Formula 1 in the mid 1980s
Posted 15 October 2000 - 15:47
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Posted 18 October 2000 - 02:24
Having five or six drivers within a tenth of each other speedwise (instead of two), also managed to contribute to the entertainment factor.
I also thought those flames shooting out the back on overrun were pretty cool, now that I'm remembering...
Posted 18 October 2000 - 02:34
Posted 18 October 2000 - 08:39
were they the most powerful f1 cars that have ever raced??
Posted 18 October 2000 - 09:16
I heard a Paul Rosche quote to the effect that the last time he knew precisely how much Hp the BMW turbo F1 qualifying engine produced was somehwere around mid 1985. BMW motorsport's in-house dyno only could be run safely to 1350 Hp, and their qualifying engines were producing somewhat more than that!! I recall watching a race on TV in the mid 80's, which I think was the 1986 Austrian GP when Benetton/BMW dominated qualifying - Teo Fabi grabbed pole and Gerhard Berger was second on the grid. In the introduction prior to the race Murrary Walker remarked that the paddock was buzzing with rumours that Fabi's BMW qualifier was producing 1500 Hp!! All from a 1.5L 4 cylinder engine with a road car derived block. Those were the days....
Posted 18 October 2000 - 10:50
Posted 18 October 2000 - 11:26
I believe that for the Qualifying specials and later race engines they went to purpose cast blocks. These were still based on the road car moulds, but with additional reinforcing webs in a couple of critical areas, and a lot of "unneeded" metal taken out. There was a story (told by Gordon Murray in a recent tribute to Rosche in Car magazine) about Rosche going to the foundary after a spate of engine failures, producing a stick and tracing the extra web he wanted straight into the sand mould before they cast the next set of blocks!! To get the famous aging they then did something mysterious called "simulated road usage", which I understand was basically a lot of low temperature heating and cooling cycles and some pressure cycling (and the famous story about Rosche inviting his colleagues to urinate on a block).
I have a friend (now on the other side of the world from me, unfortunately) who had a quite interesting history of the BMW engine programme that was prepared by the company after Piquets championship winning year in 1983. It seems that the combination of Piquet (the irrepressable joker), Rosche (the hardy Bavarian), Gordon Murray and Bernie Ecclestone produced enough great stories during the Brabham/BMW years to dine out on for several lifetimes. Definitely the most charismatic engine programme of the turbo era!!
Posted 19 October 2000 - 00:00
Karl L.- since Nelson still hasn't delivered on his promise to write his own scandalous memoirs, there's material here aplenty, if you're interested...
Posted 23 October 2000 - 16:01
Seriously though, the 80s weren't always great - think of fuel conservation and all that rubbish...then again - 1986 - surely the greatest year ever - Senna, Prost, Mansell, Piquet, a young Berger, Rosberg...brilliant
Posted 26 October 2000 - 22:11