoughlin

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Posted 26 January 2000 - 07:23

Dennis

The Turner book was pretty good. Having read it, one thing its NOT going to do is turn you into an artist of Turner's class. However, if you do like drawing or painting cars (or other things for that matter) there are lots of useful hints and tips on subjects like, perspective, vanishing points, eye lines, speed effects,reflections,
composition etc. Of course, there are lots of examples of his work illustrating these points and that is really the pleasure of the book. I used to draw racing cars as a teenager but now I find I don't either have the time or energy. Perhaps it will be one of the many things I'll take up when I retire.
I've been a fan of Turner since I bought his 1983 book "Formula One - the Cars and the Drivers". It cost me IR£12.74in 1983(the price sticker is still attached - my memory is not that good) and I saw an example for sale recently from a book dealer at Goodwood for £45! Needless to say, its one of my favourite motor sport books. This book also introduced me to the writings of Nigel Roebuck who is now my favourite motor sport writer, even if I don't always agree with his political views.

#27 Dennis David

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Posted 26 January 2000 - 09:50

What political views are you talking about? I don't like him interjecting political views into his articles especially about America and the President. It's one thing for somebody who lives here, another for an outsider.

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#28 Psychoman

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Posted 27 January 2000 - 08:59

15 here--making me the Dennis the Menace of this board; biedaway, this is not a peashooter in my hand :)

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#29 Incal

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Posted 27 January 2000 - 10:06

44 and a bit. Dennis why can't an outsider have political views on the USA when the USA does not keep its political views to itself?

#30 Dennis David

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Posted 27 January 2000 - 10:58

Oh sure they can! ;-) It just irks me sometimes when people just bash the US. I'm actually Dutch but have lived most of my life in the States. America has problems but so does everyplace else.

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#31 Dennis David

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Posted 27 January 2000 - 11:00

Hey I'm the Dennis the Menace on this board! ;-)

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#32 Incal

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Posted 27 January 2000 - 13:26

Point taken David, bashing is non-sensical and non-productive.

#33 Dennis David

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Posted 27 January 2000 - 15:31

Don't get me wrong I consider my own orientation more European than American but working here in Silicon Valley the economic oppurtunities can not be matched, plus I really like Americans except for their wearing their religious beliefs on there sleeves and their love affair with guns. As long as I can work in the US and travel to Europe I am happy though If I worked for an American company in Europe would be great also.

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#34 614david

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Posted 28 January 2000 - 00:35

I am older than one (so far) but younger than most.....16 :D

#35 Ray Bell

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Posted 28 January 2000 - 15:29

Well, got into F1 in the seventies, when maybe you were about 10, let's say 34 to 36.

But around where?
Did you like Canberra? Do the Mt Ainslie thing?

#36 Mobile_Chicane

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Posted 28 January 2000 - 22:13

21 (30.09.78)

Sorry Don for implying you were the oldest on the BB at the Paddock Club :)

#37 Eric McLoughlin

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Posted 29 January 2000 - 04:26

Don't get me wrong, I did'nt say that I disagreed with all of Nigel Roebuck's political views, only some of them. Generally, he is a bit "right wing" for me. I imagine he would love to see Mrs Thatcher back in office. However, his comments on standards of behaviour and the intrusion of "political correctness" into all walks of life (including Formula 1)I am wholly in agreement with. To be honest, I never really sensed any America (or American President) bashing in his columns. Have I missed something here? I think he finds a lot to admire in the US,and he certainly has said on many occasions that he would like to see the openess and approachability associated with CART and NASCAR drivers return to Formula 1.
Like a lot of good writers, he is not that great when it comes to speaking on TV. His speaking voice tends to be quite momotonous. He has narrated a video called "Grand Prix 500", made in 1990, which commemorated 40 years of the World Championship. He has also appeared on two special motor racing evenings run by Channel 4 in the UK ("Wheel Torque" in 1997 and "Stirling Moss Night" in 1998) as part of a round table discussion group. His contributions to the discussions were probably the least incisive (compared to Doug Nye, Richard Williams and even Alain De Cadanet - who is not a professional journalist). TV is obviously not his strong point.
However, his Fifth Column is always the first article I head for when I open my copy of Autopsport every week.

#38 Dennis David

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Posted 29 January 2000 - 05:28

There were a couple of columns when he refered to the Lewinsky matter that rubbed me the wrong way but he must lioke America because I think that's where he vacations quite often. I was just wondering what this was doing in a racing article, but your correct in your remarks about him, I too go to his article first. I'm surprised he wasn't better on TV but that is a different medium altogether.

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#39 Uncle Davy

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Posted 29 January 2000 - 21:49

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#40 Pascal

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Posted 30 January 2000 - 00:54

30 (and very soon 31)

#41 Felix Muelas

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Posted 30 January 2000 - 06:36

Nice topic...
That reminds me that, in 25 minutes I will become 41.
Yes, 30th January it's my birthday ! (again)


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#42 Nomad

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Posted 30 January 2000 - 10:30

I'm exactly half Ray's age!
Got into F1 very young (smart kid me!)

Ray: yep did Mt Ainsley !


#43 Tarnik

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Posted 30 January 2000 - 10:45

I'm hoping you won't think of me differently after this. My age is one reason I don't presume to know more than people here. I'm a little less than a month from 14 (2/25/86).

#44 Dennis David

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Posted 30 January 2000 - 11:38

Tarnik - Not at all I was 14 once I think????

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#45 Fast One

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Posted 30 January 2000 - 12:08

Tarnik--

I was 13 when I discovered Grand Prix racing. It's nice to know someone your age is interested. Welcome aboard.

#46 Ray Bell

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Posted 30 January 2000 - 17:28

I suppose I was a late starter. I went to my first race meeting at 16, had been reading about F1 since the start of that year. Most impressive things of that year:
SCG's lead photo in Belgian GP report; Jenks report on German GP.

#47 Marcel Schot

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Posted 30 January 2000 - 17:30

Whoops, I'm a bit late, but

Happy birthday Felix!

#48 Felix Muelas

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Posted 30 January 2000 - 18:23

Marcel
Thank you very much.
Not late at all, I still have more than 12 hours to enjoy this day !
:-)
Felix



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#49 RJ

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Posted 30 January 2000 - 21:03

I'll be 34 in October, which makes me ONE month older than Mika Salo!

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Posted 30 January 2000 - 23:41

Since it's not too late...

Happy Birthday Felix! :)