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#1 ViMaMo

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 03:39

Would you like to see Schumacher replace Massa or Raikonnen at Ferrari for 2009 and continuing onto 2010?

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#2 primer

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 04:02

No poll?

#3 Direct Drive

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 04:04

No.
If Massa is healthy he's more than earned his place.
I still can't understand the why of MS return, he's nothing to prove and everything to lose.

#4 Turbo4

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 04:07

absolutely thrilled he's back.

He never should have retired when he did as he's still the cream of the crop, and as a Webber fan i'm looking forward to some duels between them in comparable cars for once. :)

#5 ViMaMo

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 04:24

No poll?


:blush: got confused with the software


#6 pacwest

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 04:40

I'm thrilled to have him back to demystify him.

End of 2006 he looked a little long in the tooth. I might be embarrassed for him in 4 weeks' time, but I doubt it.

#7 RiDE

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 04:45

Nope... huge gamble for him. I see vultures in this forums already circling.

I'd rather have BMW and Honda back. :p



#8 Turbo4

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 05:04

If people in here pick him apart if he doesn't immediately win... it will be quite disgusting.

Given where he's coming from with zero time in this car and zero time with KERS, coupled with what will likely be a fitness disadvantage comparable to Webber's earlier this year, if he's at least 'Salo versus Irvine-esque' in his speed i'll be mightily impressed.

He shouldn't get any criticism from real F1 fans. Trolls can please themselves.

#9 Demo.

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 05:13

Depends if he behaves himself or thinks its ok to carry on with his cheating like he always used to do.
AND
it would be good to see him have to compete on a level playing field for the first time in his career with the teams other driver.

Turbo he has to be atleast as fast as his team mate after all he has no excuses he spent enough years in an F1 car.
Or will you say Oh hes only 5 seconds off Kimi thats ok when we saw last weekend what a tallented new driver can do be as fast as his teammate and he had never sat in an F1 car and gone round a corner

Edited by Demo., 30 July 2009 - 05:15.


#10 Jimisgod

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 05:30

what will likely be a fitness disadvantage comparable to Webber's earlier this year


:rotfl: :rolleyes: of course in his retired days he got several kilos of metal put in his leg for fun.

#11 Ivanoff

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 05:41

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssss, I do !!!

#12 Turbo4

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 05:49

:rotfl: :rolleyes: of course in his retired days he got several kilos of metal put in his leg for fun.


dont be an idiot. :rolleyes:

I wasn't suggesting the above - I was suggesting that Schumacher's lack of race fitness will be comparable to what Mark was going thru earlier this year - and what he's no doubt still going thru in some ways - a relative lack of fitness compared to his rivals.

#13 Ferrari shambles

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 06:52

No.

Still detest him after all these years.


#14 ex Rhodie racer

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 08:44

Thrilled to see the man back. He´s not only a great driver, but also a very dignified gentleman, and an absolute credit to F1. It´s easy to pick holes in someone who´s been in the spotlight for so long, but what were the chances everything he said or did was going to please all the people all of the time?
This is a win win situation for everyone concerned. F1 wins with this breath of fresh air sweeping over it´s badly tarnished reputation of late, and the fans all win as we all have another chance to see the man behind the wheel of a F1 car again. Finally, MS wins, because he has nothing to lose. No one, other than his diehard, hate filled critics will place any importance on his one-off return to racing if he fails to live up to expectations.
I´m hoping though, that he does something spectacular, just to rub their noses in it one last time. :lol:

#15 SeanValen

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 08:55

If people in here pick him apart if he doesn't immediately win... it will be quite disgusting.

Given where he's coming from with zero time in this car and zero time with KERS, coupled with what will likely be a fitness disadvantage comparable to Webber's earlier this year, if he's at least 'Salo versus Irvine-esque' in his speed i'll be mightily impressed.

He shouldn't get any criticism from real F1 fans. Trolls can please themselves.


:up:
I agree with what your saying, but this forum at times has had true evil in it, it's like when Schumacher was around, real life ghostbusters had to work in the forums on the sly, as some demons were recreating f1 history and facts just to disect a one Michael Schumacher.

We have true specialists this decade who can turn anything against Schumacher, some were very good at it, some looked foolish. but largely it was and still is what this forum has been about, the man has been in f1 too long, even showing up at races in retirement, there's a thread on Schumacher satabotaging Kimi's car when he's around as advisor. MS never left the forum, but the return of the driver has reawakened alot of people around the world, old posters are coming back, the old arguements are coming back. One single headline yesterday changed the mere fabrics of the forum, it's going to be FIRE AND ICE until MS leaves again. No one can control this fire, no one can reason with it, it simply is. Schumacher will be put on trial by many, while many others just enjoy it for what it is. Nothing is ever simple and plain sailing with MS discussions. It's complete atter madness.

Edited by SeanValen, 30 July 2009 - 09:00.


#16 icecream_man

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 08:58

Definitely not.
A few races against Kimi will be interesting, but a proper return would put me off watching

#17 brabhamBT19

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:08

ofcourse, this is great news, will bing back great memories and a taste of times past by

note: I was never fan of MS, I always preffered Senna, Hill and Hakkinen, but I respected him as a driver, and I am able to admit that he was better than all of them, Senna included.

#18 MinT

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:13

If people in here pick him apart if he doesn't immediately win... it will be quite disgusting.

Given where he's coming from with zero time in this car and zero time with KERS, coupled with what will likely be a fitness disadvantage comparable to Webber's earlier this year, if he's at least 'Salo versus Irvine-esque' in his speed i'll be mightily impressed.

He shouldn't get any criticism from real F1 fans. Trolls can please themselves.


At least that has got all the excuses in early :wave:

#19 JPW

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:17

MS never left the forum,

LOL I was wondering about that, Michael indeed never left this forum.

There was always a thread about him, be it about his bike racing, his sometimes ueber silly clothes or somebody comparing current drivers with Schumi, he was always there.

The return of big Schumi is exactly what F1 needed this year but I hope it will only be for this year and that we see him on a bike or on the football pitch in 2010 again.

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#20 katmen

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:27

NO
his family needs him more
his son in future yes

#21 irish_sean69

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:28

So the dirty German has returned. Am i happy to see him back? No. Well i suppose we wont see any of his old cheating ways as he is not in car where he is in a postion to win the World Tiltle.

#22 kar

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:31

On the way to work this morning an Irish Network Rail conductor was waffling to his colleague. Didya har Michael Schumacher is back eh? Praise the lords!

I gave him a thumbs up :)

#23 etoipi

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:31

Of course I want to see MS back - Who wouldn't want to see a field including 4 world champions plus some very hungry and talented drivers.

So MS will be a bit rusty initially, in a car he hasn't driven, no practice in an F1 car, (so he will have something in common with Jaime Alguersuari)

I am going to sit back and enjoy the spectacle for as long as it lasts, if he is off the pace initially so be it

In the end I hope Massa makes a full recovery

PS Would MS have done this for Kimi?

Edited by etoipi, 30 July 2009 - 09:55.


#24 wewantourdarbyback

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:33

Aren't we getting a little ahead of ourselves? We haven't even seen him in an 09 car let alone thinking about him coming back for 2010.

#25 engel

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:33

Like him or not (and I didn't when he was racing) he's one of the best racing drivers that ever parked their behinds in an F1 car. So yeah, in that respect, it is great that he's back for a while. Plus he's a competitive bastard so I doubt he 'll pull a Mansell in 94, I m certain he will try to be up there, which will be interesting for a lot of the younger drivers racing today.

#26 Jetski

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:42

Yes would like to see him come back and win another championship

#27 Hablo

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:43

NO :down:

#28 BlackCat

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:47

i still think he should have been disqualified for life after 1997 and nothing gonna change that.

#29 Muz Bee

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 10:01

Yeah, if he doesn't park his car at Bus Stop at Spa during Q3. :lol:

He'll be great for the ratings and will provide some insight. Don't expect him to be really slow, and don't expect him to be mega quick straight away. His real ability was not so much raw speed but a range of factors like finding better setups and leading development to eliminate or minimise weaknesses. He may provide Ferrari and as a result Kimi with a better car by season end. Even though I hated his win at all costs attitude I am moderately excited to see how it pans out. :up:

#30 klyster

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 10:01

I'm no Schumi fan, but it's an interesting prospect.
Love him or hate him, he's a proven great, and it will be exciting to see him racing again.
Especially seeing as it was unlikely he would return to Formula One again, as a driver.

Edited by klyster, 30 July 2009 - 10:02.


#31 SB

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 10:11

No .....

His great era (fighting with D.Hill, JV, Hakkinen etc ) has gone and is completed with fine wonderful memories.
I think this chance (to drive Massa's car) should pass to the coming new young F1 / Ferrari hero ....

#32 kismet

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 10:11

Only if Massa is still injured in 2010. In my opinion it would be bad form to dump an injured driver who looks set to make a full recovery. An Alonso/Schumacher lineup would be vaguely interesting though I have to wonder if the reality could ever live up to the hype.

#33 scoobie

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 10:16

I was never a fan of MS, ever. But have warmed to him since he retired from racing.

It will be interesting to see him driving again, and how he gets on with the 09 car after not having driven an F1 car for some time...

I like it when F1 has changes and seeing how the teams and fans react to situations...keeps it interesting!

#34 ViMaMo

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 10:16

Wondering how MS's return will affect TV ratings. Id like to see him in atleast 3 races this season, he gets to know the car and lets see what he can do.

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 10:18

:up:
I agree with what your saying, but this forum at times has had true evil in it, it's like when Schumacher was around, real life ghostbusters had to work in the forums on the sly, as some demons were recreating f1 history and facts just to disect a one Michael Schumacher.

We have true specialists this decade who can turn anything against Schumacher, some were very good at it, some looked foolish. but largely it was and still is what this forum has been about, the man has been in f1 too long, even showing up at races in retirement, there's a thread on Schumacher satabotaging Kimi's car when he's around as advisor. MS never left the forum, but the return of the driver has reawakened alot of people around the world, old posters are coming back, the old arguements are coming back. One single headline yesterday changed the mere fabrics of the forum, it's going to be FIRE AND ICE until MS leaves again. No one can control this fire, no one can reason with it, it simply is. Schumacher will be put on trial by many, while many others just enjoy it for what it is. Nothing is ever simple and plain sailing with MS discussions. It's complete atter madness.

Agree with u agreeing :)
I will be hard at work using the ignore button for the next few weeks.......some people and their comments of utter hatred .....it''ll be a rough ride on this forum for sure.

#36 irish_sean69

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 11:02

So the dirty German has returned. Am i happy to see him back? No. Well i suppose we wont see any of his old cheating ways as he is not in car where he is in a postion to win the World Tiltle.


Funny Very Funny you tool

#37 salamin

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 11:16

depends on his form, but i think he still got it, so it would be a waste not to

#38 Hacklerf

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 11:19

100%

No one wanted him to stop, apart from himself so..

Unbelievable, if he was to stick around

Forza Michael

#39 nada12

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 12:15

Ive been dreaming of a Schumacher/Räikkönen combo at Ferrari, now that that comes true I can move on to dreaming of a Schumacher/Räikkönen/Alonso three-car team in 2010 ;)

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#40 holiday

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 12:50

Would you like to see Schumacher replace Massa or Raikonnen at Ferrari for 2009 and continuing onto 2010?


No. Mansell was great at 39, but had become bad by 41. The reason was: age. Competition in F1 is too close nowadays, even if you lose only one tenth per year, which has very little impact in most other forms of motorsport, in F1 it is the difference between being at the front or in the midfield.

#41 klover

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 12:56

No. Mansell was great at 39, but had become bad by 41. The reason was: age. Competition in F1 is too close nowadays, even if you lose only one tenth per year, which has very little impact in most other forms of motorsport, in F1 it is the difference between being at the front or in the midfield.

I am not sure age was the problem, didn't he have a bad crash in America which resulted in back problems? I remember he was still quick and grabbed pole in the very first race he drove for Williams after Senna died, though he was not match for Damon in the race. His McLaren stint ended in disaster though.

Regarding MS, I wouldn't mind seeing him back in Ferrari or F1 as long as he is competitive. Watching him and Hamilton trying to outchop each other is going to be fun!

Edited by klover, 30 July 2009 - 12:57.


#42 Frans

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 13:17

Simply NO.

The fair play is gone again now ....

#43 Jimisgod

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 14:33

Yes but only if they give him equal equipment with Kimi. I want him to prove once and for all those years were driver, not car and heavy favoritism.

11 WDCs on the grid in the hands of 4 drivers. Can't wait. Imagine if it's changeable at Spa! Webber/Vettel/Schumi/Hamilton/Alonso/Kimi :clap: :clap: :clap:

#44 Frans

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 14:45

Yes but only if they give him equal equipment with Kimi.


:rolleyes: Schumacher get's all the 2.0 material while Kimi will have to do with all the 1.0 stuff ....

#45 Pikku Pakkanen

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 14:49

Can't really say if I want him back or not.

Nigel Mansell is best remembered of his arse that was too big to fit a McLaren when he tried to come back.

Interesting to see how Schumacher will be remebered after this.



#46 femi

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 14:59

I don't care one way or another if he come back racing - for ferrari - as long as he doesn't park his car in a chicane in the last minute of qualifying among other things.

Edited by femi, 30 July 2009 - 15:00.


#47 pacwest

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 18:42

I think this actual web news sums it up. Michael is bad for F1:

http://bleacherrepor...-watching-again

To the great unwashed of the sport he's some messiah returning. I for one welcomed his retirement and welcome him getting SCHOOLED in 2009.

#48 nudger1964

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 18:52

i never cheered him on, but sure, its just fine to have him back.
im sure all sorts of people will draw all sorts on conclusions either way depending on what happens, but truth is the car performance is so variable this season that it will all mean very little. i dont see why he wont be reasonably competative ...F1 dosnt need him back, it has a very strong driver line up as it is, but its nice to have him back all the same

#49 Muz Bee

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 20:07

i never cheered him on, but sure, its just fine to have him back.
im sure all sorts of people will draw all sorts on conclusions either way depending on what happens, but truth is the car performance is so variable this season that it will all mean very little. i dont see why he wont be reasonably competative ...F1 dosnt need him back, it has a very strong driver line up as it is, but its nice to have him back all the same

We'll get to see how strong the current lineup is.


#50 Jardins

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 20:12

No I don't want him back! I can understand the fascination and excitement at his return and I can put up with it short term but I don't want him back long term.