Posted 22 October 2000 - 10:20
I think. Second overall in 1970. Did he quit racing
after the last Can-Am at Road America in 1974 ?
Posted 22 October 2000 - 14:33
1970 had been a good year for him, resulting in second place in the CanAm championship ,but 1971 was a different kettle of fish. Although he had sponsorship from Paul Newman,he could only get a few placings and didn't win a single race. He finished fifth in that year's point standings, but still held a kind of record in that he had taken part in every single CanAm race to that time.
The following year, 1972, he crashed his F5000 car at Road Atlanta and then received burns in a garage fire towards the end of the year. I don't know if he NEVER raced again (never say never), but I can't recall his name in later major championships.
Posted 23 October 2000 - 16:53
I remember one year, it must have been '73, he had Derek Bell driving his McLaren at Mid-Ohio. I think that was a one-off deal, though. Bell was fourth, as I recall. Also a hot day. I remember him removing his helmet and balaclava on the cool-off lap, and finishing the lap with the wind blowing in his face and hair.
Posted 10 October 2005 - 13:37
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Posted 11 October 2005 - 05:23
He had or has a repair shop in Los Angles but I don't know the name of it.
Posted 11 October 2005 - 05:54
1339 S Lyon St
Santa Ana, CA 92705-4608
Phone: (714) 543-3883
Also address and phone number in Newport Beach, which must be his home
Also, pictures from a couple of years ago on this webpage:
Vince Howlett, Victoria, B.C., Canada
Posted 11 October 2005 - 05:58
Another website had this phone number for Motschenbacher Inc:
Posted 19 October 2005 - 05:32
Posted 19 October 2005 - 13:53
What did happen to his carreer?
Posted 19 October 2005 - 18:52
Posted 19 October 2005 - 19:34
He seems to have suffered from being a privateer in 1972 without a Porsche or ex-team car, and totally disappeared in 1973 but scored a third again in 1974.
Posted 19 October 2005 - 20:52
Hall ran into the back of Motschenbacher at the exit of the very high speed turn two at the Stardust. Reports later said a front suspension piece on Motschenbacher’s McLaren broke and dug into the pavement acting as a brake to bring the car to a near standstill from 150+ MPH.
Posted 20 October 2005 - 19:35
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Posted 18 February 2007 - 15:30
22 Lighthouse Ct
Napa, CA 94559
was working on a car (Vintage Racing) for Lothar. I sent him some old photos I had of Lothar last year. He is in contact with Lothar and I'm sure he will help you.
This is the shop # I have, but I'm not sure it is current: 707-996-4447
Posted 18 February 2007 - 17:08
John Collins Race shop is in Santa Ana CA (714) 540-2591
Posted 19 February 2007 - 22:21
I watched Lothar race several in Can Am events - he was one of the quicker privateers chasing after Bruce in the "Works" car!
Here's a photo from Mosport circa '65 or '66 - I wouldn't mine this machine in my yard.
Posted 19 February 2007 - 22:45
Posted 20 February 2007 - 00:00
Mine, as in dig up?
Originally posted by Ol'_Motorhead
[IMG]Here's a photo from Mosport circa '65 or '66 - I wouldn't mine this machine in my yard.
It has to be 1966 as that is a McLaren Elva Mk II, or M1B as it was also known, which was a '66 car.
Posted 20 February 2007 - 02:04
Lothar and Peyton Cramer. Peter Revson's car next to them. Team was called Dana Chevy Team. This is from Elkhart Lake in 1967. Cars are Lola T-70 3B's.
photo lent site Tom Schultz. copyright 2007 Tom Schultz
Posted 20 February 2007 - 09:01
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Posted 24 February 2007 - 02:52
Lothar in his ex-Shelby King Cobra at the 1965 USRRC at Mid Ohio. Others in the picture include Mike Hall in the Essex Wire 427 Cobra and Tom Payne in one of three 289 Cobras entered by Shelby American. There were 4 Elvas entered, not sure which one this is. Notice the tree-hanging spectators - try that nowadays!
Same event, at the end of the main straight.
I have more pictures of this car that I'll post on the "King Cobra" thread.
Posted 08 May 2008 - 01:03
Posted 08 May 2008 - 11:43
Lothar in his Indy racing period.
That is Jerry Eisert leaning in giving Lothar advice
Side view of Lothar in the Indy car.
Harrison Special crewed by Jerry Eisert.
photos :Gil Munz-
scanned for site: Ike Smith
Edited by Jerry Entin, 26 April 2011 - 03:00.
Posted 08 May 2008 - 18:50
Originally posted by Neuz
That's a good question. Surprised that he now runs a repair shop. Not sure why I am suprised but I was.
What did happen to his carreer?
I believe it's more of a restoration shop, actually. Last time I saw LM, he was showing classic pre-war Mercedes-Benz cars (540K, etc.) in Newport Beach.
I take it that the John Collins referred to above is the ex-Shelby American mechanic?
Posted 08 May 2008 - 18:58
Lothar in his CanAm McLaren signing autographs.
Frank: John Collins who was referred to in the thread above has sadly passed away from complications of pneumonia. And yes he was the ex Shelby mechanic known as Granny Collins. Lothar is well and his daughter Hedy is helping him at his shop. He does buy and also restore Mercedes cars.
Posted 12 May 2008 - 00:50
I believe that this may be 1966. The car is the Nickey sponsored McLaren M1B, and it ran in this configuration at the 1966 Riverside Can Am. For the 1967 Can Am Lothar was in the Dana Lola T-70. But he was fourth in the early 1967 USRRC in a McLaren. I need help on this (Jerry? Tam?), as I suspect that the car may not have been Nickey metallic violet in the 1967 USRRC.
Posted 12 May 2008 - 01:01
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Posted 12 May 2008 - 20:45
This was the start of Motschenbacher Racing.
Posted 13 May 2008 - 01:44
That could very well be. I know that his McLaren was violet at the 66 Can Am, but do not know the color for the April, 1967, USRRC. so I will have to go with your view.
Originally posted by Jean L
For the Nickey McLaren M1B,I think it is the Riverside USRRC race 1967 4 30.
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