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#151 Ralf Pickel

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 10:56

Hans Heyer was the one especially noted for his Tyrolean (?) hat, wasn't he? - on one occasion it was reported that when running from a car in which he's crashed (Lancia Monte Carlo in the German G5 series, I think), he had replaced his crash helmet with said hat even before he'd reached the barriers.


Yes, Heyer and his hat, very famous at that time.
The incident was at Norisring, he climbed out but reached back for the hat - the end of the crash can be seen here : Norisring 1980 video

Unfortunately you cannot see him putting the hat on - he got cheering applause from everybody (I watched the race from Steintribüne).
Later half the field slid off on their slicks (also leaders Ertl/Capri and Stuck/BMW) when it started to rain - it never rained at the Norisring for years, there was always sun......

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Edited by Ralf Pickel, 17 June 2011 - 11:01.


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#152 2F-001

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 11:01

I guess those hats are something of a regional symbol aren't they. I think Stuck (Jr) was nominally Bavarian, but didn't he grow up in Austria? (I'm not sure what constitutes 'Tyrolean', either geographically or culturally.) Notwithstanding the fuss it created back then, I doubt anyone would pull a stunt like that now, would they?

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 11:10

Thanks for that link, Ralf, That was pretty big incident to emerge from and still be worried about your hat!
I wonder if there was actually another incident involving Heyer (or perhaps Ertl?) or whether the report I read at the time was a rather 'exaggerated' account of that one? I thought I had seen a clip of an incident more like my original description, but I did have a very fertile imagination as a youngster!

Those German G5 cars looked pretty spectacular, didn't they? I saw them race at Donington - the entry was a bit thin and the race was actually a bit dull (Klaus Ludwig's 1.7 Zakspeed Capri dominating the bigger class) but it was great to see and hear the cars.

Edited by 2F-001, 17 June 2011 - 11:13.


#154 Ralf Pickel

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 11:25

Tyrolean hat usually does mean that - a hat in Tyrolean style (=Austria).

Yeah - the old DRM ( Deutsche Rennsport Meisterschaft ) was phantastic, great sounding, flame spitting cars, different driver characters, even team rivalry (remember Georg Loos vs. Kremer brothers...).
I used to go to Norisring every year from ´73 (the sole F2 race there) until 2001, but modern DTM is boring......

#155 Bauble

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 11:35

I can't be bothered to trawl through all the entries so far, so apologies if I reprise previous incidents.

I seem to remember that a storm caused power lines to fall during practice for the Brazillian GP meeting some years ago and electrified the whole Press Centre. I expect a number of journo's were caught short(ed).

I also recall driving up to Silverstone (with Eric D) for a meeting only to be turned away at the gates due it being cancelled following the death of Diana.

Almost certainly mentioned before but Button stopping at the Red Bull pit is pretty bizarre.

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 11:46

I also recall driving up to Silverstone (with Eric D) for a meeting only to be turned away at the gates due it being cancelled following the death of Diana.

Mosley cancelled a meeting due to the death of his mother?? Surely not...?

Re. Hans Heyer - Somehow I'd always assumed he was Austrian, but in that vid clip his helmet is painted with the colours of the German flag... and my 'Highham' says he's from Mönchengladbach (which is a long way from the Tyrol).

#157 Eric Dunsdon

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 11:52

Mosley cancelled a meeting due to the death of his mother?? Surely not...?

Steady on!, Thats Princess Diana that we are talking of!. A Northamptonshire girl.

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 12:49

Those German G5 cars looked pretty spectacular, didn't they? I saw them race at Donington - the entry was a bit thin and the race was actually a bit dull (Klaus Ludwig's 1.7 Zakspeed Capri dominating the bigger class) but it was great to see and hear the cars.

Glad you mentioned the sound, was flagging at the post before the Old Hairpin, which meant that we couldn't see the cars until they popped over the top of the Craner Curves, but we managed to work out who was coming from the sound of the turbo wastgate openning, each car seemed different.

#159 Graham Clayton

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 22:44

And streakers In the 70s a Rowley Pk speedway competitor did a streak on a solo bike during a power blackout.



Lee,

On the 28th of December 28, 1975 the "Speedway Streaker" made his only appearance at the Sydney Showground. The "Speedway Streaker" rode out of the pits on a solo motorbike completely naked other than a full faced helmet and shoes. He did a quick lap of the circuit before laying the bike down on the infield. He was last seen jumping over the fence being chased by laughing policemen. Years later the streaker was revealed to be solo rider Reg McCarthy.



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#160 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 23:34

3 incidents I can remember involving man hole or drainage covers:

Montoya in China

The same thing happen in an Aussie V8 Supercar race, this time the drain cover came through the bottom of the car.

The worst one was in Montreal for the World Sports cars in 1990. A loose manhole cover burst the fuel tank on Jesus Pareja's Porsche causing a multiple accident. About 5 mins into this Japanese clip http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

The Supercars were on a made in China racetrack, and the drainage grid ripped the whole floor open on Mark Winterbottoms Falcon. Very narrowly advoiding doing any serious damage to Mark and just about destroying the car.
Someone mentioned a flywheel coming off a car. That has been a too common occurence. An AIR drag meeting and the [illegal] flywheel exploded on Terry Gaynons Falcon sending debry into the crowd, one lass was quite seriously injured. And at speedway a sedan that had the wrong diff gears was getting a big rev and the alloy flywheel exploded and just about cut the chassis in half, it cut the left side headers totally through.
I have seen wheels come off far too often too. My friends and I were sitting n the stands when a right rear came over the fence and bounced over us into the car park [over a 60' high stand] The driver afterwards assured us the wheel was done up tight, it was not as my mate had a wheel stud with nut still on it land on his lap, but you could see where the wheel had been chattering on it!
Wheels coming off cars have been a too comon occurence, And has caused quite a few fatalities worldwide, and it seems still is. And it is worse these days when they have half the suspension still attached. eg last years F1 debacle.

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 14:36

Here is my question to that: what is the insurance situation in a incident like this? Who will cover the damage on the car or the possible injuries of the driver?

I mean manhole covers not exploding flywheels.

Edited by Duc-Man, 18 June 2011 - 14:38.


#162 Kevan

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 17:02

You are right - it was Quester when I think about it. You are also right about the fuss it caused.

My wife confirms that Stuck also used to switch to a Tyrolean hat when he got out of the car or even as he came down the pit lane - she remembers seeing it from Race Control.


Yes, I always remember it being Quester. Think it was the Donington race in 1986.

#163 D-Type

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 19:23

His once-team mate, but not very close friend Alan Jones' win in the wet 1977 Austrian Grand Prix caused a problem for the organisers, with no copy of "Advance Australia Fair" to play : in the end, he's said a drunk played Happy Birthday on a trumpet... :)

Legend has it that when Pedro Rodriguez won the South African GP they didn't have a copy of the Mexican anthem so played "South of the Border" instead.



#164 smigel

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 22:30

The 1985 Monza 1000Km only reached ~800Km due to a tree being blown down and blocking the track.....

#165 Graham Clayton

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 22:32

Gilles Villeneuve driving on 2 wheels in the 1979 Dutch Grand Prix deserves a mention. His left rear tyre exploded midway through the Grand Prix, so he attempted to get back to the pits. With the left rear rim scraping on the track, the right front wheel was lifted off the track as well.

#166 Graham Clayton

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Posted 24 June 2011 - 07:00

Charlie Merz was involved in an unusual incident during the 1913 Indianapolis 500. To quote the "Meriden Morning Record", dated May 30, 1913:

Charles Merz, who finished third in a Stutz, brought the biggest thrill to the crowd estimated at 100,000, when he drove the last lap of the race with his car on fire. The flames broke out in the upper stretch turn and Merz refused to stop at the pits until he had circled the track another time and finished the race. Coming down the home stretch in the finish, Harry Martin, Merz's mechanician, climbed on the hood of the car and unbuckled the straps so the pit men could extinguish the flames immediately.


Edited by Graham Clayton, 24 June 2011 - 07:00.


#167 Graham Clayton

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 23:48

Steve O'Rourke was driving in the 1981 Le Mans 24 hour race in a BMW M1 with David Hobbs and Eddie Jordan. O'Rourke was also the manager of Pink Floyd, who were playing a concert in London on the same weekend. O'Rourke did an early driving stint, flew to London for the concert, returned to Le Mans the following morning and did another driving stint.

#168 Rob Semmeling

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Posted 08 July 2011 - 09:54

When it comes to bizarre... how about Jocko Flocko?

Btw, that Marcus Grönholm clip someone posted is absolutely priceless.. :rotfl:

#169 Graham Clayton

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 07:22

During the Labor Day holiday hillclimb at Pikes Peak on the 1st of September, 1952, spectators rolled off the course a 200 pound boulder rock just as Johnny Mantz was approaching, thus averting a possible nasty accident.

Source: Dubuque "Telegraph-Herald", September 2, 1952, page 11

#170 southcoast

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 16:55

ooh good - another excuse to post this :clap:


hahaha .. that's made my day :lol:


#171 RStock

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 17:09

How about this one, at around 1:00 in




#172 Graham Clayton

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Posted 01 August 2011 - 23:32

A spectator threw a drink cooler bag at the flag official on the main straight during the 2004 Pocono 500 NASCAR race at Pocono on the 13th of June 2004, in frustration at having over a quarter of the race (57 laps out of 200) being run under caution.

#173 LotusElise

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 08:50

Btw, that Marcus Grönholm clip someone posted is absolutely priceless.. :rotfl:


I'm going to see if I can find one of Marcus arguing with a Welsh traffic policeman about whether or not he was allowed to drive his 3-wheeled Peugeot back to the service area. It was another classic.

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 11:16

3 incidents I can remember involving man hole or drainage covers:

One more: Bernd Mayländer hitting a manhole cover. DTM in Shanghai.




Isn't an Ocelot a wild cat about the size of a large moggy?

Do you know to titillate an ocelot? Oscillate its tit a lot.

Edited by chdphd, 02 August 2011 - 11:18.


#175 southcoast

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 22:40

This is quite bizarre. The start of the Le Mans series 2011. The lights go green but the pace car is still on track


Edited by southcoast, 02 August 2011 - 22:40.


#176 gtsmunro

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 00:07

How about this one, at around 1:00 in

:rotfl:


#177 Tony Matthews

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 06:26

Do you know to titillate an ocelot? Oscillate its tit a lot.

Easy, Tiger!

#178 Graham Clayton

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 12:09

Federal agents raided the Middle Georgia Raceway in Macon, Georgia prior to the running of the 500 lap NASCAR Middle Georgia 500 on the 12th of November 1967, acting on advice from a tip-off.

Under the ticket booth the agents found a hidden trap-door, concealing a ladder down into a tunnel. The 150 foot passage lead to a chamber directly under the circuit's infield - in that chamber was a huge and elaborate still.

"Speedway: Auto Racing's Ghost Tracks" by S. S. Collins, Gavin D. Ireland, Veloce Publishing Ltd, 2010, page 125.

#179 Graham Clayton

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 02:39

Why did the chicken cross the road?



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#180 Tim Murray

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 11:20

I've done a search and can't find a previous mention of this, but apologies if it's already been covered. From the Motoring News report on the 1991 Phoenix GP:

Prequalifying had barely begun on Friday morning when Eric van de Poele had an extraordinary experience. Rounding one corner he discovered a man lying prostrate on the course. The individual had hobbled on to the track on crutches, thrown them away, and then laid down in an apparent attempt to commit suicide. How he got through security at an event in which many media representatives had trouble gaining entry was never satisfactorily explained, but eventually he was carted away and is hopefully still wearing his strait jacket in the local sanatorium.



#181 RonPohl

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 18:20

In 1963 or 64, shortly before the start of the Los Angeles Times Grand Prix (a pre-Can-Am sports car race) at riverside raceway in California, a helicopter crashed at the start finish line. I don't think anyone was seriously hurt but needless to say, the race was delayed.

#182 RStock

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 18:43

I was at a World of Outlaws race one night when suddenly the lights went out. Lucky their were no cars on track at the time. We sat around in the dark for an hour or so before we all gave up and went home.

#183 Frank S

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 22:46

In 1963 or 64, shortly before the start of the Los Angeles Times Grand Prix (a pre-Can-Am sports car race) at riverside raceway in California, a helicopter crashed at the start finish line. I don't think anyone was seriously hurt but needless to say, the race was delayed.

Just a helicopter crash would be unusual; the sort-of-a-joke was that the whirly-bird was in the employ of race organizers who thought it would be an efficient means of cleaning off surplus dry-sweep applied to engine contents spilled in the entrance to Turn One. The chopper got tangled in an overhead communications line and dropped to the track. Bitter butter made the better butter bitter. Or summat.

Now I remember the Riverside CanAm incident that was on the tip of my brain: was it 1969 when one of the revelers left over from a Saturday night concert at Turn Six disrobed and climbed over the fence between Six and Seven, and was trudging south while the field was already engine-started? There was a slight delay while the massive posse of volunteers corralled and covered her, and the event started almost on time.

Edited by Frank S, 11 January 2012 - 22:52.


#184 Amphicar

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 23:19

Felipe Massa's problem with the fuel hose during the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix was pretty bizarre: http://www.formula1n...-stop-incident/

Then there was Jenson Button parking in the wrong place after winning the 2009 Monaco Grand Prix and having to sprint to the Royal Box to receive the trophy:

#185 elansprint72

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 23:38

Felipe Massa's problem with the fuel hose during the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix was pretty bizarre: http://www.formula1n...-stop-incident/

Then there was Jenson Button parking in the wrong place after winning the 2009 Monaco Grand Prix and having to sprint to the Royal Box to receive the trophy:


Oh. la la la la lah.......... France, eh? :smoking:



#186 Ray Bell

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 02:21

Originally posted by GD66
.....Alan Jones' win in the wet 1977 Austrian Grand Prix caused a problem for the organisers, with no copy of "Advance Australia Fair" to play: in the end, he's said a drunk played Happy Birthday on a trumpet...


I wonder what really happened there...

Does anyone really believe this rather fanciful story? A drunk? A trumpet?

I also wonder why they have to play anthems, what do we need them for?

And on the subject of the car that got onto the track at Oran Park, lyntonh has posted a picture of it elsewhere:

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Having seen the picture, I came to the conclusion that it might have been a stunt by Chrysler, but on re-reading the Racing Car News report it comes into perspective to some extent:

In lap 41 there occurred one of the most incredible incidents ever seen in motor racing. With Jane looking more and more like a champion, and Moffat out to spoil that image, another car suddenly appeared on the track. It was an ordinary road-going Valiant Pacer, doing about 40 mph, driven by a hatless, beltless, cigarette-smoking dare-devil who for some fantastic reason had decided that here was his chance to be a star!

He had borrowed the car from the pit area, been turned back from one track entrance, driven to the pit apron and thence onto the track past three incredulous policement. Down the straight and through the esses he went, then round Suttons, just as Moffat arrived on the scene. Fortunately the "Lone Stranger" kept hard to the left and Moffat just squeezed between him and Fanning's Escort. It was so close!

Then the Pacer racer hit the Shell dogleg, nearly lost it, scrambled through BP and decided he'd had enough, pulling up at the Rothmans Tower to be greeted by an almost hysterical Allan Horsley, who hauled him out bodily and flung into the arms of a nearby cop!

Moffat said later he didn't even see the Pacer, and we can believe it, for the next five laps were "out of sight"! The times tumbled...


This occurred on August 8, 1971 right in the closing stages of one of the most frantic races ever seen. It was a 'winner take all' situation for the title, Moffat on 31 points, Jane on 34 with 9-6-4-3-2-1 the pointscore. Moffat had pole position, got fastest lap in the race, Jane beat him home by six tenths of a second.

Anyway, it's good that Lynton got a photo of it and has published it!

#187 David McKinney

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 06:40

There was a slight delay while the massive posse of volunteers corralled and covered her.

...in the stock-breeding sense? :smoking:



#188 Ray Bell

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 06:50

Back to your sheep, David...

Back to your sheep!

#189 wrighty

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 13:08

helicopter related....i seem to remember David Richards' (Prodrive) own whirlybird being damaged by an errant wheel at Croft during a BTCC meeting? Must've been 1997 or 1998 when they were in charge of Honda's effort....the wheel came off a Renault Spider i think? at the top end of the circuit and punched its way through the door of the helicopter, thus rendering it grounded until correct repairs could be made.....and obviously because Mr. Richards wasn't exactly familiar with how warm and friendly us northerners are, expected (i heard it was 'demanded' but i'll give him the benefit of the doubt) that a security guard would stay with his chopper 24/7 until a new door and parts could be supplied and fitted.....


#190 Tony Kaye

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 03:14

I was at Monza for the Italian Grand Prix. Many of the spectators came on motorbikes and in previous years some of the bikes had been stolen while their owners were in the grandstands. In 1959 spectators were able to leave their bikes in the safety of an 18-wheeler for a nominal extra fee. You guessed it – when they returned after the GP, all 18 wheels had disappeared plus the fee payers’ two wheels.

#191 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 08:27

I was at a World of Outlaws race one night when suddenly the lights went out. Lucky their were no cars on track at the time. We sat around in the dark for an hour or so before we all gave up and went home.

At Rowley Pk Speedway one night in the 70s during the streaking craze a unnamed solo rider did a streak,, on his bike with the lights out.

#192 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 08:31

Or same venue, in a 3 lap solo race a rider dropped his bike in turn two,, but it picked itself up with the throttle jammed open and proceeded infield where it buried itself into the side of the Holden ambulance at probably 40mph.. Again early 70s. Throttle kill switches became mandatory soon after

#193 larryd

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 08:31

I was at Monza for the Italian Grand Prix. Many of the spectators came on motorbikes and in previous years some of the bikes had been stolen while their owners were in the grandstands. In 1959 spectators were able to leave their bikes in the safety of an 18-wheeler for a nominal extra fee. You guessed it – when they returned after the GP, all 18 wheels had disappeared plus the fee payers’ two wheels.


All the wheels ?

You sure it wasn't Aintree??

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#194 king_crud

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 16:27

I'm surprised there's been no mention of Dick Johnson and "The Rock"

http://www.motorspor...-the-rock-1980/

#195 petestenning

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 19:22

I may have mentioned this before but in National Formula Ford race at Snetterton i was observer at Coram when a Formula Ford slowed and drove straight at the tyre wall stopping in front of it without hitting anything. Said driver jumps out unaided and hops up onto the bank , then i hear shouts of pain coming from the driver so call the rescue unit as one would .
Driver is attended and then escorted to the ambulance and away .

I rang to find out the drivers condition to be told all he had was Cramp :lol: :eek:

#196 Thundersport

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 21:43

I never caused a red flag incident when racing however.....................During a Truck meeting at Brands 20 odd years ago during qualifying I absent mindedly walked in to a restricted area. :blush:

#197 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 08:03

I'm surprised there's been no mention of Dick Johnson and "The Rock"

http://www.motorspor...-the-rock-1980/

The incident that probably kept Dick in the sport as long as he has been. A struggling privateer who is taken out of the lead at Bathurst by the bizare incident. The support made him far more viable in the sport. Being a decent operator obviously helped.

#198 Ray Bell

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 10:03

I suppose we should include this one...

At Warwick Farm on September 3, 1972, Frank Matich took over the running of the race meeting. What happened was that he had the right front brake lock on as he entered the esses on the warm up lap. Obviously everything he tried between there and the start line failed, so he parked the car on pole position and his crew removed the right front corner then and there!

I don't recall how long it took, maybe ten minutes or so, but the race was under starter's orders and here they were simply changing the upright and all while the other drivers seethed about it all in their grid positions. Most angry about it was undoubtedly Max Stewart, who'd been on the front row with Matich in the first race but got punted off the track as Matich went from second to third gear off the line and let it slide in Max's direction. He now sat at the back of the grid for this second race.

Clerk of Course David Bones was fined for letting it happen, which was probably the strangest part of the whole deal!

Matich had made a habit of taking over proceedings on the grid. He hammered the line, "If I get fastest lap in practice then it's up to me to choose my starting position!"

Does anyone remember the two incidents that came under this umbrella?

#199 king_crud

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 10:33

The incident that probably kept Dick in the sport as long as he has been. A struggling privateer who is taken out of the lead at Bathurst by the bizare incident. The support made him far more viable in the sport. Being a decent operator obviously helped.


Plus he became the great Ford hope after Moffat had left

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#200 Ray Bell

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:47

Moffat hadn't actually left at that stage...

He shared an XD in that very race with John Fitzpatrick. Uhh? 3 laps? Well, he might as well have left!