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Can Michael Schumacher win a GP before the end of the season?


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Poll: Schumacher return (214 member(s) have cast votes)

Can he win?

  1. Yes, he can win at least one GP (127 votes [59.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 59.35%

  2. No, it's highly unlikely (66 votes [30.84%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.84%

  3. No idea (21 votes [9.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.81%

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#1 Seb S.

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 16:19

Assumption: Schumacher is fit enough to race in Valencia and to end the season in the sit of Felipe Massa.

So, presuming this, and regarding the recent shape of the F60 (Kimi was second in Hungaroring), what do you think? Can he do it?

Edited by Seb S., 31 July 2009 - 16:29.


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#2 kar

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 16:20

Assumption: Schumacher is fit enough to race in Valencia and to end the season in the sit of Felipe Massa.

So, presuming this, and regarding the recent shape of the F60 (Kimi was second in Hungaroring), what do you think? Can he do it?


It's highly unlikely. But not impossible.

#3 Dragonfly

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 16:24

Again, wrongly formulated answers, compared to topic title.

"Anything can happen in Formula 1 and it usually does." © Murray Walker

#4 potmotr

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 16:25

How many more Schumacher threads do we need?!?

#5 Seb S.

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 16:25

Again, wrongly formulated answers, compared to topic title.

"Anything can happen in Formula 1 and it usually does." © Murray Walker


You right, I edited the second answer according your comment. :)

#6 Spa95

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 16:26

No.

But then I saw the "No idea" option and ticked that - More appropriate maybe

#7 Cenotaph

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 16:27

F1 has been crazy this year, so why not? I think he will win it.

#8 BMW_F1

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 16:27

The title of the thread say "..can Michael win.. "

but the poll option says "MS will win a race before.. "

Those are two totally different statements

Sure he can win, .. Will he win.? I don't know..

Edited by BMW_F1, 31 July 2009 - 16:28.


#9 Seb S.

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 16:28

Under the rain in Spa-Francorchamps :love:

#10 Jodum5

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 16:30

Of course he can. But will he? Who knows...

#11 Henrik B

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 16:42

In those circuits that suit the F60, if he gets lucky, sure he can. Kimi's been on the podium twice and Massa once. Ferrari will do everything they can to make it happen, aswell.

#12 klover

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 16:54

Nelson Piquet can win (theoretically, if he is still at Renault), why not Michael or any of the other 20 drivers.

#13 Seb S.

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 16:59

Nelson Piquet can win (theoretically, if he is still at Renault), why not Michael or any of the other 20 drivers.


All is about probability. Piquet's probability to race the next GP is weak, and to win will be almost next to 0.
Probability for MS to race next GP is high, and how do you rate the possibility to win, it's the question of the poll.


#14 Scudetto

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 17:06

Doubtful he'll manage to win a race...but it's going to be entertaining as hell to watch him try.

#15 z2z

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 17:15

Very unlikely!!!

#16 klover

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 17:19

All is about probability. Piquet's probability to race the next GP is weak, and to win will be almost next to 0.
Probability for MS to race next GP is high, and how do you rate the possibility to win, it's the question of the poll.

Still, until Piquet gets sacked, the probability of him winning a race this year is a number > 0. If Piquet has some non-zero probability of winning a race, so does MS. Yes, he can.

#17 Kooper

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 17:25

I hope not.

#18 JarnoA

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 17:29

Nelson Piquet can win (theoretically, if he is still at Renault), why not Michael or any of the other 20 drivers.


All it would have taken was for Lewis to mess up the overtake on Nelson at Germany, (who was leading the race), and he would have won that race.

EDIT: Just for clarification, obviously I am talking about Germany 2008. :)

Edited by JarnoA, 31 July 2009 - 17:36.


#19 BRK

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 17:47

Mark Webber thinks so...

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#20 cheapracer

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 18:04

. Ferrari will do everything they can to make it happen, aswell.


Wow, really?? You don't think they will just say "oh screw it all, Schueys here, lets all go have a beer and talk about good old times"?

..................

He certainly can, he obviously has the mental capacity and experience to adapt quickly and the Ferrari had a good run at Silverstone of course - as Murray says....



#21 BuzzingHornet

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 18:06

I think he will win 2 :) He's a freak in a racing car, and he's still young enough to do it.

#22 Atreiu

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 18:32

Sure he can.

#23 P123

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 18:35

It all depends on the car Ferrari can give him. Valencia may be his best chance. Unless it rains I don't think anything will touch the Red Bulls in Spa, and even if it does Vettel and Hamilton are pretty nifty in wet conditions too. Saying that- Schumacher, Vettel and Hamilton against each other in competitive cars at a wet Spa.......?

#24 Buckethead

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 18:42

No idea.

BUT

I hope he wins either Monza or his last race. He deserves to leave F1 as a winner <3

#25 Zmeej

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 18:44

To paraphrase Michael Corleone:

If anything is certain, if history has taught us anything, it's that he can win anywhere with anything.

Do I want him to?

No. I hope he drives his heart out and comes in second, third, and fourth, while Kimi comes in first, second, and third. :cool:

It would also be amazing if Hamilton and Schumi took each other out, got out of their cars and screamed bloody murder at each other until the marshalls arrived. :p

Edited by Zmeej, 31 July 2009 - 18:48.


#26 Kenaltgr

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 18:50

If he gets the same treatment as Kimi, there is more chance of pigs flying.

#27 Brawn BGP 001

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 18:53

No idea.

#28 JensonF1

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 18:55

If Schumacher isn't fast enough in testing, in the 2009 car he'll put his hands up and say... look guys. I can't cut it. Over to you Gene.

#29 klover

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 18:59

All it would have taken was for Lewis to mess up the overtake on Nelson at Germany, (who was leading the race), and he would have won that race.

EDIT: Just for clarification, obviously I am talking about Germany 2008. :)

Yes, Piquet's 2nd place last year prompted me to pick him as an example, unlikely winner as he is, just to illustrate anyone can do it. That obviously is different from will do it.

#30 Demo.

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 19:00

If he is as good as he used to be never say never but also he needs the car to be able to perform far better than it has done on tracks with fast corners.
But then if anyone is going to be able to do it he would be one of two drivers i would say would be able to push the car to its limits and beyond.

#31 Kaiser

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 19:03

A race? Hell, had he joined a few weeks sooner he could win the title!! :)

#32 ademm

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 19:03

It would be really hard. Not only he didnt drive for 3 years, he didnt drive non tc car for 8? years, slicks for more years.
It is highly unlikely he would win a race.

#33 FlatOverCrest

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 19:06

If he gets the same treatment as Kimi, there is more chance of pigs flying.


Well in that case I'll get my raincoat...bird poop is onething.....but Pigcrap!..... that wont rub off with a tissue....

#34 tweiss

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 19:09

IMO... unlikely...

#35 Yellowmc

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 22:13

Unlikely given the car Ferrari have. The best opportunity would be at Valencia but as that's his first race, Kimi will do better, it's expected.

#36 JarnoA

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 22:40

Well in that case I'll get my raincoat...bird poop is onething.....but Pigcrap!..... that wont rub off with a tissue....


Not to mention the fact that Swine Flu is the current baddy, with bird flu a distant history.

#37 Lukey21

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 00:21


He's 40 years old, he doesn't know the feel of the car at all, he hasn't driven competitively for years, a lot of the back room he worked closely with when he was actually driving have moved on (so his assistance in development is likely to be slow) and the car isn't very competitive in normal circumstances.

So I think if he gets the rest of the season he may eventually give Kimi some competition but considering the car isn't great and Massa and Raikkonen haven't looked likely to produce a win between them so far it seems highly unlikely that he could deliver a win either.

Having said all that I will not be missing valencia testing for anything :)



#38 icecream_man

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 00:27

I hope not.


Same here

It would also be amazing if Hamilton and Schumi took each other out, got out of their cars and screamed bloody murder at each other until the marshalls arrived. :p


Lol yeah that would be funny

Edited by icecream_man, 01 August 2009 - 00:30.


#39 TinyJim

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 00:31

He's 40 years old, he doesn't know the feel of the car at all, he hasn't driven competitively for years, a lot of the back room he worked closely with when he was actually driving have moved on (so his assistance in development is likely to be slow) and the car isn't very competitive in normal circumstances.

So I think if he gets the rest of the season he may eventually give Kimi some competition but considering the car isn't great and Massa and Raikkonen haven't looked likely to produce a win between them so far it seems highly unlikely that he could deliver a win either.

Having said all that I will not be missing valencia testing for anything :)


McLaren MP4-24 January 2009 - a ddaawwggg
McLaren MP4-24 July 2009 - HHHEEEELLLOOOOO

Anything is possible in the hands of great drivers. Schumi is one of them. He can win in that Ferrari fosho :)

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#40 Yellowmc

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 00:32

McLaren MP4-24 January 2009 - a ddaawwggg
McLaren MP4-24 July 2009 - HHHEEEELLLOOOOO

Anything is possible in the hands of great drivers. Schumi is one of them. He can win in that Ferrari fosho :)


McLaren continued to develop the car and found a breakthrough.

Ferrari are not bringing any more major changes to the car and even then, have had nowhere near as many changes as McLaren.

#41 Turbo4

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 00:44

How many more Schumacher threads do we need?!?


apparently as may as the Ferrari fanboys can generate.

i've heard whispers they're developing an auto-thread generate bot. :rolleyes:


#42 Conk

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 03:14

He will win I feel it in my bones

#43 Ducks McTeeth

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 04:17

Sure, why not, the current drivers are candy asses and Schumi has a mean streak that has servied him well ;)

#44 Japan Time

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 06:28


If he wins 1 race, he will have as many victories as Senna & Prost together !!! :eek:

#45 Sakae

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 08:11

Assumption: Schumacher is fit enough to race in Valencia and to end the season in the sit of Felipe Massa.

So, presuming this, and regarding the recent shape of the F60 (Kimi was second in Hungaroring), what do you think? Can he do it?

We have no evidence that Ferrari will be fast on fast tracks.

#46 Captain Tightpants

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 09:22

I think he could take one victory, probably in Belgium or Italy. I expect Massa will have returned by Singapore.

#47 Seb S.

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 15:41

If he wins, I will drink french champagne (a second bottle because I bought one when autosport announced michael was back in F1) :o

#48 Niro

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 16:54

He will win with ease because of simply being a superior driver compared to the rest of the field. Anything else would be a massive dissapointment, but honestly, that's not even an option. I just hope that the team sees the importance of him getting the latest development parts and better service etc than Raikkonnen. After all, he is a seven times world champion. Go go go Schumi and make the sport proud again by your supremacy! :clap:

P.S. I hope he gets a green light for having a special test with this years car. You can't apply the test ban in this occasion, I think, because of what happened to Felipe. Everyone should honor this very serious and unfortunate situation.

#49 stevewf1

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 16:59

I think he will win. He will "resurrect" Ferrari once again...


#50 JarnoA

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 17:45

If he wins, I will drink french champagne (a second bottle because I bought one when autosport announced michael was back in F1) :o


There is no such thing as non French champagne.