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#1 John-w

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 18:18

Hello,

today I get a Penske PC1 (1974) conversation kit in scale 1/20th, now the instruction manual is one page and so I will
ask this forum for detailed photos from the rear and front suspension.
Here some photos

All parts from the conversation kit
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Instruction manual
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Every photo or information is welcome, thanks.

John-w

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#2 B Squared

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 19:19

John - I took these two weeks ago in Watkins Glen, NY during the launch of Michael Argetsinger's new biography; Mark Donohue: Technical Excellence At Speed from David Bull Publishing. The car is maintained by Bernie King, George and Steve at Penske Restorations, so I believe that it should be quite accurate in every detail. Hope they help. Look forward to seeing the model as you get it completed.

edit: I notice that the car is done with the #28 livery from 1975, so there were development changes as the car ran in more races, so you will want to watch for those changes as you're doing the model in its early guise. These still may be of benefit to you.

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#3 macoran

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 19:52

PC1 as it was launched, I believe with the top rockers operating the coil/dampers.
In the post above the car is PC1/003 (1975) and has already been modified to pull rods.
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#4 B Squared

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 20:02

I'd totally forgotten that Penske debuted the car in that livery. Let me know if I should delete the posted photos as to avoid confusion for John and any other interested parties. Try to be helpful and ......

Brian

#5 red stick

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 20:11

I wouldn't dare. Until someone posts photos of the earlier model in more detail, yours are the gold standard.

#6 macoran

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 20:15

I'd totally forgotten that Penske debuted the car in that livery. Let me know if I should delete the posted photos as to avoid confusion for John and any other interested parties. Try to be helpful and ......

Brian


Leave them be is fine for me, John is old enough to distinquish the differences, as he has already scribbled the top rocker in his diagram.
On top of that, I am not sure the car raced in it's black coat !

Check out the front rockers on this shot John !
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#7 Bonde

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 09:18

Oi!

I miss your photos, B-Squared - where did they go? Can we get them back, please?

Actually Ferris' pretty PC1 had a sort of pullrod/rocker hybrid suspension in that the rocker pulled a bellcrank via. a short pull-rod. A similar system was used first on Bellamy's McLaren M19, and for a while on Cuppock's M23. It gave more installation options than a traditional rocker system, and made it easier to tweak the rate curve, but it was, of course, more complex. A true pullrod system has the advantage of less to no bending in the system - a rocker knows no other way...

#8 B Squared

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 12:28

Oi!

I miss your photos, B-Squared - where did they go? Can we get them back, please?


Bonde - I never deleted the photos, they appear on my screen. If you can't see them, I'm unsure of why.

Brian


#9 John-w

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 14:50

Hi all,

thanks for the excellent photos, now I have only one question:

has the 1974 car the same cooler configuration like the 1975 car?

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#10 B Squared

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 15:45

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partial photo by Transportation Research Center of Ohio from 1974 Watkins Glen Formula One Program

John - this is the best I could come up with in the quick. It may have changed from this shake down photo to the first race appearances, but it's definitely different that those I posted of the car in its 1975 configuration. Hope this of some help to you.

Brian

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 19:58

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A photo of the right front suspension of the Penske PC-1 at either Canada or Watkins Glen. Either way, more definitive than the one in my prior post.

Brian

#12 Obster

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 20:54

Please-make sure to post pictures of your model when completed!

#13 macoran

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 22:42

Please-make sure to post pictures of your model when completed!

You haven't seen John's website showing all the models he and his mates have built?