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#251 Graham Clayton

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 21:32

During the running of the Nassau Trophy during the 1957 Speed Week meeting, Gene Greenspun pulled into the pits to have his Ferrari's right rear tyre checked. His pit crew sent him back out, but the tyre blew apart on the next lap. He crawled into the pits, and then discovered that the spare tyre in the boot was a 550 x 16, which was not the same size as the tyres on his car, which were 710 x 16s. After having the tyre fitted and being told to do one lap before pitting again, Greenspun was told by his pit crew that someone had given Greenspun's spare tyre to another competitor, thinking that Greenspun's car would not last long enough in the race to need a tire change! After changing all of the tyres to 550 x 16s, he eventually finished 15th.



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#252 kento11

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 23:08

I can't believe no one mentioned Kimi and his wrong turn in Brazil, I know not nostalgia but rather bizarre.

#253 Graham Clayton

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:41

When Tiny Lund got out of his burning car after an accident during the 1963 Nashville 400 NASCAR race, he stumbled down the banking of the Nashville Speedway and collided with Cale Yarborough's car, leaving a huge dent in the right front passenger door! Amazingly Lund did not receive any injuries from the collision.

#254 PCC

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 12:56

There was the episode at Gimli in Canada when an aircraft crash landed during a race meeting.

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According to this article, the plane that slithered to a stop at Gimli is now for sale. I'm not sure they have the details of the race meet correct, but it's still a great story - the photo alone is jaw-dropping!

#255 alansart

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 16:25

John Swift had a slightly bizarre accident at Oulton last weekend. The exhaust on his Van Dieman RF80 broke at Lodge and a section fell off at Old Hall which punctured a tyre and pitched John off the circuit, fortunately without further damage.

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#256 ExFlagMan

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 10:33

I can recall a bizarre phone call from Race Control whilst marshalling at Donington Park for a VSCC meeting many years ago, asking us if we had found a pair of trousers on the circuit, and if we had could we hand them in to the course car at the end of the next practice session. No other details where forthcoming, so at lunch time I asked my wife, who was on RC phones at that meeting what it was all about.
Turned out one of the drivers had changed into his race overalls and stuffed his trousers under the tonneau cover of his open two seater before going out to practice. On returning to the paddock and wanting to change back he discovered they were missing, having been sucked out. He was naturally somwhat perturbed as his wallet and expensive watch where in the pockets. Luckily for him they where found intact.

#257 Tony Matthews

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 15:09

I can't believe no one mentioned Kimi and his wrong turn in Brazil, I know not nostalgia but rather bizarre.

Bizarre and very funny! Thanks for reminding me...

#258 Tony Matthews

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 15:17

Not really bizarre, but memorable. I was taken to a VSCC meeting at Silverstone when I was about 16, and was standing on the inside at Woodcote diring a race, possibly a handicap, in which a large Edwaedian beast was taking part. On one lap as it passed me - a few yards away - there was a loud bang and a shower of smoking debris, one small piece of which landed in my hair and started to scorch my scalp. I dragged it out and threw in on the grass. A piece of clutch friction plate...

#259 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 15:19

Was that when you discovered your talent for drawing?

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#260 Tony Matthews

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 15:35

No, that was a bit earlier.

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#261 alansart

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 16:01

No, that was a bit earlier.

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No doubt more hair then as well :)


#262 Tony Matthews

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 16:04

No doubt more hair then as well :)

Cheeky! It seems to have migrated from my bonce to my chest and, er, other places. It's also worn out a few headboards...

#263 Graham Clayton

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 05:03

Just prior to the start of the 1977 German Grand Prix at Hockenheim, all of the cars on the grid had their front bulkhead and rear rollover bar checked by race officials to ensure that the driver's head did not exceed the height of the rollbar (plus a straight line from the rollbar to the front bulkhead).

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 07:24

Just prior to the start of the 1977 German Grand Prix at Hockenheim, all of the cars on the grid had their front bulkhead and rear rollover bar checked by race officials to ensure that the driver's head did not exceed the height of the rollbar (plus a straight line from the rollbar to the front bulkhead).

Sounds a sensible time to check it - no chance for trickery like taking out seat padding to ensure driver conforms - it was not that long after Tom Pryce's accident after all and everyone was a bit jumpy. I can remember being asked to look out for and report in drivers who's head appearded from trackside to be protruding too much. A surprising no of lower formulae cars started sprouting roll bar extensions around that time.

#265 Ray Bell

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 13:18

I would certainly reckon that to be bizarre if it was in response to Tom Pryce's death...

The purpose of the head not protruding from the line between the rollbar and the bulkhead is clear enough, but it would do nothing to interfere with the progress of an errant fire extinguisher carried by a track-crossing marshal.

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 14:43

I would certainly reckon that to be bizarre if it was in response to Tom Pryce's death...

The purpose of the head not protruding from the line between the rollbar and the bulkhead is clear enough, but it would do nothing to interfere with the progress of an errant fire extinguisher carried by a track-crossing marshal.

True, but people get jumpy when that sort of thing happens and 'have to be seen to be doing something', even if it is not really that appropriate.
It's like the reaction after Roger Williamsons accident - suggestions of fire extingusher backpacks for marshals and aircraft spec full immersion fire suits etc, rather than making sure drivers knew how to use an extingisher properly.

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 14:50

True, but people get jumpy when that sort of thing happens and 'have to be seen to be doing something', even if it is not really that appropriate.
It's like the reaction after Roger Williamsons accident - suggestions of fire extingusher backpacks for marshals and aircraft spec full immersion fire suits etc, rather than making sure drivers knew how to use an extingisher properly.


Yes, but ... surely the idea is that fire marshalls - not drivers - should put out the fire.

I agree it would help the marshalls if the drivers did know how to operate the extinguisher. Particularly as, at the time in question, the drivers had fireproof* overalls while this was not necessarily true of the marhalls.

* relatively speaking



#268 ExFlagMan

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 15:05

Yes, but ... surely the idea is that fire marshalls - not drivers - should put out the fire.

True -but if a driver decides to take over the process it helps if he can use the extinguisher.

I agree it would help the marshalls if the drivers did know how to operate the extinguisher. Particularly as, at the time in question, the drivers had fireproof* overalls while this was not necessarily true of the marhalls.

* relatively speaking

And still isn't - the best they have are only treated with a 'flame retardent' solution which might help stop them bursting into flames but little else.

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 16:33

Just prior to the start of the 1977 German Grand Prix at Hockenheim, all of the cars on the grid had their front bulkhead and rear rollover bar checked by race officials to ensure that the driver's head did not exceed the height of the rollbar (plus a straight line from the rollbar to the front bulkhead).

Certainly worth checking - a few races after this Patrick Tambay had his much-publicised shunt practising for the Italian GP. A wheel came off as he was exiting the first Lesmo and the car ended up upside down skating along on the roll bar for over 100 yards. The roll bar did its job, and Patrick emerged with just a scratch on his crash helmet.

Talking about bizarre incidents, that German GP was the race where, prior to the start, a breakdown truck had damaged the lights on the starting gantry, so the start was given by the drop of a flag. Unfortunately no-one had told Depailler, who sat waiting for the green light while the cars behind took avoiding action, leading to the inevitable accident.

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 18:00

And still isn't - the best they have are only treated with a 'flame retardent' solution which might help stop them bursting into flames but little else.


Back in the 70's drivers donated their used overalls for Fire Marshals to use. I had a set given to me. Things have changed since then and I think it's generally thought that Marshals don't need that level of protection. Safety cars can get to the scene of an accident so quickly these days that any trapped driver can be dealt with by them alongside the trackside Marshals.

The recent Ginetta fire at Oulton does raise an issue regarding fuel pumps. The driver didn't switch off the ignition when he bailed out so the fire was being pumped full of fuel as the Marshals tried to put it out. The cutout switch was in the middle of the fire so they couldn't switch it off.


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 18:53

The recent Ginetta fire at Oulton does raise an issue regarding fuel pumps. The driver didn't switch off the ignition when he bailed out so the fire was being pumped full of fuel as the Marshals tried to put it out. The cutout switch was in the middle of the fire so they couldn't switch it off.

And would it work if they could reach it? I remember assisting the scrutineer at a rally, where he asked us to check the cutouts worked on each car before it entered the scrutineering bay proper. At least half were either seized up or simply didn't work at all.

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 19:36

I was fiddling with my Ginetta a couple of days ago and found that neither the ignition switch nor the master switch would stop it... :confused:

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 00:31

I was fiddling with my Ginetta a couple of days ago and found that neither the ignition switch nor the master switch would stop it... :confused:

Is it still running or did it finally run out of gas??? :cool:

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 08:14

Pulling a couple of plug leads off did the trick. Normal service has been resumed, although the root cause remains a mystery. :well:

#275 Graham Clayton

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 23:14

The night before the 1965 Le Mans 24 hours, the crew of the Bob Bondurant/Umberto Maglioli GT40 entered by Rob Walker were making their final checks of the car. A Ford official turns up at the pit with a new engine. Team boss John Ohlsen said that he was confident that the engine already in the car was strong and would complete the 24 hours, and that a new engine was not required. The Ford official then orders Ohlsen to change the engine. The car only lasted 3 hours in the race before the replacement engine blew up.

Does anyone have more details about this unusual incident?

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 17:22

Todays Indycar Practice was stopped because of............ducks!!!!

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/107795

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 22:44

Todays Indycar Practice was stopped because of............ducks!!!!

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/107795


Good thing they've never considered holding any sort of motor race in Hemel Hempstead ( Westbrooke Hay aside ) since the ducks round here seem to think they have absolute priority where the roads are concerned, particularly near the Magic Roundabout :lol:

#278 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 23:07

I recall a special stage on a rally we did on Thorney Island (Hampshire, UK) where there was a bend after the flying finish. On our second run, my driver had noticed there was smooth grass straight on so took the flying finish flat out and ran off onto the grass. There was some consternation amongst the marshals and officials but it was quite legal, as long as we made it back the stop control.


We had a similar incident at a sprint meeting at (pre-Revival restoration) Goodwood. There was a turbo charged Morgan which shed its flywheel as it passed the pits. The thing bounced off the track, soared over the heads of spectators and lodged above the windscreen of a campervan. Really scary stuff!

This was the same Morgan that had a blind gentleman as mechanic. He was led up to me (I was Clerk of the Course) to complain that another car had hit the chicane and that we had rebuilt it so that it was tighter, disadvantaging his driver. How do you argue that with a blind man???

In the 90s a Commodore Speedway Super Sedan had the alloy flywheel explode. It cut the left side headers in half and just about went through the chassis rail too. Burying shrapnel into the track too. The car was undergeared to blazes and was having a big rev.

In the 80s a quick Falcon GT at the drags exploded the [illegal cast iron] flywheel big time and shrapnel went everywhere. A large piece hit a girl in the crowd with fairly serious injurys

Speedway again, a Torana Supersedan lost a right rear wheel, luckily the fence caught the wheel but my mate had one of the broken stud and nut land on his lap probably 80 feet away. The wheel had not been done up properly hence the failure though the competitor still maintains it was. But he is an accountant!

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 00:30

Can't remember if I've mentioned this before. Ken Brigden [Peugeot 403] and Paul Bolton [Hillman Minx] were side-by-side on the grid at Warwick Farm....early '60s.

The 403 had a big rev at the start, and the flywheel exploded. A big chunk of flywheel smashed through the drivers front 1/4 window of the Hillman, flew past Paul's nose, hit the left side centre pillar, and generally bounced about inside the Hillman. The interior of the car looked like a Tasmanian Tiger had been locked inside. :eek:

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#280 Graham Clayton

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 03:15

During the night session of the 1967 Le Mans 24 hours, Dan Gurney had been running slower to preserve his GT40 MkIV, when Mike Parkes came up behind in the second-place Ferrari 330 P4. For several miles Parkes hounded the Ford driver by flashing his passing lights in Gurney's mirrors until an exasperated Gurney simply pulled off the course at Arnage corner and stopped on a grassy verge. Parkes stopped behind him, and the two leading cars in the race sat there in the dark, motionless, until Parkes finally realized this attempt at provocation was not going to work. After a few moments, he pulled around Gurney and resumed the race, with Gurney following shortly afterwards.

#281 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 00:11

Pulling a couple of plug leads off did the trick. Normal service has been resumed, although the root cause remains a mystery. :well:

If it has a charging system there will need to be a diode fitted to the charging circuit. And the wiring suitably arranged to suit.
Otherwise the car will run forever on the alternator. Though someone I know had the diode fail and the car continued to run anyway. Luckily in the pits when he turned the car off with the switch. That is one of the many reasons I hate charging systems on racecars. They cause more hassle than any other electrical device. Any non efi car [though again for short races they still run ok] will run perfectly well without for short races. With a decent quality battery I always got a 2 day meeting from a battery. 40 plus laps of racing, going to scruitinering, all the usual stuff.
Night races though were interesting as the lack of amperage really did nothing for the headlights. Though 2x 10 lappers were still ok on battery life. Though the track lighting was really all you needed, the headlights were so other cars could see you.

#282 Graham Clayton

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 12:07

During the CRC-300 endurance race at Amaroo Park in 1982, the Allan Grice/Allan Browne Holden Commodore had the fire extinguisher explode, filling the interior with white foam.



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Posted 26 September 2013 - 22:53

Ok, so a few off track, and no, I can't remember the years....

 

Hannu Mikkola sending his co driver to sit in the boot of a Quattro to balance the car as a wheel had come off.....and finishing the stage!

 

Martin Schanche getting the hump when he felt Gollop pushed him off the track in a European Rallycross round......and waiting for the second lap where he proceeded to run out in front of all the cars and stopped the race.

 

Schanche again, and I was at this one. Standing in the middle of Druids at Brands when he piles into the back of Per Eklunds Subaru which promptly erupts into a fireball. Can remember vividly how hot it felt. Schanche claimed his foot slipped off the brake. Telemetry suggested he was accelerating at something ridiculous like 1.5g (can't remember exactly) in the braking zone to Druids!



#284 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 07:32

Ok, so a few off track, and no, I can't remember the years....
 
Hannu Mikkola sending his co driver to sit in the boot of a Quattro to balance the car as a wheel had come off.....and finishing the stage!
 
Martin Schanche getting the hump when he felt Gollop pushed him off the track in a European Rallycross round......and waiting for the second lap where he proceeded to run out in front of all the cars and stopped the race.
 
Schanche again, and I was at this one. Standing in the middle of Druids at Brands when he piles into the back of Per Eklunds Subaru which promptly erupts into a fireball. Can remember vividly how hot it felt. Schanche claimed his foot slipped off the brake. Telemetry suggested he was accelerating at something ridiculous like 1.5g (can't remember exactly) in the braking zone to Druids!

Rallyists and off roaders have used the navigator as ballast to balance their tricycles for decades. Though even more frowned upon now that F1 drivers giving their mates a ride back to the pits. At a Waikerie offroad event I saw 3 come back like that in one day.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 08:00

There was a Grand Prix that Maldonado won.  Bizarre.



#286 Jimisgod

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 13:42

There was a Grand Prix that Maldonado won.  Bizarre.

 

Not really, he looked like a podium getter in Valencia and Singapore that year.



#287 Graham Clayton

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 04:59

When Bobby Grimm retired from the 1959 Indianapolis 500 on lap 85 due to magneto problems, he dislocated his shoulder when raising his arm to let other drivers know that he was slowing down.



#288 Graham Clayton

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 02:01

Cale Yarborough wanted to drive in the 1957 Southern at Darlington, but NASCAR rules stated that a driver had to be 21 years old (Yarborough was only 17).

 

Yarborough had a friend make a fake birth certificate, (stating his age as 21), sent it to NASCAR in order to obtain a license. NASCAR sent Yarborough his license, and Cale competed in qualifying for the race. However, following qualifying, NASCAR became suspicious and eventually Cale was found out. Car owner Bob Weatherly took his place behind the wheel of the #30 Pontiac.

 

When race day came, Cale snuck in early though a hole in the fence which he used to sneak into the speedway grounds to watch races during his childhood, then apparently hid under the floorboards of the car  until just before the command to start engines. Cale then shooed Bob out of the car, and started the race when the green flag dropped.
When NASCAR officials found Weatherly, who was supposed to be in the car, standing in the garage, they immediately became suspicious (yet again) and demanded to know who was piloting the car. Yarborough would have been disqualifed, but the car retired on lap 31 with wheel problems.


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#289 Graham Clayton

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 02:07

During the running of the 2007 Rally of Yorkshire, David Higgins came across a JCB digger/tractor coming towards him on the seven mile Gale Rigg stage. Luckily, Higgins was able to swerve and avoid the JCB, whose driver had managed to avoid rally officials and get onto the stage, driving in the reverse direction to the competing cars.



#290 Andrew Fellowes

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 05:47

Maybe nearly 5 years later, but here at last in reply to the very first post!

 

a certain Mr Dennis, Hannelore Werner, Graham Hill and extreme right Peter Westbury.

 

Copyright Steve Jupp.

Spring Bank Holiday F2 Crystal Palace May 1971

I was reminded of this by Colin Bennett’s mention at a recent Northern TNF gathering in Cheshire of what he regarded as one of Emerson Fittipaldi best races with Emerson winning this race on a (mostly) three-cylinder Lotus 69. I can still remember the sound now. For practice (on the Saturday) and race day, I was marshalling at South Tower which is before the main start/finish straight. This incident relates to the Saturday. Practice had gone well but I think that it was the second session (again!) that was interrupted by water suddenly appearing on the track (on a sunny and warm London day) and trickling at an increasing rate back down the hill (Maxim’s Rise – named after the site where Sir Hiram had experimented with his steam-powered aeroplane). This meant that as the cars approached us at speed they could be in a bit of bother. I noticed the bubbling water next the track – it was a broken water main believed to be from the original Crystal Palace building (moved to Sydenham Hill from Hyde Park following the Great Exhibition of 1851) that burst just at the wrong moment - and alerted the Observer who then ‘phoned Race Control. Again, flags were hung out hurriedly including the yellow/red slippery surface one of course. First car through was Graham Hill in the Rondel Brabham BT36 and he promptly spun and continued. To our amazement, and before Race Control could stop the session, Graham continued around for a second lap and spun again! Very unfortunately, he got collected by Hannelore Werner in the Eifelland March 712M and received a very nasty bang on the head. I was also marshalling at Brands on the Sunday and Graham was driving a Ford Capri in the “celebrity race”, still suffering I think from the Saturday incident. I always meant to ask him why he had done another lap after having spun the first time but I thought better of it as he was clearly in some discomfort. The incident was reported in the following edition of Autosport and there’s even a picture of me looking at London’s newest river! :)

Hopefully, someone else may recall these incidents. I am sure there are many more such stories out there.

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 02:30

this took place between events at nassau speed weeks 1964, original report with photos of the wounded corvette grand sport, appeared in the march 1965 issue of sports car graphic magazine. cannot seem to attach photos or scans with my old mac !

         "the crews for dan gerber's cobra and saunder's freshly repaired GS sting ray arrived at the hanger to find carnage. the engine in dan's car was making very sick noises and the tell-tale on the tach showed that it had been twisted to 8,000 rpm sometime during the night. what had happened to the GS was more obvious, much more obvious. bits and pieces of the aluminium block, the crank and rods were scattered all over the floor in a manner more familiar to habitues of bonneville than of a road course. so strong was the force of the blow-up that chips had been gouged in the hanger floor. the culprit was found, after fingerprint checks, to have been a native type hired by gerber to watch the equipment. wanting to hear what kind of noise the machinery made, he had fired them up and buried his foot in the throttle with the engines dead cold. he became most indignant when his request for payment for his guarding services was was refused as he was led off to sample the hospitality of her majesty's prison"

 

 

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#292 Michael Ferner

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 16:44

SAN J O S E , Calif., Aug. 1 (A. P.).

Robert Jensen, 22, wins the hard

way. In a ten-lap race Jensen's

automobile skiddel and tossed him

out and over the finish line and

then bounced over the recumbent

driver. Neither car nor driver suffered

serious damage.

 

(1938)



#293 Glengavel

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 12:37

1970 United States GP - Graham Hill's Lotus 72 had a leaky fuel pipe that resulted in him being soaked with fuel. After pitting to have it fixed he resumed racing, only to come back in to change his overalls as the fuel was burning his skin. No overalls being forthcoming, he spied John Surtees sitting nearby and relieved him of his!

 

Apocryphal?



#294 Tim Murray

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 12:54

The story certainly features in the Autosport race report by David Phipps, but says only that Hill 'borrowed some overalls' from Surtees, so it's not clear whether they were actually the ones John was wearing.

#295 Allan Lupton

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 13:50

Motor Sport tells us Rob Walker arranged the swap and, as NGH insisted on underware as well, they had two World Champions stripping stark naked.



#296 Glengavel

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 22:04

Motor Sport tells us Rob Walker arranged the swap and, as NGH insisted on underware as well, they had two World Champions stripping stark naked.

 

I wonder what sort of deal was negotiated?!



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Posted 27 May 2014 - 15:10

At Monaco in 1967, Bruce McLaren brought his McLaren-BRM into the pits with a badly misfiring engine. The crew diagnosed fuel flow and were checking this when a voice form the pits shouted "Its your battery". The pit visitor was Jack Brabham and as Bruce said. "Good old Jack. It was the battery and we whipped another one in" (this from Eoin Young's McLaren Memories).

Bruce rejoined to finish 4th, just missing an all Kiwi podium.

 

My first thought was what was the current WC doing in a competitor's pit and why was he not on track. Jack had suffered engine failure on lap1, and since Hulme had the race in hand, just wandered into the McLaren pit. An indication of how a sporting attitude prevailed in F1 in general, and Jack Brabham in particular in those times. Things were somewhat different then.


Edited by D28, 27 May 2014 - 15:12.


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Posted 27 May 2014 - 22:17

<< ... Bruce rejoined to finish 4th, just missing an all Kiwi podium ... >>

 

I don't think that quite adds up, does it? If McLaren had continued, uninterrupted, to second place, I think Hill would have been third since Amon was also delayed by a pit-stop - (unless better luck for one Kiwi could somehow create the same for another!).

 



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Posted 27 May 2014 - 23:07

 

<< ... Bruce rejoined to finish 4th, just missing an all Kiwi podium ... >>

 

I don't think that quite adds up, does it? If McLaren had continued, uninterrupted, to second place, I think Hill would have been third since Amon was also delayed by a pit-stop - (unless better luck for one Kiwi could somehow create the same for another!).

 

 

No it doesn't, though I had Young's book in front of me, and the results at hand, but still thought Hill was 3rd not 2nd. Bruce did say it was almost a  Kiwi show, but that doesn't count in motor racing. I think I looked once to see if that ever happened, but didn't find such a result.



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Posted 27 May 2014 - 23:17

Ah - I was just about to ask if it had ever happened (a Kiwi 1-2-3, that is); I couldn't think of such an occasion and was getting too sleepy to research it further!