Do you want MS back?
#1
Posted 30 July 2009 - 03:39
#3
Posted 30 July 2009 - 04:04
If Massa is healthy he's more than earned his place.
I still can't understand the why of MS return, he's nothing to prove and everything to lose.
#4
Posted 30 July 2009 - 04:07
He never should have retired when he did as he's still the cream of the crop, and as a Webber fan i'm looking forward to some duels between them in comparable cars for once.
#5
Posted 30 July 2009 - 04:24
No poll?
got confused with the software
#6
Posted 30 July 2009 - 04:40
End of 2006 he looked a little long in the tooth. I might be embarrassed for him in 4 weeks' time, but I doubt it.
#7
Posted 30 July 2009 - 04:45
I'd rather have BMW and Honda back.
#8
Posted 30 July 2009 - 05:04
Given where he's coming from with zero time in this car and zero time with KERS, coupled with what will likely be a fitness disadvantage comparable to Webber's earlier this year, if he's at least 'Salo versus Irvine-esque' in his speed i'll be mightily impressed.
He shouldn't get any criticism from real F1 fans. Trolls can please themselves.
#9
Posted 30 July 2009 - 05:13
AND
it would be good to see him have to compete on a level playing field for the first time in his career with the teams other driver.
Turbo he has to be atleast as fast as his team mate after all he has no excuses he spent enough years in an F1 car.
Or will you say Oh hes only 5 seconds off Kimi thats ok when we saw last weekend what a tallented new driver can do be as fast as his teammate and he had never sat in an F1 car and gone round a corner
Edited by Demo., 30 July 2009 - 05:15.
#10
Posted 30 July 2009 - 05:30
what will likely be a fitness disadvantage comparable to Webber's earlier this year
of course in his retired days he got several kilos of metal put in his leg for fun.
#11
Posted 30 July 2009 - 05:41
#12
Posted 30 July 2009 - 05:49
of course in his retired days he got several kilos of metal put in his leg for fun.
dont be an idiot.
I wasn't suggesting the above - I was suggesting that Schumacher's lack of race fitness will be comparable to what Mark was going thru earlier this year - and what he's no doubt still going thru in some ways - a relative lack of fitness compared to his rivals.
#13
Posted 30 July 2009 - 06:52
Still detest him after all these years.
#14
Posted 30 July 2009 - 08:44
This is a win win situation for everyone concerned. F1 wins with this breath of fresh air sweeping over it´s badly tarnished reputation of late, and the fans all win as we all have another chance to see the man behind the wheel of a F1 car again. Finally, MS wins, because he has nothing to lose. No one, other than his diehard, hate filled critics will place any importance on his one-off return to racing if he fails to live up to expectations.
I´m hoping though, that he does something spectacular, just to rub their noses in it one last time.
#15
Posted 30 July 2009 - 08:55
If people in here pick him apart if he doesn't immediately win... it will be quite disgusting.
Given where he's coming from with zero time in this car and zero time with KERS, coupled with what will likely be a fitness disadvantage comparable to Webber's earlier this year, if he's at least 'Salo versus Irvine-esque' in his speed i'll be mightily impressed.
He shouldn't get any criticism from real F1 fans. Trolls can please themselves.
I agree with what your saying, but this forum at times has had true evil in it, it's like when Schumacher was around, real life ghostbusters had to work in the forums on the sly, as some demons were recreating f1 history and facts just to disect a one Michael Schumacher.
We have true specialists this decade who can turn anything against Schumacher, some were very good at it, some looked foolish. but largely it was and still is what this forum has been about, the man has been in f1 too long, even showing up at races in retirement, there's a thread on Schumacher satabotaging Kimi's car when he's around as advisor. MS never left the forum, but the return of the driver has reawakened alot of people around the world, old posters are coming back, the old arguements are coming back. One single headline yesterday changed the mere fabrics of the forum, it's going to be FIRE AND ICE until MS leaves again. No one can control this fire, no one can reason with it, it simply is. Schumacher will be put on trial by many, while many others just enjoy it for what it is. Nothing is ever simple and plain sailing with MS discussions. It's complete atter madness.
Edited by SeanValen, 30 July 2009 - 09:00.
#16
Posted 30 July 2009 - 08:58
A few races against Kimi will be interesting, but a proper return would put me off watching
#17
Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:08
note: I was never fan of MS, I always preffered Senna, Hill and Hakkinen, but I respected him as a driver, and I am able to admit that he was better than all of them, Senna included.
#18
Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:13
If people in here pick him apart if he doesn't immediately win... it will be quite disgusting.
Given where he's coming from with zero time in this car and zero time with KERS, coupled with what will likely be a fitness disadvantage comparable to Webber's earlier this year, if he's at least 'Salo versus Irvine-esque' in his speed i'll be mightily impressed.
He shouldn't get any criticism from real F1 fans. Trolls can please themselves.
At least that has got all the excuses in early
#19
Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:17
LOL I was wondering about that, Michael indeed never left this forum.MS never left the forum,
There was always a thread about him, be it about his bike racing, his sometimes ueber silly clothes or somebody comparing current drivers with Schumi, he was always there.
The return of big Schumi is exactly what F1 needed this year but I hope it will only be for this year and that we see him on a bike or on the football pitch in 2010 again.
#21
Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:28
#22
Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:31
I gave him a thumbs up
#23
Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:31
So MS will be a bit rusty initially, in a car he hasn't driven, no practice in an F1 car, (so he will have something in common with Jaime Alguersuari)
I am going to sit back and enjoy the spectacle for as long as it lasts, if he is off the pace initially so be it
In the end I hope Massa makes a full recovery
PS Would MS have done this for Kimi?
Edited by etoipi, 30 July 2009 - 09:55.
#24
Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:33
#25
Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:33
#26
Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:42
#27
Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:43
#28
Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:47
#29
Posted 30 July 2009 - 10:01
He'll be great for the ratings and will provide some insight. Don't expect him to be really slow, and don't expect him to be mega quick straight away. His real ability was not so much raw speed but a range of factors like finding better setups and leading development to eliminate or minimise weaknesses. He may provide Ferrari and as a result Kimi with a better car by season end. Even though I hated his win at all costs attitude I am moderately excited to see how it pans out.
#30
Posted 30 July 2009 - 10:01
Love him or hate him, he's a proven great, and it will be exciting to see him racing again.
Especially seeing as it was unlikely he would return to Formula One again, as a driver.
Edited by klyster, 30 July 2009 - 10:02.
#31
Posted 30 July 2009 - 10:11
His great era (fighting with D.Hill, JV, Hakkinen etc ) has gone and is completed with fine wonderful memories.
I think this chance (to drive Massa's car) should pass to the coming new young F1 / Ferrari hero ....
#32
Posted 30 July 2009 - 10:11
#33
Posted 30 July 2009 - 10:16
It will be interesting to see him driving again, and how he gets on with the 09 car after not having driven an F1 car for some time...
I like it when F1 has changes and seeing how the teams and fans react to situations...keeps it interesting!
#34
Posted 30 July 2009 - 10:16
#35
Posted 30 July 2009 - 10:18
Agree with u agreeing
I agree with what your saying, but this forum at times has had true evil in it, it's like when Schumacher was around, real life ghostbusters had to work in the forums on the sly, as some demons were recreating f1 history and facts just to disect a one Michael Schumacher.
We have true specialists this decade who can turn anything against Schumacher, some were very good at it, some looked foolish. but largely it was and still is what this forum has been about, the man has been in f1 too long, even showing up at races in retirement, there's a thread on Schumacher satabotaging Kimi's car when he's around as advisor. MS never left the forum, but the return of the driver has reawakened alot of people around the world, old posters are coming back, the old arguements are coming back. One single headline yesterday changed the mere fabrics of the forum, it's going to be FIRE AND ICE until MS leaves again. No one can control this fire, no one can reason with it, it simply is. Schumacher will be put on trial by many, while many others just enjoy it for what it is. Nothing is ever simple and plain sailing with MS discussions. It's complete atter madness.
I will be hard at work using the ignore button for the next few weeks.......some people and their comments of utter hatred .....it''ll be a rough ride on this forum for sure.
#36
Posted 30 July 2009 - 11:02
So the dirty German has returned. Am i happy to see him back? No. Well i suppose we wont see any of his old cheating ways as he is not in car where he is in a postion to win the World Tiltle.
Funny Very Funny you tool
#37
Posted 30 July 2009 - 11:16
#38
Posted 30 July 2009 - 11:19
No one wanted him to stop, apart from himself so..
Unbelievable, if he was to stick around
Forza Michael
#39
Posted 30 July 2009 - 12:15
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#40
Posted 30 July 2009 - 12:50
Would you like to see Schumacher replace Massa or Raikonnen at Ferrari for 2009 and continuing onto 2010?
No. Mansell was great at 39, but had become bad by 41. The reason was: age. Competition in F1 is too close nowadays, even if you lose only one tenth per year, which has very little impact in most other forms of motorsport, in F1 it is the difference between being at the front or in the midfield.
#41
Posted 30 July 2009 - 12:56
I am not sure age was the problem, didn't he have a bad crash in America which resulted in back problems? I remember he was still quick and grabbed pole in the very first race he drove for Williams after Senna died, though he was not match for Damon in the race. His McLaren stint ended in disaster though.No. Mansell was great at 39, but had become bad by 41. The reason was: age. Competition in F1 is too close nowadays, even if you lose only one tenth per year, which has very little impact in most other forms of motorsport, in F1 it is the difference between being at the front or in the midfield.
Regarding MS, I wouldn't mind seeing him back in Ferrari or F1 as long as he is competitive. Watching him and Hamilton trying to outchop each other is going to be fun!
Edited by klover, 30 July 2009 - 12:57.
#42
Posted 30 July 2009 - 13:17
The fair play is gone again now ....
#43
Posted 30 July 2009 - 14:33
11 WDCs on the grid in the hands of 4 drivers. Can't wait. Imagine if it's changeable at Spa! Webber/Vettel/Schumi/Hamilton/Alonso/Kimi
#44
Posted 30 July 2009 - 14:45
Yes but only if they give him equal equipment with Kimi.
Schumacher get's all the 2.0 material while Kimi will have to do with all the 1.0 stuff ....
#45
Posted 30 July 2009 - 14:49
Nigel Mansell is best remembered of his arse that was too big to fit a McLaren when he tried to come back.
Interesting to see how Schumacher will be remebered after this.
#46
Posted 30 July 2009 - 14:59
Edited by femi, 30 July 2009 - 15:00.
#47
Posted 30 July 2009 - 18:42
http://bleacherrepor...-watching-again
To the great unwashed of the sport he's some messiah returning. I for one welcomed his retirement and welcome him getting SCHOOLED in 2009.
#48
Posted 30 July 2009 - 18:52
im sure all sorts of people will draw all sorts on conclusions either way depending on what happens, but truth is the car performance is so variable this season that it will all mean very little. i dont see why he wont be reasonably competative ...F1 dosnt need him back, it has a very strong driver line up as it is, but its nice to have him back all the same
#49
Posted 30 July 2009 - 20:07
We'll get to see how strong the current lineup is.i never cheered him on, but sure, its just fine to have him back.
im sure all sorts of people will draw all sorts on conclusions either way depending on what happens, but truth is the car performance is so variable this season that it will all mean very little. i dont see why he wont be reasonably competative ...F1 dosnt need him back, it has a very strong driver line up as it is, but its nice to have him back all the same
#50
Posted 30 July 2009 - 20:12